The Integrated Schools Podcast

Hosts, Andrew, a White dad from Denver, and, Val, a Black mom from North Carolina, dig into topics about race, parenting, and school segregation. With a variety of guests ranging from parents to experts, these conversation strive to live in the nuance of a complicated topic.

Kids & Family
Parenting
Education
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Language, Power, and Whiteness
Dr. JPB Gerald is back! In addition to arguing that what we prize in standard language aligns with a constructed White identity, he also makes the link between our concept of dis/ability, and the creation of the idea of Blackness that emerged from emancipation.
64 min
27
Cathryn and the Saviors
What happens when a group of well meaning, and well resourced, parents enter an under resourced school in order to "save" it? For Cathryn, a low-income parent, she felt like she was being robbed of the culture and history of her school community.
64 min
28
What's up with the suburbs?: Organizing, Buildi...
The mostly White vision of the suburbs baked into our popular conception doesn't match the reality of today. The impacts of this are being felt in elections around the country, and the implications for education, and particularly the possibility of integrated schools, is huge. Dr. Jasmine Clark was the first Black woman elected to a suburban district in Georgia. She joins us to discuss.
43 min
29
PTA So White with Dr. Brittany Murray
PTAs are often where kids are first exposed to civic engagement. They see caregivers organizing to advocate for resources and policies. And yet, there is a massive representation problem, leading to inequities. Dr. Brittany Murray joins us to discuss.
71 min
30
Finding Hope in Solidarity with Heather McGhee
Heather McGhee’s book, The Sum of Us, called attention to the idea of “solidarity dividends”, the gains that are made when people come together across race to fight for justice. She joins us to talk about her new podcast, also called The Sum of Us, which features a different story of cross racial solidarity in each episode.
60 min
31
Back to School Transitions - Season 9 Kick Off!
We're back!! Val and Andrew discuss transitions - back to school, middle school, high school, new forms of parent engagement, autonomy for our kids, and your transitions!
54 min
32
Parenting to Win: Who Pays for the Helicopter? ...
Intensive Parenting – helicopter, lawnmower, snowplow, free-range – is often pursued by White and privileged parents as a way to protect kids from failure and to ensure that they end up on the “winning” side of the vast economic inequality in our country.  However, the ways that White and privileged parenting norms impact entire school communities often end up perpetuating existing disparities.
52 min
33
Between We and They - Part 5 (Re-Release)
As Beth's district contemplates school closures, she is finding that being part of the new school community gives her a different perspective on these issues. - PLUS - reflections from 2022 from Val and Andrew on the series.
51 min
34
Between We and They - Part 4 (Re-Release)
FROM 2019: Transitions aren't always easy, but both Beth and her daughters reflect on the ways they've grown.
34 min
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Between We and They - Part 3 (Re-Release)
FROM 2019: Being in between can be lonely, but it can also be liberating. Beth reflects on the past year.
25 min
36
Between We and They - Part 2 (Re-Release)
FROM 2019: Two months into the school year finds Beth grappling with the differences between schools, trying to make sense of how she and her family fit into these two communities.
33 min
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Between We and They - Part 1 (Re-Release)
FROM 2019: Race, parenting, and privilege. This 5-part series will explore how our choices about school shape where we belong, who we call “We.” Part 1 - Something feels wrong at the "good" school.
32 min
38
Race, Class, and Power in Our Schools: Mark and...
Season 2 of The School Colors podcast features a deep dive into housing and school segregation in Queens. We're joined by hosts, Mark Winston Griffith and Max Freedman, to discuss race, class, and power in our schools and cities. While focused on one district in Queens, the stories are universal.
61 min
39
Reflections on Season 7
Val and Andrew reflect on a whole season worth of episodes together as co-hosts, share some of their favorite moments, and answer some listener questions in our final episode of season 7.
36 min
40
Anti-CRT, Book Bans, and A Call to HEAL
We are joined by James Haslam (he/him/his), who serves as Senior Fellow at Race Forward leading the H.E.A.L Together Initiative, providing organizing models and trainings for caregivers, teachers, and students to advocate for high quality public education as an essential building block of multiracial democracy. James shares about his organizing work, and what caregivers can do to push back against bad-faith narratives and act to support a fully funded, honest, accurate public education for all kids.
58 min
41
Examining Anti-Blackness: A Multiracial Parent ...
Val and Andrew sit down with two parents, one Latina and one Asian American, to reflect on what it means to address anti-Blackness, their own racial identity, their own educational experiences, and the impact it all has on their parenting choices.
63 min
42
Unpacking the Racial Hierarchy in School Choices
A professor of sociology at UT Austin, Dr Chantal Hailey studies how micro decision-making contributes to larger macro segregation patterns and how racism creates, sustains, and exacerbates racial, educational, and socioeconomic inequality. Her study complicates and expands the Black/White binary, and it is essential for the conversations we need to be having in order to dismantle anti-Black racism.
67 min
43
The Debrief: Carol Anderson on White Rage
Last episode, Carol Anderson on White Rage, was a lot, so we're taking today's episode to discuss.
31 min
44
Carol Anderson on White Rage
"Since the days of enslavement, African Americans have fought to gain access to quality education. Education can be transformative. Education strengthens a democracy." - Dr. Carol Anderson, author of White Rage joins us to discuss the White rage backlash to the Brown v. Board decision, and how we are still living with its impacts.
66 min
45
A Framework for Antiracist Education
The Center for Antiracist Education (CARE) has released a framework to support educators with the will and knowledge to end racism’s destructive legacy. Val’s day job is as their academic director. We’re joined by her colleague, Brittany Brazzel to discuss the framework and how we can all take steps towards antiracism.
54 min
46
An Overdue Reckoning on Indigenous Education
Dr. Susan Faircloth, an enrolled member of the Coharie Tribe, and a professor of education at Colorado State University joins us for a long overdue conversation on Indigenous education. Going deep into history, Dr. Faircloth ties past struggles to the current realities for the more than 650,000 Native students in our public schools today.
63 min
47
Revisiting Heather McGhee on How Racism Hurts U...
The idea of a zero-sum version of prosperity that assumes advances for some must come at the cost of others, is based on the lie of racial hierarchy upon which our country was founded. Heather McGhee's book, The Sum of Us, illuminates this issue, and calls us to imagine something better. The paperback version was released today, so we are revisiting the episode with new commentary from Andrew and Val.
65 min
48
Parenting for Racial Justice
Chrissy Colón Bradt is an Afro-Latina mother of 2, married to a White man. She has thought a lot about how to support her kids in their own racial identity development. She is the co-author of the Parenting for Racial Justice chapter in the new book, Parenting for Social Justice. She joins us to discuss.
56 min
49
Year End: Listener Questions
As we come to the end of 2021, Val and Andrew answer listener questions.
54 min
50
Teacher Check-In Revisited
Despite a feeling of normalcy around schools this year, teachers are screaming that the crisis is not over. For many, this school year is the hardest yet in the COVID era. We revisit a conversation with teachers from April of 2020 and provide some updated perspectives.
49 min