<p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I dig into improving your learning so you can unlock your limitless potential. It's a bit of a potpourri episode, one where we literally talk about potpourri, but a few other topics besides learning :)</p> <p>You don't just need training, you need to LEARN ... and they are two different things. You can take a training and not learn anything, and you can learn without going to training. To learn you need a combination of knowledge, skills, abilities, and experience. Training only helps you with the first two.</p> <p>One of the best ways to improve your abilities and get experience is through community with others. Without this aspect of learning you really don't integrate and "learn" the information fully.</p> <p>Come join me in some communities where I hang out so we can interact directly. Podcasts, while they are fabulous are a one-way communication. When we connect in community the conversation can go both ways.</p> <p>For a community of like minded internal auditors on a full learning platform check out the cRisk Academy Facebook Group: <a href='https://www.facebook.com/groups/criskacademy/'>https://www.facebook.com/groups/criskacademy/</a></p> <p>For a community of like minded Chief Audit Executives, check out the CAE Forum: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>For a community of like minded CIA candidates, check out the CIA Discussion Group: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13732881/'>https://www.linkedin.com/groups/13732881/</a></p> <p>Here's the book I reference in this episode, that is a must-read for anyone who is serious about life-long learning.</p> <p>"Limitless: Upgrade Your Brain, Learn Anything Faster, and Unlock Your Exceptional Life" by Jim Kwik: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Limitless-Upgrade-Anything-Faster-Exceptional-ebook/dp/B082ZQDH63/'>https://www.amazon.com/Limitless-Upgrade-Anything-Faster-Exceptional-ebook/dp/B082ZQDH63/</a></p>

<p>Seems like everyone and their dog is now offering online training saying the equivalent of "We got everything you want honey, We are the people that can find whatever you may need. If you got the money, honey we got your disease."</p> <p>I've been in the online space now for about 10 years, and I know all the different words people use may be a little confusing to know exactly what you are getting.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I do a little public service announcement (PSA) to help you hack your way through the jungle by explaining what certain words mean in the online space, what you can expect by the words used, and three questions to ask yourself before you register or purchase online webinars or course ... so you know what you are getting and don't get surprised.</p> <p>Online vs. virtual. Learning vs. training. Webinar vs. course. On-demand, forum, summit, in-person ... and the list goes on ... I discuss each, so you are better prepared to find exactly what you need in the online space.</p> <p>If you are interested in a learning platform that was around long before the pandemic, and will be around long after, check out cRisk Academy: the largest on-demand, webinar, and certification learning platform for internal auditors.</p> <p>Join thousands of professionals getting technical, soft-skills, certifications, and community though cRisk Academy. Lifetime access, 30-day money-back guarantee, and an online community included with all on-demand courses.</p> <p><a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a></p>

<p>If you've ever wondered what psychology, science, mindfulness, and music have to do with internal audit, this #jammingwithjason episode will explain. When you listen, you will see I'm not as crazy as I may first appear :)</p> <p>Traditional internal audit is no longer serving our organizations, and it's time to start a revolution and shake it up baby, twist and shout our way to being elevated so we can fly like the eagles in our organizations and be seen as trusted advisors adding real value. It's time to live from a place of possibilities and opportunity instead of being stuck in fear, negativity, and communication breakdowns.</p> <p>Even when it's worse than it appears, it's alright. We will get by, we will survive ... together.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a> or where ever you enjoy listening to podcasts.</p> <p>If you listen to the podcast, please do me a favor. 1. Connect with me on LinkedIn: <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmefford/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/jasonmefford/</a> 2. Send me a personalized connection request and let me know you listen to the podcast (if you don't personalize the invite I may not approve due to all the random, spamming requests I get each day) 3. Let me know what you like the most about the podcast 4. Bonus points if you can list the songs/artists I made reference to during the podcast and in the show notes</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>I love to learn, and love teaching and coaching others so they also learn. In the knowledge economy our brains are our most valuable asset. In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode on "Myth Busting the CPE Training Mindset" I discuss four mistakes I see people making holding them back and limiting their personal and professional development.</p> <p>As you can guess by the title, having a CPE-only mindset is one that must be replaced by life-long learning. Listen in to see what other three are and how to bust through and break on through to the other side.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>If you are ready to take action on your personal and professional development, here's a great opportunity. In April 2020, cRisk Academy is offering a 50% discount on all their on-demand courses.</p> <p>For you and your team to take advantage of this special opportunity all you need to do is:</p> <p>1. Use this link to sign up for a FREE account: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf%20'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a> 2. Use coupon code: APRIL2020-50 when you register for any courses. 3. Use the coupon for any and all courses, as many times as you want until the coupon expires the end of April.</p> <p>I hope this helps you and your team.</p> <p>It can literally save you thousands of dollar in your training budget this year. For example, you can save $1,250 on the cRBIA course with this link: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/?coupon_code=APRIL2020-50'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/?coupon_code=APRIL2020-50</a></p> <p>But, the coupon expires 30 April at 11:59pm Pacific Time. Are you going to take advantage of this opportunity, or just let it slip sliding away?</p>

