<p>Imagine you are in your BED and just don't want to get out. You might feel a little fear, depression or shame. You want to pull up the covers and stay exactly where you are, but it's time to flip off the covers, jump in your canoe and start paddling with your OAR and go from playing the role of a victim to becoming the victor.</p> <p>I'm joined by my dear friend Marty Stanley on this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast to discuss her "Get Out of B.E.D." model. A simple model you can remember and use to get you out of blame, excuses, denial / drama and instead take ownership, accountability, and responsibility for you actions. Get out a pen and paper so you can draw the model and we talk through each part.</p> <p>This simple model has helped me for years and I am so excited to share Marty and her model with each of you.</p> <p>To get a copy of the Get Out of B.E.D. model and connect with Marty, visit her website: <a href='http://alteringoutcomes.com/'>http://alteringoutcomes.com/</a> email her at: martystanley@alteringoutcomes.com, or connect with her on LinkedIn: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/martystanley/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/martystanley/</a></p>

<p>As the world changes, we have to find new ways of doing things ... and this is definitely true of #internalaudit that has been operating relatively unchanged using a traditional approach for decades. What will our relationship with the board, management, and the #chiefauditexecutive be like in this new brave world?</p> <p>I'm joined by Mike Smith to discuss finding new ways to thrive in this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast. We discuss this as well as how to be your whole self at work.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>Mike Smith is the U.S. Intelligent Automation and Solution Lead for Internal Audit at KPMG.</p> <p> </p>

<p>For the times, they are a changing in the internal audit profession.</p> <p>You can choose to stick your head in the ground and ignore what's going on, but you may end up like some CAEs who just got let go from their positions for sticking with a traditional internal audit mindset.</p> <p>In this week's podcast I share why Traditional Internal Audit is dying. We've been seeing this for years, but I share with you some recent events and evidence that prove again that this is the trend we are seeing.</p> <p>If you are still spending most of our time auditing lower level process controls and focusing on historical events and internal controls, you are probably stuck in the traditional rut and need to start working your way out by transitioning to a true risk-based internal audit methodology.</p> <p>Value-based auditing, objective-based auditing vs. risk-based internal auditing I also discuss in this episode.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>#jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast #internalaudit</p>

<p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I speak with Joe Oringel about some of the challenges #internalaudit is facing when it comes to #dataanalytics. It turns out one reason people struggle is not understanding the seven body of knowledge areas we should be focusing on and determining where you want to be.</p> <p>We discuss personnel issues (e.g. do you hire a data scientist and teach them how to audit, or train internal auditors how to be a data scientist) and how to plan out your multi-year path on incorporating more data analytics into your audit activities.</p> <p>If you are working to improve data analytics in your internal audit department, you need to listen to this episode.</p> <p>Joe Oringel is the Managing Director of Visual Risk IQ. Learn more at: <a href='http://visualriskiq.squarespace.com/'>http://visualriskiq.squarespace.com/</a></p> <p>To get a copy of the data analytics maturity model discussed during the episode, send an e-mail to info@visualriskiq.com</p>

<p>In order to really add value to your organization, internal audit has to move to the strategic level. Too often we spend our time in the details and weeds and then wonder why executives are not interested in what we have to say. If you are being ignored, you are probably not talking and acting at the strategic level. Unless we focus on what is relevant to executives and the board, we risk being viewed as as not adding value and even worse irrelevant.</p> <p>Jason Mefford is joined by Norman Marks, a retired Chief Audit Executive, Chief Risk Officer and thought leader to discuss what internal audit needs to do to move up to the strategic level and get a seat at the big kids' table.</p>

<p>As organizations outsource more and more of their processes, the #risk associated with managing those vendor relationships goes up. Organizations may think they are removing the risk by #outsourcing, but they are only sharing or transferring a portion of the risk. Just ask the countless organizations that found themselves holding the bag on a multi-million dollar fine or penalty when their vendor wasn't compliant.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I speak with Rick Roybal about the importance of having mentors in your career and risk around third-party, vendor risk management.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a>   Registration for the Fall 2020 Oil & Gas Vendor Roundtable mentioned during the episode is now open. When you are ready, visit <a href='https://www.vendoraudit.org/fall2020ogvr'>https://www.vendoraudit.org/fall2020ogvr</a> to see the speaker lineup (and you will see Jason's smiling face).</p> <p>Just a few details for you: - If you work for an operator, there is no cost to you.  - There are a limited number of seats available. - Dates: October 28-29.  - CPEs offered</p> <p>Register for the Oil & Gas Vendor Roundtable at: <a href='https://www.vendoraudit.org/fall2020ogvr'>https://www.vendoraudit.org/fall2020ogvr</a></p> <p>Make sure to check also out The Tour Report podcast with Rick (especially if you are in the oil and gas sector) at: <a href='https://www.vendoraudit.org/tourreport'>https://www.vendoraudit.org/tourreport</a></p>

