Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Business
Technology
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How chatbots — and their makers — are enabling ...
New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill on AI psychosis, user delusions, and teen safety
45 min
102
How brands and creators are fighting for your a...
Guest host Hank Green and Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi go deep on digital marketing, AI, and the influencer versus creator debate.
56 min
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Sierra CEO Bret Taylor on why the AI bubble fee...
The OpenAI Chairman, now working on agents at his new startup Sierra, on why he’s all in on AI.
46 min
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Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy educa...
The CEO of Khan Academy and guest host Hank Green on online education and what AI assistants can really do for learning.
59 min
105
The quest to keep OpenAI honest
Why EyesOnOpenAI is pushing the AI giant to benefit humanity instead of chase profits
35 min
106
Rewind: Bookshop CEO's crusade to save books fr...
62 min
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Is ChatGPT killing higher education?
52 min
108
Amazon is betting on agents to win the AI race
Why Amazon AGI Labs chief David Luan thinks solving agents is the next ‘S-curve’ for AI.
49 min
109
How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO
Steph 'Kepano' Ango on why productivity tools need community more than they need AI
50 min
110
ChatGPT chief Nick Turley doesn't want you too ...
The head of ChatGPT on AI attachment, ads, and what’s next.
50 min
111
Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from yo...
Ivan Zhao on productivity, LEGO, and what he learned from Kyoto’s craft tradition.
51 min
112
GitHub's CEO says AI coding is ‘here to stay’
The head of GitHub on Copilot, vibe coding, and what's next for AI.
56 min
113
Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding
Anysphere CEO Michael Truell and guest host Casey Newton discuss Cursor AI and the future of programming.
51 min
114
Why AI researchers are getting paid like NBA Al...
The Verge’s Hayden Field breaks down the AI talent war.
35 min
115
Can we ever trust an AI lawyer?
Robin AI CEO Richard Robinson on hallucinations, facts versus truth, and how lawyers are using AI today.
52 min
116
We are not ready for better deepfakes
Captions CEO Gaurav Misra discusses his company’s alarming new deepfake report, and what to watch out for as the technology advances.
52 min
117
Why tech billionaires want a ‘corporate dictato...
Guest host Jon Fortt and The Nerd Reich author Gil Duran discuss the Dark Enlightenment and the rise of tech authoritarianism.
58 min
118
Perplexity CEO on why the browser is AI's kille...
Aravind Srinivas on Perplexity’s new Comet browser, competing with OpenAI and Meta, and what AI might look like three years from now.
45 min
119
How decision making will change when AI answers...
Guest host Jon Fortt sits down with Cassie Kozyrkov, former chief decision scientist at Google, to discuss the intersection of AI and decision science.
59 min
120
Inside the AI startup frenzy: ‘Everyone’s pivot...
A chat with Meanng founder Ellis Hamburger about the ethical vacuum in AI and what founders aren’t saying publicly.
44 min
121
How SharkNinja took over the home
CEO Mark Barrocas on grilling, product design, and the future of viral marketing.
79 min
122
Why Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg went to war o...
Breaking down the ongoing open source drama surrounding WordPress, and what’s next for Automattic.
66 min
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Hinge CEO Justin McLeod says dating AI chatbots...
The cofounder of Hinge on AI, monetization, and the future of online dating.
59 min
124
Monopoly isn’t a game (with Lina Khan)
An episode from our friends at Stay Tuned with Preet featuring former FTC Chair Lina Khan.
56 min
125
Taskrabbit CEO Ania Smith isn’t afraid of AI ro...
The head of the IKEA-owned worker platform on the future of labor.
63 min