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Productivity is Bankrupting You: What's Working...
The coaching world is screaming "work harder" during this market shift, but what if working harder is actually making you broker? EK and Chelsea Wright drop truth bombs about why your busy work isn't paying your bills and what actually moves the needle when you need revenue now.
23 min
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How to Sell 300+ Homes in 4 Years by Refusing t...
Stop blending in with every other agent posting the same content and hosting the same tired events. In this game-changing episode, Mandy Wilson reveals how she sold over 300 homes in just four years by doing something radical: she stopped trying to impress people with her success and started impressing them with her service.
18 min
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The Comarketing Revolution That's Making Regula...
In this episode, Grant Wise reveals how agents are transforming from house sellers into business empire builders by monetizing the influence they already possess. This isn't about working harder or finding new clients—it's about finally getting paid for the value you're already creating.
28 min
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The Sponge Mentality: How Curiosity and Cold Ca...
In this episode, Kevin Kauffman sits down with Ari Jakobov, a Phoenix-based real estate powerhous
33 min
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The Truth About Why 70% of Real Estate Agents F...
This episode is essential listening for agents at all levels who want to build a business that's both profitable and sustainable through changing market conditions.
38 min
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Why Real Estate Pros Should Help Renters and Re...
In this episode of Next Level Agents, Kevin Kauffman sits down with industry thought leader Rob Hahn to discuss a provocative idea that challenges the very foundation of what it means to be a realtor. Starting with a controversial tweet suggesting realtors should help low-income renters pro bono, the conversation expands into a bold examination of the housing affordability crisis and how real estate professionals should respond.
35 min
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Break Your Patterns, Explode Your Pipeline: Why...
This candid conversation challenges everything you think you know about growing a sustainable real estate business and offers a refreshing perspective on what it really takes to break through to your next level.
24 min
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Breaking Free From Hustle Culture: How Nolan Ru...
In this eye-opening episode, Kevin Kauffman sits down with Nolan Rucker to explore how he transformed from a reluctant second-generation real estate agent into a business owner who challenges the traditional "always hustling" model. Nolan shares his unconventional approach to mentorship, client selection, and business design that allows him to work less, earn more, and enjoy a quality of life most agents only dream about.
33 min
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Why Most Real Estate Coaches Are Wrong About Wo...
In this eye-opening conversation, Chelsea Wright and Katie DeWitt challenge the conventional wisdom about work-life balance in real estate. Instead of pursuing the myth of perfect equilibrium, they reveal how embracing distinct "seasons" in your business can lead to greater productivity, fulfillment, and sustainable success without the burnout.
31 min
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Turning Ordinary Moments Into Extraordinary Rea...
Are you playing real estate on hard mode when you could be playing on easy mode? In this game-changing conversation, Shane Parrish, author of "Clear Thinking," reveals how the success of top-performing agents isn't determined by how they handle obvious decisions, but by the seemingly insignificant "ordinary moments" they navigate daily.
58 min
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Bold Strategies Real Estate Agents Are Using to...
What does the next level truly look like for successful real estate agents? In this candid roundtable episode, the Next Level Agents crew—Kevin Kauffman, Brittini Bowers, Chelsea Wright, Katie DeWitt, and Erik Kelly—get real about the bold strategies they're implementing to break through plateaus and reach new heights in their businesses and lives.
22 min
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From Selling to Building Wealth: How Christin K...
Start building your own wealth instead of just facilitating it for others. Learn how to create a "Family Banking Blueprint" that transforms commission income into lasting financial freedom.
36 min
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Small Daily Actions Create Massive Real Estate ...
This episode will challenge you to identify your own consistency play and give you practical strategies for implementing it in your business immediately. Whether you're struggling with consistency or looking to leverage it more effectively, this conversation provides the blueprint for using this powerful principle to take your business to the next level.
49 min
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Stop Marketing Yourself: How Creating an Irresi...
This episode will make you rethink everything about how you position yourself in the marketplace and provide a blueprint for creating your own irresistible program that makes competition irrelevant.
56 min
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Top Performers Show Up While Others Make Excuse...
Whether you're a new agent seeking the right foundation or an experienced professional looking to break through your current ceiling, this episode provides the uncomfortable truths and actionable insights needed to elevate your business to its next level.
66 min
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Brokerages Are Biggest Lie in Real Estate, Buil...
What if we could aspire to a business model that gave us freedom, leverage and more money? What if you could do away with the things that make owning a brokerage so difficult? Mitch Riback did just that and created a model that allows owners to keep more income, have less overhead and responsibility over agents and way more freedom.
26 min
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REPLAY: Shonna Ruble On The “Smack-in-the-Face”...
The great thing about this business is you can build it, find out you built it all wrong, burn it all down, start over and build it right. You can regain the vision and start doing it in alignment with what matters to you. It’s certainly not an easy thing to do, but following through on it is worth it. It gives us a business that puts pressure on the things that really move the needle and nothing else. Shonna Ruble shares her own path through this process, from realizing it was built wrong to building it right in a new city and becoming the top team there.
44 min
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The Easy-Button Market is Over…Do This If You W...
Mastering the basics of running a solid real estate business is the only way to outlast all the shifts and changes. If you came into the business and immediately started taking shortcuts, you just won’t be able to hack it in the skills-based market we’re in right now.
36 min
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Critique Yourself More: The Secret to Getting B...
Speaker, coach and author, Ronnie Doss returns to talk about his new book Colossal Considerations and the formula for success.
42 min
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The Most Important Skill Agents Need to Have Ri...
One of the key skills of a great salesperson is negotiation, but for the last decade, real estate agents could get away with no having it. Deals were so easy to put together, we didn’t have to fine tune our persuasion and communication abilities. Many agents have never had to do deep negotiation. Even veteran agents who came up in tougher markets need to brush up on that skill too.
22 min
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Why It’s Hard to Run a Real Estate Business in ...
What factors are making real estate so tough? How can leaders navigate these challenges? In this episode, multiple guest Frank Klesitz returns. The CEO of Vyral Marketing and Klesitz Direct shares what he’s hearing from agents across the country, and why it’s harder to sell homes right now.
45 min
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REPLAY: Unlocking the Secrets of Database Turno...
In today’s episode, I’m joined by Bob Stewart of community evangelist at Place Inc, and Active Rain before that. Bob’s got a cool story - he’s been in and around real estate for many years. He was a pioneer in real estate blogging, and community building, and also understanding how to drive traffic to websites in the days before Google dominated everything. Bob comes from a place of contribution, and I even remember the days he’d call ActiveRain clients to help them out with marketing, 14 years later. He’s truly a genius at building and growing communities around businesses and now he’s brought his skills to PLACE.
57 min
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REPLAY: Think Differently with Brian Gubernick
Life is about counterbalance - there are times we’ll have to be in the extreme in certain areas, the key is not to stay in the extreme too long. How long can you be in something until other areas start to suffer and/or deteriorate?
68 min
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Potluck Recruiting: How to Grow Through Communi...
What misconceptions keep people from the wins of recruiting? How do we bring leverage to our recruiting? Today, I’m joined by Chris Bowers for an in-depth conversation on recruiting and the easiest way to recruit.
51 min
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Focus on The Billion Dollar Idea and Dump Every...
For Andrew Abernathey, concentrating on one idea allowed his business to ramp up to $250 million in a very short space of time. At one point, he was involved in a slew of random areas. It took losing a ton of money for him to realize that he didn’t know who he was or what exactly he was good at, and that’s why he was trying everything. That was the major turning point that made him think about his billion dollar idea and let go of everything else. The effect of his concentration can be seen in his results, and it’s something all entrepreneurs should think about.