<p>Internal audit has established some great traditions over the years. As Tevye, the character from Fiddler on the Roof said: "Traditions, traditions. Without our traditions our lives would be as shaky as... as a fiddler on the roof!" Later; however, Tevye realizes, "our old ways were once new, weren't they?" We have to be willing to change with the times and create new traditions that provide more value to our organizations than the old ones. </p> <p>Jason Mefford is joined by Dan Clark, for a discussion on establishing your own personal brand, tips for becoming a better auditor, and making internal audit a career. You'll also learn how to become a trusted advisor and provide insight and foresight.</p> <p>Dan Clark is the GOAT of Internal Audit (you'll have to listen to learn what that means) and CAE of Washington Trust Bank. In a career that spans more than 30 years, Dan has accumulated a lot of wisdom that he shares in his book: Dare to Be Different - An Auditor's Personal Guide To Excellence. Currently, he is working on new book: The Tao of Internal Audit.</p>

<p>In this week's #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I'm going to let you in on a little secret. Many of you are playing the game of your career without much help. The problem is, others in your organization are getting help, which means you are playing at a big disadvantage.</p> <p>I'm not talking about a lack of resources or struggling to get budget and support. It's about getting yourself the training, coaching, and support you need to play varsity-level sport ... like your peers. It's about having the right balance (e.g. American football: offense, defense, passing, running) to get you performing at an elite status.</p> <p>Take a listen and see some of the areas where getting a little extra help, will go along way in helping you play the game of your career and life as a champion.</p> <p>If you are a CAE and really serious about elevating the status of internal audit in your organization, improving your executive presence, and getting best practices and thought leadership from like-minded CAEs, the CAE Forum is for you.</p> <p>Submit your application to join the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) Forum. We are accepting new member applications. <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p> Jamming with Jason, the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, #riskmanagement, and #compliance.</p>

<p>#Independence is a term may in #internalaudit like to push the boundaries on, but when we do we can come off as arrogant or self-righteous to others in the organization. In this week's #jammingwithjason #internalaudit podcast I discuss the difference between independence and objectivity, why objectivity is more important than independence, and you are not really as independent as you may think.</p> <p>As with all episodes, you will also walk away with some practical tips you can start using today.</p> <p>This week's episode is brought to you by the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) Forum. </p> <p>If you are a CAE that wants to join a community of like-minded CAEs where you can have frank discussions about the challenges and opportunities of being a Chief Audit Executive (CAE), while getting practical advice to increase your executive presence, influence and value as a trusted advisor to your organization, check out what they have to offer and book your no-obligation call to see if it's right for you: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>Did you also know the CAE Forum comes with a $100,000 guarantee, so its a no-risk investment in you and your team to elevate the status of internal audit in your organization.</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>Internal audit reports have been written the same for decades, and honestly are usually very boring and don't meet our organization's needs. In this episode I talk with Tracie Marquart about action oriented recommendations, improving report writing to consider the end of the value chain, seeing the big picture, linking our work to assurance over key objectives, and how to make our reporting more collaborative.</p> <p> </p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>Tracie Marquardt is Europes leading audit communication consultant, and I am so honored to have her on #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast.</p> <p> </p> <p>Learn more about Tracie at https://www.traciemarquardt.com/ and https://qacommunication.com/ or email her at: <a href='mailto:tracie@qacommunication.com'>tracie@qacommunication.com</a></p> <p> #internalaudit</p>