<p>As auditors, we often deal with people who are defensive, have difficult behaviors, or have whining and negative demeanors. Wouldn't it be great is we had some tips for how to deal with all three to help make our job's easier.</p> <p>Listen in to this special episode, where we dive into all three. Make sure to grab a pen and paper when you listen to this episode since there is so much good content.</p> <p>I'm joined by Dr. Rick Brinkman who is the coauthor or author of 6 McGraw Hill books, including: Dealing with People You Can't Stand: How to Bring Out the Best in People at Their Worst which has sold over 2,000,000 copies and has been translated into 25 languages. Yep, you read that right. Over 2,000,000 books means Dr. Brinkman is one of the best in the world at what he does.</p> <p>He has been a featured guest on CNN and is a frequent communication expert for publications such as the Wall Street Journal, the New York Times, Oprah Magazine and USA Today. I'm so honored to have Dr. Brinkman also as a guest on #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast</p> <p>Register for the upcoming cRisk Academy webinar where Rick and Jason will discuss "Meet Less and Do More: Go From Meetings You Hate to Meetings You Love" on Tuesday, May 5, 2020 · 9:00 AM PDT. <a href='https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/Meet-Less-and-Do-More-Go-From-Meetings-You-Hate-to-Meetings-You-Love'>https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/Meet-Less-and-Do-More-Go-From-Meetings-You-Hate-to-Meetings-You-Love</a></p> <p>Get a copy of Dealing with People You Can't Stand: How to Bring Out the Best in People at Their Worst at: <a href='https://www.drrickbrinkman.com/'>https://www.drrickbrinkman.com/</a> or Amazon at: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Dealing-People-Stand-Revised-Expanded/dp/0071785728/ref=sr_1_2'>https://www.amazon.com/Dealing-People-Stand-Revised-Expanded/dp/0071785728/ref=sr_1_2</a></p> <p>#communication #rapport #difficultpeople</p>

