Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Technology
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Ford CEO Jim Farley on China, tariffs, and the ...
Guest host Joanna Stern and the head of Ford discuss Apple CarPlay Ultra, competing with BYD, and what car she should lease next.
59 min
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How AI safety took a backseat to military money
AI firms are now working with weapons makers and the military. Here’s what that means. 
38 min
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Dropout CEO Sam Reich on business, comedy, and ...
“Never break trois.”
61 min
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How chatbots — and their makers — are enabling ...
New York Times reporter Kashmir Hill on AI psychosis, user delusions, and teen safety
45 min
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How brands and creators are fighting for your a...
Guest host Hank Green and Digitas CEO Amy Lanzi go deep on digital marketing, AI, and the influencer versus creator debate.
56 min
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Sierra CEO Bret Taylor on why the AI bubble fee...
The OpenAI Chairman, now working on agents at his new startup Sierra, on why he’s all in on AI.
46 min
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Sal Khan is hopeful that AI won't destroy educa...
The CEO of Khan Academy and guest host Hank Green on online education and what AI assistants can really do for learning.
59 min
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The quest to keep OpenAI honest
Why EyesOnOpenAI is pushing the AI giant to benefit humanity instead of chase profits
35 min
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Rewind: Bookshop CEO's crusade to save books fr...
62 min
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Is ChatGPT killing higher education?
52 min
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Amazon is betting on agents to win the AI race
Why Amazon AGI Labs chief David Luan thinks solving agents is the next ‘S-curve’ for AI.
49 min
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How the head of Obsidian went from superfan to CEO
Steph 'Kepano' Ango on why productivity tools need community more than they need AI
50 min
113
ChatGPT chief Nick Turley doesn't want you too ...
The head of ChatGPT on AI attachment, ads, and what’s next.
50 min
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Notion's CEO wants you to demand better from yo...
Ivan Zhao on productivity, LEGO, and what he learned from Kyoto’s craft tradition.
51 min
115
GitHub's CEO says AI coding is ‘here to stay’
The head of GitHub on Copilot, vibe coding, and what's next for AI.
56 min
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Why tech is racing to adopt AI coding
Anysphere CEO Michael Truell and guest host Casey Newton discuss Cursor AI and the future of programming.
51 min
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Why AI researchers are getting paid like NBA Al...
The Verge’s Hayden Field breaks down the AI talent war.
35 min
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Can we ever trust an AI lawyer?
Robin AI CEO Richard Robinson on hallucinations, facts versus truth, and how lawyers are using AI today.
52 min
119
We are not ready for better deepfakes
Captions CEO Gaurav Misra discusses his company’s alarming new deepfake report, and what to watch out for as the technology advances.
52 min
120
Why tech billionaires want a ‘corporate dictato...
Guest host Jon Fortt and The Nerd Reich author Gil Duran discuss the Dark Enlightenment and the rise of tech authoritarianism.
58 min
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Perplexity CEO on why the browser is AI's kille...
Aravind Srinivas on Perplexity’s new Comet browser, competing with OpenAI and Meta, and what AI might look like three years from now.
45 min
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How decision making will change when AI answers...
Guest host Jon Fortt sits down with Cassie Kozyrkov, former chief decision scientist at Google, to discuss the intersection of AI and decision science.
59 min
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Inside the AI startup frenzy: ‘Everyone’s pivot...
A chat with Meanng founder Ellis Hamburger about the ethical vacuum in AI and what founders aren’t saying publicly.
44 min
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How SharkNinja took over the home
CEO Mark Barrocas on grilling, product design, and the future of viral marketing.
79 min
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Why Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg went to war o...
Breaking down the ongoing open source drama surrounding WordPress, and what’s next for Automattic.
66 min