<p>Moving to an agile internal audit approach is a big shift in mindset. It is not just performing audits in a more nimble or lean way. It is about using agile methodologies to transform the whole audit process. This method produces a more collaborative approach with the audit client, a more self-managed team mentality, and scheduling the audits in time box work cycles (sprints). This fundamentally changes how we plan, perform, staff and report on audits.</p> <p> </p> <p>Jason Mefford is joined by Rick Wright, CAE of YRC Worldwide to discuss the big picture view of agile auditing, how to transform your audit team into an agile methodology team, and discusses Rick's upcoming book on Agile Auditing that will be published summer of 2019, which includes a practical approach and case studies on how to move from traditional auditing to agile auditing.</p>

<p>In this week's #jammingwithjason episode I speak with Sohail Saleem about lessons he learned from being a CAE. We discuss various topics including: investing time and money into your career development (and yes that even means out of your own pocket), having a vision, determining what you need to get to the next level, seeing the big picture, developing your soft-skills, and thinking outside of the box.</p> <p> </p> <p>Take a listen to the episode to learn Sohail's career path and advise on becoming a CAE.</p> <p> </p> <p>So much wisdom from Sohail in this episode.</p> <p> </p> <p>Sohail Saleem is the Executive Director of Internal Audit (CAE) at Mount Royal University Calgary, Alberta, Canada.</p> <p> #internalaudit #chiefauditexecutive #internalauditpodcast</p>

<p>Many professionals get caught in a CPE mindset when it comes to professional development. A CPE mindset will not get you promotions or new positions. In the knowledge revolution, we have to become lifelong learners - those concerned with learning and growing each day, week, and month - not just completing hours of random CPE each year. Find out how to switch mindsets, increase your likelihood of having your training requests approved, and some questions you can ask yourself to be proactive with your learning opportunities.</p>

<p>In this special episode of #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I talk with Trent Russell the host of "The Audit Podcast" about the profession of internal auditing and some "soap box" issues we both feel strongly about to help improve internal audit in organizations. It's a dual interview style, so you get to hear questions and answers from both of us. Double bonus :)</p> <p> </p> <p>If you haven't already subscribed to The Audit Podcast, here is the link for it on Apple Podcasts: <a href='https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-audit-podcast/id1502796518'>https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-audit-podcast/id1502796518</a></p> <p> </p> <p>Trent is also a subject matter expert on data analytics with Greenskies Analytics. You can learn more at: GreenskiesAnalytics.com</p>

<p>As auditors we tend to be a very serious group of people. In our attempt to appear competent and professional we often switch over into the boring, robot-like realm ... a place that gives rise to much of the auditor stereotypes.</p> <p>In this episode we discuss how humor and creativity can actually make us better auditors and more effective in our job, plus we have a lot more fun doing the work. I'm joined by Mike Jacka, a truly hilarious auditor who has been waving this flag for decades. Come laugh with us on this episode and walk away with some advice for how you too can incorporate more humor and creativity into auditing.</p> <p>Mike Jacka is the Chief Creative Pilot of Flying Pig Audit Consulting and Training Solutions.</p> <p>You can get a copy of Mike's book "Auditing Humor: and other oxymorons" through the IIA Bookstore or on Amazon at: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Auditing-Humor-oxymorons-Mike-Jacka/dp/0991280903/ref=sr_1_6'>https://www.amazon.com/Auditing-Humor-oxymorons-Mike-Jacka/dp/0991280903/ref=sr_1_6</a></p> <p>You can reach out to Mike at: <a href='mailto:mjacka@fpacts.com'>mjacka@fpacts.com</a></p>

<p>For the times, they are a changing in the internal audit profession.</p> <p>You can choose to stick your head in the ground and ignore what's going on, but you may end up like some CAEs who just got let go from their positions for sticking with a traditional internal audit mindset.</p> <p>In this week's podcast I share why Traditional Internal Audit is dying. We've been seeing this for years, but I share with you some recent events and evidence that prove again that this is the trend we are seeing.</p> <p>If you are still spending most of our time auditing lower level process controls and focusing on historical events and internal controls, you are probably stuck in the traditional rut and need to start working your way out by transitioning to a true risk-based internal audit methodology.</p> <p>Value-based auditing, objective-based auditing vs. risk-based internal auditing I also discuss in this episode.</p>

