The Integrated Schools Podcast

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversation strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

Kids & Family
Parenting
Education
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Parenting to Win: Who Pays for the Helicopter?
Helicopter Parenting, Snowplow Parenting, Lawnmower Parenting - these are all forms of intensive parenting. Dr. Jessica Calarco joins us to discuss the impact of this type of parenting in our school communities.
52 min
102
Gentrification and School Segregation
Dr. Kfir Mordechay joins us to discuss gentrification and school segregation. In many places we are living together, but still not learning together. What are the impacts of that disconnect?
45 min
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Support Integrated Schools on Patreon (BONUS)
We're launching a Patreon - patreon.com/integratedschools. Please support this important work!
7 min
104
Between We and They: A School Integration Story...
As Beth's district contemplates school closures, she is finding that being part of the new school community gives her a different perspective on these issues.
38 min
105
Between We and They: A School Integration Story...
Transitions aren't always easy, but both Beth and her daughters reflect on the ways they've grown.
34 min
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Between We and They: A School Integration Story...
Being in between can be lonely, but it can also be liberating. Beth reflects on the past year.
25 min
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Between We and They: A School Integration Story...
Two months into the school year finds Beth grappling with the differences between schools, trying to make sense of how she and her family fit into these two communities.
33 min
108
Between We and They: A School Integration Story...
Race, parenting, and privilege. This 5-part series will explore how our choices about school shape where we belong, who we call “We.” Part 1 - Something feels wrong at the "good" school.
28 min
109
Not In My Suburbs: Milliken v. Bradley @ 45 (BO...
We’re joined by Michelle Adams, Constitutional Law Professor at Cardozo School of Law, who is writing a book on Milliken v Bradley, a case that functionally halted the promise of Brown v Board at the city limits, allowing all-white suburbs (created through policies like redlining) to maintain all-white schools.
46 min
110
Busing: The Terms of the Debate (BONUS)
We're joined by Dr. Matt Delmont who literally wrote the book on busing. We talk about the centering of white feelings that happened in the north, as the terms for debating desegregation were set.
42 min
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ICYMI: Seeing White (BONUS)
In 2017, Scene On Radio released a series called Seeing White. We're thrilled to bring you some highlights, and some thoughts about how the idea of Whiteness impacts discussions of school integration.
58 min
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ICYMI: The Miseducation Podcast (BONUS)
We're thrilled to bring you an episode of The Miseducation Podcast - a student driven podcast from New York City.
28 min
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Ep 23 - Grappling with Brown v. Board (BvB@65)
We talk with Anna about what we learned from our BvB@65 series. What is the difference between desegregation and integration, and why does it matter.
50 min
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Ep 22 - I Hope They Hear It In Our Voices (BvB@65)
Greg and Carol, two Black parents from different parts of the county, share their experiences in mostly White schools. Through them, we can see how far we have to go to created truly integrated schools.
51 min
115
Ep 21 - Beyond Black and White with David Hinoj...
Part 4 of our Brown v Board at 65 series pushes back on the narrative that desegregation is solely about Black and White kids. David Hinojosa helps us better understand Latinx perspectives on integration from before Brown through today.
49 min
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Ep20 - Amanda Lewis on Desegregation Without In...
Amanda Lewis joins us to discuss the legacy of Brown v Board, and how the stories we tell about it, allow even our most desegregated schools to continue to impact kids in very racialized ways.
48 min
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Ep 19 - Segrenomics, Black Teachers, and Noliwe...
Part two of Brown v. Board at 65: The Stories We Tell Ourselves features Dr. Noliwe Rooks helping us tell the full story of Brown v Board, particularly as it relates to black teachers and black schools.
47 min
118
Ep 18 - Rucker Johnson and the Grandchildren of...
Brown v Board at Sixty-Five - The Stories We Tell Ourselves. In this first episode of our mini-series commemorating the 65th anniversary of Brown v Board, we're joined by Dr. Rucker Johnson, author of Children of the Dream: Why Integration Works.
45 min
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Ep 17 - Public Schools, Private Money
In the Season 2 finale, we discuss the many ways in which private money is funneled into public schools - which schools get it, what they use it for, and what the impact is on the overall system of public education.
46 min
120
Ep 16 - Too Bad, Just Fine, and Whiteness Centered
We grapple with some of the issues around centering whiteness in this work, as well as discussing whether a school is ever "too bad" and what it means for your kid to be "just fine".
47 min
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Ep 15 - Gifted, Talented and Segregated
Gifted programs have long been criticized for serving a disproportionately large percentage of white and/or privileged students. In this episode, we talk about the challenges that gifted programs create for educational justice.
40 min
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Ep 14 - Kirkland on Integration
Dr. David Kirkland (NYU) joins us for a meta discussion around school integration. He shares a powerful vision of integration from a racial justice framework; it is one that is grounded in democratic participation and the sharing of resources and one that involves us all in the deliberation of what counts as knowledge, the language of curriculum, and the fundamental design of education.
55 min
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Ep 13 - Hopes and Hazards of Dual Language
Dual Language programs are exploding in popularity across the country -- and particularly among white &/or privileged families in gentrifying communities. There's great hope for equity in these programs, but also plenty of hazards, particularly around how white and/ or privileged families show up in the spaces.
46 min
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Ep 12 - Whiteness vs Rightness: A Conversation ...
What does ‘colonizing’ mean in the context of a global majority school, and how can we be thoughtful about not centering whiteness? We talk to Kelly from NYC about some of the things we might think of as right, just because they are white.
51 min
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Ep 11 - White Women and the Politics of White S...
We talk with Dr. Elizabeth McRae, author of Mothers of Massive Resistance: White Women and the Politics of White Supremacy, about what her research tells us about contemporary school segregation -- and the hope her work gives for it’s dismantling.
44 min