Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Inside the players and politics of the AI industry
Guest host Alex Heath sits down with senior reporter Kylie Robison to discuss what it’s like to be fully immersed in the modern AI industry every single day.
42 min
Why Tubi CEO Anjali Sud thinks free TV can win ...
Tubi isn’t just competing with Netflix for your time; it needs to beat TikTok, too.
63 min
Remix: How private equity took over everything
Chains keep collapsing after investors buy them. How did we get here?
35 min
AI will make money sooner than you think, says ...
Enterprise customers are apparently ready to start trusting.
66 min
Why the video game industry is such a mess
The layoffs will continue until everything is Fortnite
34 min
Zoom CEO Eric Yuan wants AI clones in meetings
Zoom wants to be much more than a videoconferencing app — it wants to take on Microsoft and Google and become a major player in AI.
57 min
Google Zero is here. Now what?
Search is an invisible platform that shaped the entire web. And now it’s changing.
24 min
How the FBI built its own smartphone company to...
Journalist Joseph Cox, author of the new book Dark Wire, tells us the fascinating story behind secure phone startup Anom.
38 min
Google's Sundar Pichai on AI-powered search and...
The head of Google joined Decoder to talk about the state of AI, the major changes rolling out now to Google Search, and the future of the web.
41 min
TikTok's big bet to fight the ban bill
The good, the bad, and the weird in TikTok's lawsuit against the US
43 min
Why Adobe CEO Shantanu Narayen is confident we'...
The tech and consumers aren’t quite there yet, but Adobe’s betting big on an AI future.
57 min
Why the tech industry can’t crack the smart home
Despite years of improving hardware and software, the smart home is still a confusing and frustrating mess. Can the Matter standard fix it?
37 min
Polestar CEO Thomas Ingenlath on life after Vol...
Polestar, now a more independent brand distinct from Volvo, is gearing up to deliver more affordable cars this year.
60 min
Understanding the chaos at Tesla
Tesla is in crisis and now stands at a major crossroads as Elon Musk tries to transform the business from a regular old car maker into an AI and robotics company.
36 min
Mercedes-Benz CEO Ola Källenius explains why EV...
2030 might not be the year the whole lineup goes electric, but it’s still coming.
64 min
Why the TikTok ban won't solve the US's online ...
The Biden administration just passed a historic bill banning TikTok, but the US’s lack of federal privacy protection remains a much bigger problem to solve.
44 min
Discord CEO Jason Citron makes the case for a s...
For teens and gamers, Discord has become their entire online social lives. Now, CEO Jason Citron thinks the world is headed more in that direction.
55 min
Disney just fought off a shareholder revolt — b...
Disney’s latest boardroom bout with an activist investor reveals much deeper issues with the streaming industry and, more broadly, the state of entertainment itself.
39 min
Dropbox CEO Drew Houston wants you to embrace A...
There is no ‘go back to 2019 button’
61 min
The rise and fall of Vice Media
How the high-flying media company flush with hundreds of millions in investor capital collapsed into a smaller, sadder version of itself.
39 min
Why Cloudflare CEO Matthew Prince is the intern...
Free speech, war zones, and what Aristotle has to do with internet infrastructure
75 min
Why Nintendo sued a Switch emulator out of exis...
Nintendo brought a lawsuit against the makers of the Yuzu emulator for copyright infringement, and the aftermath has upended the video game emulation community.
39 min
Mailchimp CEO Rania Succar on culture, acquisit...
Mailchimp, now owned by Intuit, lost its co-founder and CEO in 2022. Here's how new CEO Rania Succar is pushing forward.
62 min
Can you patent a pizza?
Our friends over at Gastropod detailed a fascinating IP dispute in the ‘90s over the ownership of stuffed crust pizza — and how the legal system does, and doesn’t, protect certain ideas.
49 min
Federation is the future of social media, says ...
The head of Threads and Mastodon competitor Bluesky on why she thinks decentralization is the future of social media.
67 min