<p>Every event or circumstance we find ourselves in is neutral. There is no good or bad in circumstance, it's how we choose to respond or interpret the situation. We can view our circumstances as a threat or an opportunity ... the choice is up to you. Since auditors are trained to look for the negative, there is a very real problem when we let a negative view creep over into our personal lives.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I share how you can choose to see the opportunity and questions you can ask yourself to find the opportunity and stay positive regardless of your circumstances. Every silver lining's got a touch of grey, but we will get by, we will survive. It's even worse than it appears, but it's alright, we will get by, we will survive.</p> <p>Here's one of the opportunities from our uncertain times. In March 2020, cRisk Academy gave away over $75,000 in free and discounted courses to help out the internal audit community. In April 2020, they are offering a 50% discount on all their courses.</p> <p>For you and your team to take advantage of this special opportunity all you need to do is:</p> <p>1. Use this link to sign up for a free account: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf%20'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a> 2. Use coupon code: APRIL2020-50 when they register for any courses. 3. You can use the coupon for any and all courses, as many times as you want until the coupon expires the end of April.</p> <p>I hope this helps you and your team members during the current period of uncertainty.</p> <p>It can literally save you thousands of dollar in your training budget this year. For example, you can save $1,250 on the cRBIA course with this link: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/?coupon_code=APRIL2020-50'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/?coupon_code=APRIL2020-50</a></p> <p>But, the coupon expires the end of April. Are you going to take advantage of this opportunity, or let it slip away?</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>I am pleased to talk with Julio Tirado for this week's #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode where discuss lessons he's learned from being a CAE. You'll hear how Julio's career brought him to be a CAE, and suggestions he has for those of you that aspire to become a CAE.</p> <p>It's just me and Julio down at the school yard ... jamming and talking shop (could help putting in the Paul Simon reference :)</p> <p>We discuss many things including: how to put the user (i.e. our audit client) at the center of the relationship, the importance of every auditor having a basic understanding on IT and security, considering the consequences of our audit recommendations, the need for project management skills, and how all internal auditors have to spend a little time selling.</p> <p>Julio Tirado is the CAE for Spirit Bank in Tulsa, OK.</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>In times of chaos and crisis, people look for the leaders. At these times, even when as a leader you may want to retreat to your cave ... it's more important to show up as a leader. Retreating to your cave may just be one of the worst things you could do.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditepisode I discuss the qualities of leaders in times of chaos, what you should be doing as a leader, and how to take care of yourself while you care for others.</p> <p>You want to listen to this whole episode, since it takes a very interesting turn at the end, you won't be expecting.</p> <p>Beware of fake leaders. Many people who think they are leaders are actually followers, just copying what others are doing. If you are like most people, I'm sure you'd prefer the real deal, instead of a cheap copy. Beware of people pretending to be leaders who are really followers. Fake leaders tend to show up in numbers during times of chaos and often dupe people. Don't be one of those people.</p> <p>If you are ready to BE a leader as a Chief Audit Executive, download your copy of the 2020 CAE Survey Report and register for the weekly CAE Briefing (btw both of which are absolutely FREE) at: <a href='http://bit.ly/CAE-Survey-2020'>http://bit.ly/CAE-Survey-2020</a></p> <p>If you are a CAE ready to go to the next level as a leader in your career and really elevate internal audit in your organization, instead of holding onto the traditional model that no longer works, join the CAE Forum at: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p>

<p>#Internalaudit professionals don't need to networking, they need community.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I explain the differences between networking and joining a community, and believe me there is a big difference. Even when people think they have community it is often just networking, which is a big waste of time.</p> <p>Networking is for sales people to collect sales leads. Unless you are trying to sell people products or services, it's time to stop networking and join a community.</p> <p>I also discuss the elephant in the room with the world-wide corona virus pandemic and some ways you can minimize the impact on your career.</p> <p>Join the thousands of people training each month with cRisk Academy at: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a></p> <p>If you are a #ChiefAuditExecutive ready to join a community of top CAEs from all over the world, schedule your complimentary no-obligation 30-minute call with Jason Mefford to see if it's right for you at: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>Have conferences, trainings and meeting been canceled you planned to attending this year? If you are like most people, the answer is YES.</p> <p>Are you trying to figure out how to get yourself and your team the training you need?</p> <p>If you are a manager or #chiefauditexecutive responsible for training, book a complimentary 15-minute call to explore the various virtual training options that would work best for you and your team.</p> <p>Mefford Associates has been doing virtual #internalaudit #training for years, so this is nothing new to us. Book a call to learn about options for you and your team. calendly.com/jasonmefford/15min</p> <p> Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>In this week's episode I speak with Steve Goepfert about lessons he learned from being a CAE. We discuss various topics including the difference between being a Chief Auditor, and being a Chief Audit Executive; what it really takes to be a CAE; how to provide those moments of head snap (you'll have to listen to learn more); how to prove and communicate the value internal audit provides; and not getting so engrained in the mechanics that we don't focus on the big picture.</p> <p>Steve Goepfert was the Vice President - Internal Audit (Chief Auditor) for United Airlines in Chicago, Illinois. He assumed the role after the merger of United and Continental. He had previously been Chief Auditor at Continental Airlines for 21 years.</p> <p>He was the 2006-2007 Chairman of the Board for the Institute of Internal Auditors, Inc. (IIA). At the Global level, Steve served on the IIA's Executive Committee for 6 years (2003-09) and on the IIA Board for 7 years. He previously served as Senior Vice Chairman and Vice Chairman – Professional Services and is a past President of the Houston Chapter (1999-2000), and served on its Board for 17 years. In 2012, Steve was inducted into the inaugural class of the IIA's American Hall of Distinguished Audit Practitioners. He was recognized in 2013 with the Victor Brink award for distinguished service to the IIA.</p> <p>He is now enjoying retirement in Tennessee. I am very grateful to have one of the legends in the internal audit profession on the show.</p>

