Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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We are not ready for better deepfakes
Captions CEO Gaurav Misra discusses his company’s alarming new deepfake report, and what to watch out for as the technology advances.
52 min
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Why tech billionaires want a ‘corporate dictato...
Guest host Jon Fortt and The Nerd Reich author Gil Duran discuss the Dark Enlightenment and the rise of tech authoritarianism.
58 min
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Perplexity CEO on why the browser is AI's kille...
Aravind Srinivas on Perplexity’s new Comet browser, competing with OpenAI and Meta, and what AI might look like three years from now.
45 min
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How decision making will change when AI answers...
Guest host Jon Fortt sits down with Cassie Kozyrkov, former chief decision scientist at Google, to discuss the intersection of AI and decision science.
59 min
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Inside the AI startup frenzy: ‘Everyone’s pivot...
A chat with Meanng founder Ellis Hamburger about the ethical vacuum in AI and what founders aren’t saying publicly.
44 min
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How SharkNinja took over the home
CEO Mark Barrocas on grilling, product design, and the future of viral marketing.
79 min
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Why Automattic CEO Matt Mullenweg went to war o...
Breaking down the ongoing open source drama surrounding WordPress, and what’s next for Automattic.
66 min
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Hinge CEO Justin McLeod says dating AI chatbots...
The cofounder of Hinge on AI, monetization, and the future of online dating.
59 min
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Monopoly isn’t a game (with Lina Khan)
An episode from our friends at Stay Tuned with Preet featuring former FTC Chair Lina Khan.
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Taskrabbit CEO Ania Smith isn’t afraid of AI ro...
The head of the IKEA-owned worker platform on the future of labor.
63 min
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Why Runway CEO Cris Valenzuela thinks AI filmma...
The head of the AI video platform on Hollywood, copyright, and the future of filmmaking.
48 min
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Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky wants to build the ever...
The travel platform has big ambitions to sell you much more than accommodations.
69 min
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How private equity kills companies and communities
Journalist Megan Greenwell discusses her new book Bad Company and the role private equity plays in American life.
46 min
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Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI
43 min
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Why Uber's CEO is okay with reinventing the bus
Dara Khosrowshahi on autonomy, AI agents, and the future of ride sharing.
59 min
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Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI can save th...
One of Microsoft’s top AI leaders on the future of agents, web search, and AI art.
66 min
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Workday's new product head hopes he can make yo...
Gerrit Kazmaier on AI and making enterprise software suck less
69 min
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Did Apple get too big for its own good?
Daring Fireball’s John Gruber on the latest in Epic v. Apple and why the iPhone maker is under threat.
74 min
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Reuters is ready to stand up for the press — an...
President Paul Bascobert on distribution, press freedom, and the value of facts.
61 min
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NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, a...
Peter Kafka sat down with the publisher of The Times on this episode of the Channels podcast.
62 min
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What Trump has broken in 100 days
Tariffs, TikTok, censorship, safety, and the DOGE of it all
44 min
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Decoder Live: Fired FTC commissioners fight back
A core thesis for our era: ‘Bribery is bad, even when it doesn’t work.’
50 min
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The case for breaking up Google has never been ...
Former DOJ antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter explains why.
64 min
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Verizon’s consumer chief: Net neutrality ‘went ...
Sowmyanarayan Sampath on the 5G race with China and the perils of standing up to the new Trump administration.
64 min
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How Trump’s tariffs actually work on the ground
Flexport CEO Ryan Petersen with an air-, sea-, and ground-level view on the tariff fallout.
59 min