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The elites used to control the narrative. Now? The public is revolting and the elites are panicking. How did we get here? This week on Truth Over Tribe, Keith talks with former CIA analyst Martin Gurri to find out. Gurri published a book in 2014, "The Revolt of the Public," where he correctly predicted the cultural chaos we have been experiencing the past few years. Today, he and Keith dissect what has gotten us to this point: What caused the narrative shift away from the elites? Why has the public lost trust in institutions? And most importantly, is there any way institutions can repair this lack of trust? Tune in now!
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Should We Trust Our Institutions? with Yuval Levin
In such a polarizing climate, trusting our leaders and institutions has become difficult. Many feel repeatedly failed by institutions, leaving a crisis in authority. So, where do we go from here? This week, Keith sits down with one of today's most influential conservative intellectuals, Yuval Levin, to find out. Yuval is the Director of Social, Cultural, and Constitutional Studies at the American Enterprise Institute and the author of several books, including "A Time to Build," which speaks to this issue. Learn why he believes that repairing our trust in institutions is the start to reviving the American dream.
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Why is America Obsessed with Outsiders?
America loves outsiders. See: Donald Trump, Barack Obama, AOC. But why? In this third installment of our series on celebrity culture, Keith and Patrick discuss how outsiderism developed in the US and how it's now infiltrating the church. They consider how access to information has led to a loss of institutional credibility, fostering an anti-institutional era and paving the way for outsiders to thrive. Plus, how should Christians respond? Listen now!
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O Say, Can You Stand? with NBA Forward Jonathan...
Remember the name, Jonathan Isaac, from back in 2020? Isaac was the lone NBA player not to kneel for the national anthem amid a league-wide demonstration in support of Black Lives Matter following George Floyd's death. In today's episode, Keith sits down with him to discuss this decision and other revelations from his recent book, "Why I Stand." Hear Isaac open up about his past mental health struggles with anxiety and how he ultimately found freedom in Christ by way of the people God put in his path. Plus, what's it really like to be a Christian in the NBA? Find out!
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FAQs on the Overturning of Roe v. Wade
On June 24, 2022, the Supreme Court officially overturned Roe v. Wade, ending 50 years of federal abortion rights. This decision has generated celebration for pro-lifers, fury for pro-choicers, and confusion for many, including Christians. In today's bonus episode, Patrick and Keith tackle your most challenging questions related to this historic decision. Hear them address FAQs such as: Won't women just pursue illegal abortions now? What about abortions to save women's lives? What about cases of rape and incest? What happens now regarding contraception and IVF? Legally, should SCOTUS really have overturned 50 years of precedent? Listen as they explain why it all really comes down to one question: Is the unborn a person?
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Who Created Celebrity Christian Culture? You Did.
Welcome to the second, spicy installment in our series on celebrity pastors! In the first episode, Keith and Patrick used Hillsong Church as a case study to show the cyclical process of celebrity church culture. This week, we're looking back to discover who's to blame. How did the church get here to begin with? Spoiler alert: It all started when the church became democratized and power transferred to the hands of "we the people." This episode is packed with context! We discuss the Reformation, the formation of denominations, the skepticism of institutions, the rise of anti-intellectualism, the influence of the suburbs, and what happens when celebrity Christian leaders position themselves beyond accountability. Plus, how we can end the celebrity church culture we helped to create? Listen now!
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Who Was the Real Jane Roe? with Joshua Prager
You may not know the name, Norma McCorvey, but you definitely know the name, Jane Roe, AKA one-half of Roe v. Wade. In today's episode, Keith talks with author, Joshua Prager, to discover who the real Jane Roe really was. The two go beyond the moral, philosophical, and theological arguments associated with abortion and discuss the people involved behind one of the most contentious debates in modern America. Joshua shares insights from his recently published book, "The Family Roe: An American Story," a project backed by ten years of research that seeks to humanize the infamous SCOTUS case. Plus, what does he believe will happen if Roe v. Wade is overturned? Listen now!
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Would You Wear an LGBTQ+ Pride Patch? An Interv...
Tampa Bay Rays pitcher, Jason Adam, and four of his teammates opted not to wear LGBTQ+ pride patches on the Rays' "Pride Night." In the week that followed, Jason Adam was called a bigot by other players, the sports media, and plenty of MLB fans. In this episode, Keith talks with Jason about why he made his decision and explores how Christians can be faithful to Jesus' sexual ethic without acting hateful toward those who disagree.