<p>There are some common problems and mistakes holding most #chiefauditexecutive back from elevating #internalaudit in their organizations, and moving into executive presence where they are perceived as a #trustedadvisor.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast I discuss these mistakes and how #CAE can take action to move their career and the profession of internal auditing forward. If you are a CAE, this is a must listen episode. If you are not a CAE, please listen and share with your CAE. You will still get tremendous value from the information to help in your career.</p> <p>Listen in at: <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/'>http://www.jasonmefford.com/jammingwithjason/</a></p> <p>If you are a CAE and really serious about elevating the status of internal audit in your organization, improving your executive presence, and getting best practices and thought leadership from like-minded CAEs, the CAE Forum is for you.</p> <p>Submit your application to join the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) Forum. We are accepting new member application until 31 January 2020. <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>You can also watch a more extended video version of this discussion on that page.</p>

<p>In this week's episode I speak with Larry Harrington about lessons he learned from being a CAE. We discuss various topics including: personal branding and your career development plan, benefits of being in roles outside of internal audit, developing and maintaining strong relationships with management, getting a seat at the table, and investing in yourself. So much in this episode.</p> <p>In fact, there is so much in this episode you will probably want to listen more than once.</p> <p>Larry Harrington served as the global chairman of The IIA, and retired as the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) for Raytheon Company, which specializes in defense, civil government, and cybersecurity markets throughout the world. Prior to joining Raytheon in 2004, he led the internal audit function for several Fortune 100 companies, where he also served in other areas, including finance, human resources, and operations.</p> <p>In "retirement" Larry speaks, coaches, mentors and consults with internal auditors all over the world, and continues to be a strong and passionate voice for the internal audit profession. You can reach out to him at: <a href='mailto:Harringtonlj55@gmail.com'>Harringtonlj55@gmail.com</a> or <a href='https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-harrington-574634/'>https://www.linkedin.com/in/larry-harrington-574634/</a></p> <p>For his term as The IIA’s global chairman, Larry chose the theme, “Invest in Yourself.” He urges internal auditors to enhance their value by undertaking professional development opportunities. From reading topical and timely material, to adding professional certifications, to attending conferences and workshops in internal auditing and on the business functions they audit, internal auditors can improve their own professional skills and opportunities and better serve their organizations and stakeholders.</p> <p>If you are the kind of person that want to "invest in yourself" check out the free webinars and on-demand courses offered by cRisk Academy, the largest webinar and on-demand training platform for internal auditors at: <a href='https://criskacademy.com/courses/'>https://criskacademy.com/courses/</a> or <a href='http://bit.ly/criskacademy'>http://bit.ly/criskacademy</a></p> <p>For CAEs, get a weekly dose from the CAE Briefing, delivered for free to your in-box at: <a href='http://meffordassociates.com/caebriefing/'>http://meffordassociates.com/caebriefing/</a></p> <p>Listen each week to Jamming with Jason for interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in internal audit, risk management, and compliance.</p> <p>Jason Mefford is a Rock Star - Internal Audit, Risk Management and Compliance. He helps Chief Audit Executives (CAE) and professionals with technical & soft-skills training and coaching to navigate the mine fields of audit, risk and compliance in organizations. <a href='http://www.jasonmefford.com'>http://www.jasonmefford.com</a> and <a href='http://www.meffordassociates.com'>http://www.meffordassociates.com</a></p>

<p>In times of chaos and crisis, people look for the leaders. At these times, even when as a leader you may want to retreat to your cave ... it's more important to show up as a leader. Retreating to your cave may just be one of the worst things you could do.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditepisode I discuss the qualities of leaders in times of chaos, what you should be doing as a leader, and how to take care of yourself while you care for others.</p> <p>You want to listen to this whole episode, since it takes a very interesting turn at the end, you won't be expecting.</p> <p>Beware of fake leaders. Many people who think they are leaders are actually followers, just copying what others are doing. If you are like most people, I'm sure you'd prefer the real deal, instead of a cheap copy. Beware of people pretending to be leaders who are really followers. Fake leaders tend to show up in numbers during times of chaos and often dupe people. Don't be one of those people.</p> <p>If you are ready to BE a leader as a Chief Audit Executive, download your copy of the 2020 CAE Survey Report and register for the weekly CAE Briefing (btw both of which are absolutely FREE) at: <a href='http://bit.ly/CAE-Survey-2020'>http://bit.ly/CAE-Survey-2020</a></p> <p>If you are a CAE ready to go to the next level as a leader in your career and really elevate internal audit in your organization, instead of holding onto the traditional model that no longer works, join the CAE Forum at: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p>

