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1
Overthinking is Costing You 6-Figures
If you've been stuck in analysis paralysis or recycling the same results year after year, this episode is your permission slip to start before you're ready.
56 min
2
Reading Market Trends Like a Pro: How to Turn D...
Ready to stop sounding like every other agent and start closing more deals? This episode shows you exactly how to read the room, use the data, and convert conversations into contracts.
33 min
3
Recruiting Systems That Actually Convert (Witho...
This episode breaks down the unglamorous reality of starting from scratch: building systems before recruiting a single agent, defining your value proposition in a sea of sameness, and using targeted digital marketing to attract mid-level producers ready to scale.
41 min
4
REPLAY: Be Willing to Suck First: Why You Can’t...
The journey of getting better as a business owner, and a person for that matter, involves a lot of humbling moments, learning curves, curiosity and a ton of improvements.
69 min
5
REPLAY: The Brutally Simple Reason Why You’re N...
How do we overcome the Fear of Finding Out? What’s so powerful about getting in rooms with smart people? 
47 min
6
REPLAY: Brokerages Are Biggest Lie in Real Esta...
People think working 80+ hours a week is a badge of honor, it’s a badge of stupidity. -Mitch Ribak 
26 min
7
REPLAY: Stop Being An Optimist: The DNA of a Do...
Curtis Johnson shares the key strategy to winning in this market. 
34 min
8
How to Close More Real Estate While Working Les...
In this episode, we break down the systems, mindset shifts, and tactical strategies that allowed Nolan to increase his dollar-per-hour while actually working less. From turning away nightmare clients to building a social media presence that generated 3 million views in 10 weeks, this conversation challenges everything you think you know about what it takes to win in real estate right now.
55 min
9
Productivity Principles That Change Everything
In this solo episode, Kevin breaks down five core productivity principles from a powerful conversation led by his business partner and Place co-founder, Ben Kinney.
12 min
10
How to Stop Wasting Your Money at Real Estate C...
If you're planning to attend any conference in 2026, listen to this episode first. It could save you thousands and transform how you approach professional development.
44 min
11
Momentum: The Daily Habits That Drive a Strong ...
What separates top-producing real estate agents from those who struggle? It's not talent, market conditions, or even how hard you work. It's momentum. And most agents are accidentally killing their own without even realizing it.
11 min
12
Rebuilding a Real Estate Business from Zero Wit...
If you've ever felt like you're running from something instead of building toward something, this episode will challenge everything you think you know about success in real estate.
37 min
13
Stop Marketing Like Everyone Else (Build a Stra...
If you've ever felt overwhelmed by the pressure to be everywhere online, this conversation will give you permission to subtract and the framework to focus on what moves the needle.
32 min
14
Stop Recruiting, Start Attracting
Think growing a brokerage means chasing agents with better commission splits? Think again. If you're tired of chasing talent, burned out from grinding for volume with no profit, or stuck wondering why your vision isn't attracting the people you want—this episode will change how you think about building a real estate business.
44 min
15
Addition vs. Subtraction: The Surprising Path t...
The agents who win in this market aren't the ones doing the most things. They're the ones doing the right things with relentless focus.
9 min
16
The Introvert's $20M Blueprint: How to Build Ma...
If you've ever felt like you're not extroverted enough, not "salesy" enough, or not flashy enough to make it big in real estate, this episode will completely reframe how you think about building sustainable, high-volume production.
36 min
17
Personal Transformation is the Foundation for E...
This episode isn't about fitness tips or motivational fluff. It's about the uncomfortable truth most agents refuse to confront: your business is only as strong as the foundation it's built on. And that foundation is you.
16 min
18
How One Video Generated $20M in Luxury Real Est...
In this episode, guest host Katie DeWitt sits down with Tristan to break down how he's built a 70-agent team under the Coast brand at eXp, expanded into five separate "legs" of leadership, and used strategic video marketing to turn California movie producers and out-of-state buyers into multi-million dollar clients—all while maintaining that physical office space matters, even in a virtual brokerage world.
37 min
19
Why Great Salespeople Fail as Team Leaders (And...
In this episode, Kevin sits down with Matt Smith, a team leader who sold 74 homes his first full year in real estate and now leads 40 agents closing 700 deals annually across three Missouri locations. But the journey from top producer to successful team leader nearly destroyed him multiple times.
38 min
20
Communication Skills That Close Deals: 6 Questi...
If you've ever lost a deal because of how you said something—or didn't say it at all—this episode will change how you approach every conversation from here on out.
37 min
21
How LeAnne Weathers Moved 160 Agents to eXp in ...
If you've ever avoided making a move because you were worried about offending someone or upsetting the status quo, this conversation will challenge you to rethink what real leadership actually looks like.
24 min
22
Distraction Is Killing Your Business with Curti...
If you're tired of dabbling and ready to dominate, Curtis lays out exactly what separates producers from pretenders. No fluff. No BS. Just 26 years of battle-tested wisdom.
51 min
23
How 20 Daily Conversations Will Change Your Bus...
This episode will either fire you up or make you uncomfortable. Probably both.
31 min
24
Brian Gubernick On Upping Your Self-Awareness, ...
In our industry, the word mastermind gets thrown around a lot, but what most people call masterminds are actually just classes. To be clear, there’s obviously a time and a place for lessons and being talked at, but that’s not what masterminds are designed for. 
46 min
25
Why We Joined Place: An Unmatchable Value Propo...
We believe that it would have been irresponsible not to join Place, especially with where real estate is headed. We believe in Place’s system and what Ben Kinney and Chris Suarez are doing - it’s the right way to operate a real estate team today, and it would be hard for any team to top or even match what they are bringing to the table.
44 min