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Here I Am To Worship (My Celebrity Pastor)
America loves celebrity culture, but how did the church get there too? This week on Truth Over Tribe, you'll hear the first in our new series on celebrity pastors. In this episode, Patrick and Keith discuss Carl Lentz and Hillsong Church as a case study, dissecting why we love witnessing the creation and dissolution of celebrity pastors and churches. Later, they explore the cyclical process of celebrity church culture: how Christians demand it and how the media then creates celebrities, consumes them, and ultimately, builds public distrust in the local church. Listen now!
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When Culture Cancels You with Mumford & Sons’ W...
Mum's the word? Well, not for Winston Marshall. This week, the Mumford & Sons' former banjoist joins Patrick to discuss his cancel culture experience that all stemmed from a single tweet. Hear Marshall share on this complex journey that ultimately caused him to leave the band. Plus, where does he stand now? What role has his faith played in it all? And does he regret his decision (or the tweet that started it)? Listen now as he and Patrick dissect cancel culture and discuss why we must reclaim the role of forgiveness.
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"I Left My Lesbian Lover for Jesus" with Rosari...
This week's guest on Truth Over Tribe is Rosaria Butterfield, a former English Professor at Syracuse University who was once in a long-term lesbian relationship. Rosaria is now a follower of Jesus and her passion for radical hospitality makes that evident. Today, she joins Keith to discuss how she began following Jesus and how hospitable relationships played a vital role in her conversion to Christianity. She challenges Keith by sharing why she believes that homosexual desires should always be getting smaller in the life of a believer. Tune in now!
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The Southern Baptist Convention: Why Sexual Abu...
Our hearts break for the victims of sexual abuse in the SBC, knowing that many of them could have spared. It’s time to mourn with victims, not protect abusers and the abusive systems that protect them. In this episode, Patrick and Keith go into detail about the SBC sexual abuse report and explore what needs to change in evangelicalism to protect victims and survivors, hold past abusers accountable, and stop future abusers from stepping into pulpits.
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Overturning Roe v. Wade: What Does the Bible Sa...
With the potential overturning of Roe v. Wade on the horizon, it's likely you've been hearing a lot about abortion lately. In today's bonus episode, Keith and Patrick sit down to discuss this complicated and sensitive issue through the lens of scripture and in light of our current cultural moment. What does the Bible say about abortion? What will happen if Roe v. Wade is overturned? And what does all of this mean for the future of the pro-life and pro-choice movements? Listen now as Keith and Patrick navigate these very questions.
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Woke Media Hypocrisy with Batya Ungar-Sargon
This week's guest on Truth Over Tribe is Batya Ungar-Sargon, Deputy Opinion Editor of Newsweek and writer of Bad News: How Woke Media is Undermining Democracy. A self-identifying socialist, Batya shares the importance of the working class and how the goal of socialism is to be on their side. In this episode, she and Keith discuss socialism, toxicity in the media, and how cultural Marxism differs from economic socialism. Tune in now!
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Is Self-Care a False Gospel?
This week on Truth Over Tribe, Patrick and Keith go head-to-head with one of the loudest messages in our culture today: self-care and wellness. They discuss this phenomenon from a few different viewpoints and explain why self-care is so marketable and widely accepted in American culture. They look at the scientific, consumeristic, and intuitional approaches to how people today view self-care and personal wellness and how this concept has even infiltrated the church. But should Christians be buying into this movement? Or is self-care actually a false gospel? Listen now!
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A Christian Take on Elon Musk's Twitter Takeove...
You've probably seen more than a few memes poking fun at progressives for declaring Twitter's sale the apocalypse. Conversely, some conservatives seem to think Elon will usher in the kingdom of God... or at the very least usher Trump back on to his ex-favorite platform. We're all wondering: are Elon's proposed changes the path to paradise or hell? To help us unpack that question, Patrick interviews Chris Martin, a leading Christian expert on social media, and the author of Terms of Service: The Real Cost of Social Media. He offers a sober, cautiously optimistic take on what might happen. This is a conversation you don't want to miss.
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What God Says About Your Body with Sam Allberry
This week's guest on Truth Over Tribe is Sam Allberry, a writer and a pastor, who joins Keith to discuss our relationship with our bodies. Sam's most recent book, What God Has to Say About Our Bodies, answers many of the questions we wrestle with today. Their discussion covers stereotypes of masculinity and feminity, how we psychologically and physically perceive ourselves (and which takes precedence), and how the Bible brings good news for our bodies. Listen now!
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DEBATE: What Does the Bible REALLY Say About War?