<p>Even though we have been using the term "risk-based auditing" for over 20 years, many internal audit groups have not really implemented it ... and many mis-understand the concepts behind it.</p> <p>In this episode I explain the challenges and opportunities facing internal audit as a profession and why moving to a truly risk-based approach is the opportunity for us to overcome those challenges. I also discuss the confusion with the terms objective-based, or risk management-based audit.</p> <p>I've been preaching risk-based internal auditing for over 15 years and am consider one of the leading world experts on risk-based internal audit (and yes I wrote a book on this, frameworks, certifications and have trained internal auditors all over the world).</p> <p>If you missed the webinar on Establishing or Improving a Risk-Based Audit Approach, you can now access it in the cRisk Academy on-demand library at: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/establishing-or-improving-a-risk-based-audit-approach/'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/establishing-or-improving-a-risk-based-audit-approach/</a></p> <p>Join me for a deeper dive into Risk-Based Internal Auditing on the next webinar: Thursday, October 31, 2019 · 9:00 AM PDT. Register at: <a href='https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/Deeper-Dive-Risk-Based-Audit-Approach-with-Questions-and-Answers-Q-A'>https://www.bigmarker.com/crisk-academy/Deeper-Dive-Risk-Based-Audit-Approach-with-Questions-and-Answers-Q-A</a></p> <p>To learn more about how you can enroll in a new course and receive your Certified Risk-Based Internal Auditor (cRBIA) professional designation visit: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/p/certified-risk-based-internal-auditor-crbia/</a></p> <p>You can also save 60% when you register for the cRBIA course before 30 November 2019.</p> <p> </p>

<p>As auditors we tend to be a very serious group of people. In our attempt to appear competent and professional we often switch over into the boring, robot-like realm ... a place that gives rise to much of the auditor stereotypes.</p> <p>In this episode we discuss how humor and creativity can actually make us better auditors and more effective in our job, plus we have a lot more fun doing the work. I'm joined by Mike Jacka, a truly hilarious auditor who has been waving this flag for decades. Come laugh with us on this episode and walk away with some advice for how you too can incorporate more humor and creativity into auditing.</p> <p>Mike Jacka is the Chief Creative Pilot of Flying Pig Audit Consulting and Training Solutions.</p> <p>You can get a copy of Mike's book "Auditing Humor: and other oxymorons" through the IIA Bookstore or on Amazon at: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Auditing-Humor-oxymorons-Mike-Jacka/dp/0991280903/ref=sr_1_6'>https://www.amazon.com/Auditing-Humor-oxymorons-Mike-Jacka/dp/0991280903/ref=sr_1_6</a></p> <p>You can reach out to Mike at: mjacka@fpacts.com</p> <p>To take advantage of the 50% off cRisk Academy on-demand course use this link: <a href='http://bit.ly/criskacademy'>http://bit.ly/criskacademy</a> and use coupon code: JAMMING2019 when you register for a course. cRisk Academy is offering this to listeners of the Jamming with Jason podcast through 30 November, so make sure to take advantage of your savings today.</p>

<p>The ACFE reports that about 40% of frauds are uncovered from tips to a whistleblower hotline, while internal audit only uncovers about 15% of frauds. While detecting fraud is not internal audit's primary purpose, one is still left to wonder why internal audit doesn't find more fraud, especially since one of the first questions from management is "why didn't audit find this?"</p> <p>Jason Mefford is joined by Aaron Denbo to discuss how internal audit can change a few simple things to help increase their ability to find and detect fraud. This is a previous recording of a webinar Aaron did with Jason for cRisk Academy.</p> <p>To see a list of upcoming free cRisk Academy webinars, visit: <a href='https://www.bigmarker.com/communities/crisk-academy/conferences'>https://www.bigmarker.com/communities/crisk-academy/conferences</a></p> <p>To go into more depth on today's topic, and not get blamed for fraud you didn't find, visit: bravenacademy.com</p>