<p>Seems like everyone and their dog is now offering online training saying the equivalent of "We got everything you want honey, We are the people that can find whatever you may need. If you got the money, honey we got your disease."</p> <p>I've been in the online space now for about 10 years, and I know all the different words people use may be a little confusing to know exactly what you are getting.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I do a little public service announcement (PSA) to help you hack your way through the jungle by explaining what certain words mean in the online space, what you can expect by the words used, and three questions to ask yourself before you register or purchase online webinars or course ... so you know what you are getting and don't get surprised.</p> <p>Online vs. virtual. Learning vs. training. Webinar vs. course. On-demand, forum, summit, in-person ... and the list goes on ... I discuss each, so you are better prepared to find exactly what you need in the online space.</p> <p>If you are interested in a learning platform that was around long before the pandemic, and will be around long after, check out cRisk Academy: the largest on-demand, webinar, and certification learning platform for internal auditors.</p> <p>Join thousands of professionals getting technical, soft-skills, certifications, and community though cRisk Academy. Lifetime access, 30-day money-back guarantee, and an online community included with all on-demand courses.</p> <p><a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a></p>

<p>A lot of people are advocating auditing culture. Problem is, it's very swishy and difficult to objectively audit. A much more practical approach is to utilize some newer research around Personality System Interaction (PSI) patterns and utilize the Organizational Personality Framework which provides new, innovative levers for change, based on analyzing the organization's preferred personality system interaction patterns.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I am joined by Barbara Siegenthaler, a pioneer in a systemic approach that combines business expertise and PSI theory into a 360° degree testing and thinking grid for human factors - across the organization. She is the founder of The Organizational Personality Framework and the Personality-based Internal Auditing PBA® methodology.</p> <p>Both approaches leverage the explanatory and predictive value of the Theory of Personality Systems Interactions. PSI Theory is a meta model from the domain of personality and motivation psychology, considered by academic psychology in Germany as "groundbreaking" and "highly innovative".</p> <p>​This is an episode when I had the opportunity to geek out with Barbara and show how we can improve what we do as #internalaudit when we apply principles from other disciplines into how we audit.</p> <p>Learn more about Barbara and these principles at: <a href='https://www.personality-based-audit.com/'>https://www.personality-based-audit.com/</a> and <a href='https://www.savanteon.com/'>https://www.savanteon.com/</a></p>

<p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I'm talking about relevance and relationships with the one and only Hal Garyn. If you don't already know Hal, you should.</p> <p>For many years #internalaudit has been losing its relevance in some organizations, and if you were having trouble with your relevance before, after what we've experienced in early 2020, your job just got harder. But fear not, in this episode we discuss what you can do to become more relevant.</p> <p>Since 80% of challenges stem from relationship issues, it's also fitting that we discuss relationships. If you want a seat at the table you have to earn it, and keep it. The way you do that is by showing your relevance and developing relationships.</p> <p>As I mention at the end of the episode, if you are a Chief Audit Executive and struggling with either of these, please reach out to me. Send me an email or message me through LinkedIn.</p>

<p>I've had the Crosby, Stills, Nash and Young song "Teach Your Children" in my head this week, which made me ponder about how we need to also "lead our team well."</p> <p>"You who are on the road, must have a code that you can live by" which I believe is servant leadership.</p> <p>We don't often talk about leadership, or have leadership training opportunities for ourselves or our team in internal audit, but these skills are some of the most important ones for us to acquire and develop. Exactly the sort of thing we work on in the CAE Forum.</p> <p>When we show up as a servant leader, productivity increases, we work less, have less stress and you "can look at them and sigh, and know they love you."</p> <p>I can't cover everything in one episode, so here is a great leadership training opportunity for you and your team. Make sure to share this with your whole team ... and it's free. When you learn and implement these four secrets you will see an increase productivity.</p> <p>4 Secrets to Leading Productive and Thriving Audit Teams Tuesday, June 30, 2020 · 9:00 AM PDT <a href='https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/4-Secrets-to-Leading-Productive-and-Thriving-Audit-Teams'>https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/4-Secrets-to-Leading-Productive-and-Thriving-Audit-Teams</a></p> <p>Here's to leading your team well this next week!</p>

