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The market always changes. The mistake most agents make is believing whatever market they're in right now is permanent. It isn't. The agents who got licensed in 2020 rode low rates and easy appreciation, then watched a shift expose every weak habit they'd been able to hide. So how do you build a business that still works when everything changes? In this one, Kevin Kauffman walks through eight principles to market-proof your business. These aren't tricks or tactics for one season. They're operating standards that hold up in every market, easy or hard.
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7 Business Lessons Every Real Estate Agent Need...
What if the reason you're stuck has nothing to do with the market and everything to do with the stories you keep telling yourself? You don't need a new CRM, a new lead source, or one more class. Most of the time you need fewer distractions, more focus, and the willingness to do the boring work long enough for it to pay off. This one is simple on purpose. No hype, no shiny systems. Just seven lessons from a mentor early in my career that shaped how I think about business, leadership, and the life I'm trying to build. They've stuck with me for years, and the older I get the more true they feel.
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If It's Lasted Six Months, It's a You Problem
Most agents think transformation is a moment: the big win, the award, the closing that changes everything. It isn't. It's the quiet, daily work nobody claps for. In this conversation, Brandon Snyder and Erik Kelly get into what it actually takes to become the person your goals require, and why the standards you hold (for yourself and the people around you) shape everything else.
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Your Lowest Moments Are Often Building Your Gre...
This solo episode digs into one of the most uncomfortable truths in business and life — that your greatest growth rarely comes from your wins. It comes from the moments that humbled you, broke you down, and made you question whether you'd make it. Those are the exact moments quietly building the next version of you.
12 min
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The Power of Underthinking
In this solo episode, Kevin breaks down a concept he picked up from his friend Dustin Runyon: underthinking. Not recklessness. Not carelessness. Just shrinking the gap between idea and execution so you can actually build the business you keep planning to build.
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I Don't Have Time
Every agent says it eventually: "I just don't have enough time." But the agents crushing it in your market have the exact same 24 hours you do. So what's the actual difference? In this solo episode, Kevin breaks down a conversation he had with Chris Suarez from PLACE that reframes the whole "time" conversation and exposes the real culprit behind most agents stalling out.
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10 Controversial Truths About Success & Failure...
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Stop Tweaking the System (The Boring Playbook B...
This week's episode is a little different — and that's the point. While Kevin and the crew were out of town, Dustin Runyon stepped in to host the weekly eXp mastermind, with Kody Weitzel joining to break down exactly how he's on track to close 240+ deals and $72 million in volume this year. It was too good to keep behind closed doors, so we're sharing the full conversation here.
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Truth Lives in the Tension: The Leadership Skil...
In this solo episode, Kevin Kauffman breaks down why the agents people keep choosing aren't the most impressive ones in the room. They're the ones who make everyone else feel like the most impressive ones in the room.
8 min
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The 6 Invisible Biases That Are Quietly Costing...
Most of the bad decisions you've made in your business didn't happen because you didn't have enough information. They happened because of how your brain processed the information. In this episode, Kevin breaks down the difference between your fast brain and your slow brain, and why most agents are running their entire business in reaction mode without even knowing it.
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Talk Less, Win More Listings (or Recruits or Re...
Here's a question worth sitting with this week. Do you want to be interesting? Or do you want to make people feel interesting?
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The Stupid Zone (Why Smart Real Estate Agents K...
Some of the worst decisions you'll ever make in your business won't come from a lack of knowledge. You'll already know better. You'll just make the call in the wrong state of mind. T
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How to Handle Every Objection, Every Expired, a...
Most agents think the market is what's holding them back. Or interest rates. Or the latest industry shake-up. Lucas Sherraden has news for you — it's none of those things. It's the story you keep telling yourself about all of them.
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Clarity Beats Motivation Every Time
If you've ever watched someone leave an event on cloud nine and then quietly drift back to old habits by Wednesday, this episode explains exactly why that happens — and what to do instead.
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They Heard You, But They Didn't Feel You
If you've ever felt frustrated that your agents, your clients, or your team "just aren't getting it" — this one's for you. The problem probably isn't them.
8 min
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It’s Not What You Say, It’s When You Say It
In this solo episode, Kevin breaks down the communication shift that separates average agents from the ones people actually want to follow.
10 min
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The World Isn’t What You Think… And It’s Costin...
Most agents aren't losing because the market is bad. They're losing because their view of the market is distorted — and they don't know it. In this solo episode, Kevin Kauffman breaks down the psychology of misperception: why we default to worst-case thinking, how that drives bad decisions, and what it actually takes to see clearly in a chaotic market.
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Next Level Truth #5: Most Agents Are Addicted t...
Kevin breaks down the hidden cost of staying comfortable, why burnout isn't from working too hard, and what separates high performers from everyone else grinding through the motions.
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Next Level Truth #4: Discipline Beats Talent
Talent is overrated. There. We said it. In this episode of Next Level Truths, Kevin Kauffman breaks down one of the most misunderstood dynamics in real estate: why consistency will always outperform natural ability, and why most agents are chasing the wrong thing when they wait for motivation to show up before they take action.
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Next Level Truth #3: Your Calendar Is Your Busi...
If your business isn't where you want it to be, the answer isn't a new strategy or a new tool. Open your calendar. That's where the truth lives.
15 min
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More Deals, More Freedom (Building a Real Estat...
In this episode, Kevin Kauffman sits down with Dave to pull back the curtain on exactly how that system works, from the drip videos that generate listing appointments on autopilot, to the VA-managed CRM pipeline that moves buyers from first call to offer without Dave ever showing a house. If you've ever thought about hiring a virtual assistant but weren't sure how to make it actually work, this conversation is the one you've been waiting for.
48 min
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Next Level Truth #2: Your Database Is the Business
In this episode, Kevin Kauffman breaks down Next Level Truth #2: your database is your business. Not your CRM. Not your marketing plan. Not your brand. Your relationships. And if you shift the way you think about the people already in your world, it changes everything about how you build — and sustain — a real estate career.
13 min
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Next Level Truths (Part 1): You Don't Have a Le...
Most agents think they need more leads. Kevin Kauffman is here to tell you that's almost never the real problem. In the first episode of the new Next Level Truths series, Kevin breaks down one of the most recurring patterns he sees across agents at every level — and why fixing it doesn't require a new CRM, a new lead source, or a new strategy.
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Second Year Superstar: Burning Your Backup Plan
This episode is for every agent sitting on the fence, keeping a backup plan "just in case," or wondering if it's too late to build something real. Andrew's story proves it's not about how long you've been in the game — it's about how seriously you take it from day one.
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The Beginners Guide to Podcasting: How To Get S...
In today’s special episode of Next Level Agents, we’re putting our very own podcast producer, Sarah Heeter in the hot seat! As podcasting continues to explode, you’ve probably wondered if you need to start your own, what you would make your podcast about, and if you need to be a super tech nerd to launch. Sarah is here to answer these questions, and more, and provide a roadmap for turning your podcast idea into a reality.