<p>In order to really add value to your organization, internal audit has to move to the strategic level. Too often we spend our time in the details and weeds and then wonder why executives are not interested in what we have to say. If you are being ignored, you are probably not talking and acting at the strategic level. Unless we focus on what is relevant to executives and the board, we risk being viewed as as not adding value and even worse irrelevant.</p> <p>Jason Mefford is joined by Norman Marks, a retired Chief Audit Executive, Chief Risk Officer and thought leader to discuss what internal audit needs to do to move up to the strategic level and get a seat at the big kids' table.</p>

<p>I spent the last several months interviewing many chief audit executives (CAEs) from all over the world to gain a better understanding of the current state of internal audit. What I found is that not only is the pace of change accelerating at an alarming rate, but along with the mounting challenges come plenty of opportunities too. From these interviews, and my own experiences as a CAE at two organizations, I have identified some clear trends, challenges, and opportunities that most CAEs are working to address.</p> <p>#internalaudit #cae #chiefauditexecutive</p>

<p>In this week's episode I speak with Imran Zia about lessons he learned from being a CAE. We discuss how management wants to see internal audit as a partner and trusted advisor. How integrity, courage, likability and trust help you get to that status. We also discuss how to become the CEO of your own career development and that by spending time learning you business and industry is one of the biggest things you can do to earn the trust of management.</p> <p>Imran Zia is the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) for the Government of British Columbia in Canada.</p>

<p>Jason Mefford is joined by Dan Clayton, for a discussion of how internal audit is evolving and changing, driving some of the updates to Sawyer's Internal Auditing, 7th edition. Information in the International Professional Practices Framework (IPPF), the Internal Audit textbook, and CIA Review Course materials, provide a basis for how to practice internal auditing, but Sawyer's Internal Auditing (one of the most influential books in the profession) fills in some of the gaps in the other material.</p> <p>Dan Clayton is the Director of Strategy and Knowledge Management for the System Audit Office at The University of Texas System, and was the project leader for the update team to Sawyers Internal Auditing, 7th edition.</p>

<p>#Internalaudit professionals don't need to networking, they need community.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I explain the differences between networking and joining a community, and believe me there is a big difference. Even when people think they have community it is often just networking, which is a big waste of time.</p> <p>Networking is for sales people to collect sales leads. Unless you are trying to sell people products or services, it's time to stop networking and join a community.</p> <p>I also discuss the elephant in the room with the world-wide corona virus pandemic and some ways you can minimize the impact on your career.</p> <p>Join the thousands of people training each month with cRisk Academy at: <a href='https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf'>https://ondemand.criskacademy.com/?affcode=105582_jpp6czlf</a></p> <p>If you are a #ChiefAuditExecutive ready to join a community of top CAEs from all over the world, schedule your complimentary no-obligation 30-minute call with Jason Mefford to see if it's right for you at: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>Have conferences, trainings and meeting been canceled you planned to attending this year? If you are like most people, the answer is YES.</p> <p>Are you trying to figure out how to get yourself and your team the training you need?</p> <p>If you are a manager or #chiefauditexecutive responsible for training, book a complimentary 15-minute call to explore the various virtual training options that would work best for you and your team.</p> <p>Mefford Associates has been doing virtual #internalaudit #training for years, so this is nothing new to us. Book a call to learn about options for you and your team. calendly.com/jasonmefford/15min</p> <p> Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>Conflict seems like a dirty word, one most people want to avoid. Unfortunately it is a part of everyday life at work and in our personal lives, so we need to understand it and learn how to deal with conflict.</p> <p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I discuss conflict concepts with Ken Cloke from his book: Resolving Conflicts at Work: Ten Strategies for Everyone on the Job.</p> <p>Ken Cloke is a world-recognized mediator, dialogue facilitator, conflict resolution systems designer, teacher, public speaker, author of numerous books and articles, and a pioneer and leader in the field of mediation and conflict resolution for the last 37 years.</p> <p>Ken created the Center for Dispute Resolution in Santa Monica, CA, where he has been a mediator, arbitrator, facilitator, coach, consultant and trainer, specializing in communication, collaborative negotiation, dialogue facilitation, and resolving complex multi-party disputes, including thousands of marital, divorce, family, community, grievance and workplace disputes, collective bargaining negotiations, organizational and school conflicts, sexual harassment, discrimination, and public policy disputes; and designing preventative conflict resolution systems for public and private sector organizations.</p> <p>Get your copy of Ken's book through Amazon at: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/Resolving-Conflicts-Work-Strategies-Everyone/dp/0470922249'>https://www.amazon.com/Resolving-Conflicts-Work-Strategies-Everyone/dp/0470922249</a></p> <p>Learn more and connect with Ken at: <a href='https://www.kencloke.com/'>https://www.kencloke.com/</a></p> <p>#conflictresolution #conflict</p>