Today on Truth Over Tribe, we're bringing you the final episode in our Just War vs. Non-Violence 3-part series. If you haven't listened to the first two episodes, go back and listen now: The Biblical Theology of Violence + Should Christians Go To War?. In this episode, we finally get the debate we've been waiting for! Keith and Patrick ask each other clarifying questions about their respective positions: Keith on defending just war and Patrick on non-violence. Which is closest to what the Bible actually says about war? Tune in now!
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Should Christians Go To War?
Today on Truth Over Tribe, we're bringing the second episode in a 3-part series about just war and non-violence. In the first episode, we covered the biblical theology of violence (go back and listen if you haven't already!). This episode features Keith's and Patrick's steel man arguments on just war vs. non-violence. The final episode will end with a debate between the two. Today, you'll hear Keith and Patrick each present their steel man arguments. Patrick's position is for Christian non-violence, which he describes as different from pacifism. He defends his stance by answering the question, "What does the Bible actually say about war?" Keith, then, makes a biblical case for just war, stating that it seeks to protect innocent third parties from gross injustice. Keith presents his argument with four key questions that a government should ask themselves before deciding to go to war. Tune in now!
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The Biblical Theology of Violence
In this episode of Truth Over Tribe, we're bringing the first in a 3-part series about just war and non-violence. This series will cover the biblical theology of violence, Keith's and Patrick's steel man arguments on just war vs. non-violence, and will end with a debate between the two. Today, you'll hear Keith and Patrick go through what the Bible has to say about violence, discussing the first examples of human-on-human violence, themes we see from prophets, and how messages from different periods in the Bible vary from others. Tune in for a deep dive into the theology of violence and gear up for Keith and Patrick's debate coming in the following episode.
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Building a Multiethnic Church with Sean Boone
On this week's episode of Truth Over Tribe, Keith sits down with Sean Boone, a church planter in one of the most racially divided cities in America: Ferguson, Missouri. He and Keith get into what it means to be a multiethnic church and how his church's goal isn't simply integration; it's a lifestyle of assimilation. Boone tells us his incredible story: his life before following Christ, how his mother going to prison affected him, his life in the drug and gang culture, and his eventual "come to Jesus" moment. Hear him share his perspective on building a multiethnic church in a predominantly white denomination and learn how you can help this life-changing cause.
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The Bachelor's Clayton Echard: Faith, Sex, and ...
Our most dramatic episode yet! 🌹 Can we steal you for a second? What happens when Clayton Echard, ABC's most recent Bachelor, sits down with his former pastor?! Although it's the first time Keith and Clayton have officially met, you'll hear Clayton get honest about his faith, premarital sex and the fantasy suites, following his heart, and what it's really like behind the scenes on a reality dating show. Plus, does Clayton see himself as irreparably damaged from all of the post-show drama? No topic is off-limits, so buckle up. The journey starts ... right now!
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The (De)Meaning of Marriage in the New York Times
Does our society really need marriage after all? Can't couples who want to spend the rest of their lives together just cohabitate? And can't co-parenting outside of marriage work just fine for kids? It's obvious that the concept of marriage has shifted quite a bit over the years (even within the church). And the truth is that if we continue to redefine it, we risk losing the tremendous value marriage provides to society. In this episode, Patrick, Keith, and Dan discuss the ways in which our culture has redefined and demeaned the institution of marriage. Citing examples from recent articles in The New York Times, they call out the elite's hypocritical motives behind their agenda. Tune in now!
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Aimee Byrd: Does Christian Culture Sell Women S...
Have you ever felt that Christian culture sells women short by undervaluing their calling and not allowing them to fully utilize their gifts? Do phrases like "women's role in the Church" get under your skin? You're not alone. Today, Patrick talks with Aimee Byrd to explore this very topic. Aimee, the author of Recovering from Biblical Manhood and Womanhood, shares her theology and how the Church's teaching on gender often negatively affects Christians. Aimee also helps us understand what she means by "gynocentric interruptions" and why this is crucial to forming a more biblically sound theology of gender.
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NFTs for N00bs
What the heck are NFTs?! What does one do with an NFT? Are they worth all the hype? If you've ever found yourself asking these questions, this episode is for you, n00bie! Today, Patrick and Keith dive into the world of NFTs and the blockchain to help you better understand this new digital frontier. Patrick breaks it all down in Layman's terms (for which Keith is thankful!), leading the two to have a well-rounded, ethical conversation about how we as Christians should approach the digital world.