<p>Imagine you are in your BED and just don't want to get out. You might feel a little fear, depression or shame. You want to pull up the covers and stay exactly where you are, but it's time to flip off the covers, jump in your canoe and start paddling with your OAR and go from playing the role of a victim to becoming the victor.</p> <p>I'm joined by my dear friend Marty Stanley on this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast to discuss her "Get Out of B.E.D." model. A simple model you can remember and use to get you out of blame, excuses, denial / drama and instead take ownership, accountability, and responsibility for you actions. Get out a pen and paper so you can draw the model and we talk through each part.</p> <p>This simple model has helped me for years and I am so excited to share Marty and her model with each of you.</p> <p>To get a copy of the Get Out of B.E.D. model and connect with Marty, visit her website: <a href='http://alteringoutcomes.com/'>http://alteringoutcomes.com/</a> email her at: martystanley@alteringoutcomes.com, or connect with her on LinkedIn: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/martystanley/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/martystanley/</a></p> <p> </p>

<p>I hear some Chief Audit Executives complaining they "don't get no respect" like a Rodney Dangerfield comedy skit. When Dangerfield said it, it was funny. Not so if you find your self saying that in real life.</p> <p>In this week's #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I discuss RESPECT for internal audit. You see, respect is a two way street. There are some things we need to do as individuals and as a profession to get the respect we want. I dig into some questions to ask yourself and practical steps you can start taking today.</p> <p>And ... an episode about RESPECT wouldn't be complete unless I sang a little Aretha Franklin, and told a few Rodney Dangerfield jokes too.</p> <p>Please share this episode with your friends and colleagues.</p> <p>If you are a CAE, book your call to join a community of like-minded CAEs in the CAE Forum. When you join the CAE Forum you will get much more clarity on exactly how you can get the RESPECT you deserve and elevate the status of internal audit in your organization. <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p>

<p>If I could save time in a bottle, ahhh those beautiful words from Jim Croce. Problem is you can't. The one thing all humans have an equal amount of is time ... the challenge for most of us it just keeps slipping, slipping away and we wake up years later in exactly the same place.</p> <p>The quality of your life depends on the choices you make and how you "take" time. It's time to quit complaining or thinking you don't "have enough time" or "now is not a good time." TODAY is the best day to start making changes and take the time to have a better life.</p> <p>Listen in on this week's #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a> or where ever you enjoy listening to podcasts, like Apple Podcasts. While you are there, please leave a review so you can be featured on a future episode.</p> <p>Oh, and for those of you that enjoy it, the guitar comes out again in this episode :)</p> <p>One thing that is slipping, slipping away is your ability to join the Chief Audit Executive Forum. If you are a #chiefauditexecutive and ready to take your career to the limit in a community of like-minded peers, book your call and join the #CAE Forum: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>Your career will thank you, and so will your sanity.</p> <p>#timemanagement</p>

<p>In order to really learn we need knowledge, skills, abilities and experience. Abilities come from taking knowledge and skills we acquire and through reflection and application figuring out how to apply them to our situation and circumstance for our benefit. We then fully learn through repetition and experience actually doing those things.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I dig into why this is so important and how we do this.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>I've read thousands of books in my life, but the knowledge does no good if I stop with reading the book (knowledge). The great Bruce Lee said, “Knowing is not enough, we must apply. Willing is not enough, we must do.”</p> <p>The fastest way to transform knowledge into action and wisdom is by joining a community of like-minded people, and investing in coaching.</p> <p>If you are serious about lifelong learning and transforming yourself for your success in life and your career, listen to learn how to turbo-charge your learning.</p> <p>If you are a #chiefauditexecutive and ready for a community of like-minded peers and coaching, join the #CAE Forum: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>If you are in #internalaudit and was a community of like-minded peers, join the cRisk Academy Facebook group: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/criskacademy/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/criskacademy/</a></p> <p>The documentary about the community of musicians in Laurel Canyon area of Los Angeles that I mentioned in this episode is called: Echo in the Canyon. Well worth a watch if you love music like I do :)</p> <p>#lifelonglearning</p>

<p>Normally I'm on the side of the table asking questions and interviewing guest, but in this very special #internalauditpodcast episode of #jammingwithjason you get to experience Silvia Puhani interviewing me.</p> <p>Silvia recently interviewed me for her podcast: Interne Revision, and graciously gave me access to the recording so I could also share it with you.</p> <p>We discussed: - my career - the differences between internal and external auditing - how you can improve your internal audit marketing - how to communicate effectively, and - my views on the future of internal audit</p> <p>For those of you that speak German, make sure to check out Silvia's podcast: <a href='https://www.puhani.com/index.php/podcast-2/'>https://www.puhani.com/index.php/podcast-2/</a></p>