<p>I am please to bring back Tom Harris for this week's #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode where discuss lessons he's learned from being a CAE. You'll hear how Tom's career brought him to be a CAE, and suggestions he has for those of you that aspire to become a CAE.</p> <p>In an earlier episode I spoke with Tom about Internal Audit's Role in System Implementations, so if you missed that one make sure to go back and take a listen.</p> <p>Tom Harris, the Vice-President of Internal Audit for National CineMedia joins me to provide a case study on how he took an approach of embedding members of his internal audit team into the project team, and even helped drive the user-setup portion of the project. We explore the risks and benefits of taking different approaches. While embedding internal audit into the project team may limit objectivity and assurance projects for a time, it just may be one of the best way to provide long-term value to the organization and deepen relationships with management.</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>#Independence is a term may in #internalaudit like to push the boundaries on, but when we do we can come off as arrogant or self-righteous to others in the organization. In this week's #jammingwithjason #internalaudit podcast I discuss the difference between independence and objectivity, why objectivity is more important than independence, and you are not really as independent as you may think.</p> <p>As with all episodes, you will also walk away with some practical tips you can start using today.</p> <p>This week's episode is brought to you by the Chief Audit Executive (CAE) Forum.</p> <p>If you are a CAE that wants to join a community of like-minded CAEs where you can have frank discussions about the challenges and opportunities of being a Chief Audit Executive (CAE), while getting practical advice to increase your executive presence, influence and value as a trusted advisor to your organization, check out what they have to offer and book your no-obligation call to see if it's right for you: <a href='https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum'>https://jasonmefford.mykajabi.com/caeforum</a></p> <p>Did you also know the CAE Forum comes with a $100,000 guarantee, so its a no-risk investment in you and your team to elevate the status of internal audit in your organization.</p> <p>Jamming with Jason is the #1 #internalauditpodcast in the world has interviews and discussions (jam sessions) relevant to Chief Audit Executives and professionals in #internalaudit, risk management, and compliance.</p>

<p>In this #jammingwithjason #internalauditpodcast episode I speak with Danny Goldberg about some of the people centric skills each internal auditor must have. As a profession we often focus primarily on our technical skills, but soft skills is what will get you to the director or CAE level.</p> <p>We discuss topics like: conflict resolution, body language, emotional intelligence, empathy, using appropriate mode of communication, etc... what may not seem like #internalaudit qualities, but things we have to develop to succeed in our career.</p> <p>Danny Goldberg is the Founder of GoldSRD (www.goldsrd.com), a leading provider of Staff Augmentation, Executive Recruiting and Professional Development services. He is a well-known speaker on internal auditing and People-Centric Skills. Danny co-authored People-Centric Skills: Communication and Interpersonal Skills for Internal Auditors, via Wiley Publications.</p> <p>This is the first book published specifically to address the wide-ranging topic of communication skills for internal auditors. It has been offered through the IIA and ISACA bookstores since July 2015. You can also find it on Amazon at: <a href='https://www.amazon.com/People-Centric-Skills-Interpersonal-Communication-Professionals/dp/1118850815/'>https://www.amazon.com/People-Centric-Skills-Interpersonal-Communication-Professionals/dp/1118850815/</a></p> <p>A second edition of People-Centric Skills is due out in 2020. This is not an update, per se but can be thought of as a second book in a series. Listen to the episode and you'll see what I mean. Contact Danny for a personalized copy of the new book when it's released hot off the presses (dgoldberg@goldsrd.com).</p>