Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Okta's CEO is betting big on AI agent identity
Why Todd McKinnon thinks it’s “naive” not to prepare for the SaaSpocalypse.
62 min
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Everyone hates Ticketmaster. Why'd Trump go eas...
The Trump DOJ settled with Live Nation. But dozens of states are keeping the Ticketmaster antitrust fight alive.
33 min
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Confronting the CEO of the AI company that impe...
Superhuman CEO Shishir Mehrotra on the difference between attribution and impersonation, and what AI companies should owe creators.
71 min
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Paramount's $110 billion Warner Bros. gamble
To take on Netflix and YouTube, Paramount has to break the Warner Bros. curse.
45 min
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Yahoo CEO Jim Lanzone on reviving the web's hom...
How Yahoo escaped its Verizon death spiral and became profitable again
73 min
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Anthropic doesn't trust the Pentagon, and neith...
Techdirt’s Mike Masnick on the NSA, surveillance, and why we can’t take the government at its word.
44 min
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Hasbro's CEO lets AI Peppa Pig help design toys
Chris Cocks on AI, K-Pop Demon Hunters, and why Harry Potter still matters
67 min
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Prediction markets want to be the news
Why controversial gambling platforms Polymarket and Kalshi are cosplaying as the news.
41 min
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Zillow's CEO on growth during a housing crisis
Zillow’s Jeremy Wacksman on affordability, AI listings, and the future of the real estate.
61 min
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Inside Xbox's executive shakeup
Xbox boss Phil Spencer is retiring, and the future of one of the video game industry’s major pillars looks more uncertain than ever.
38 min
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Hank Green lets loose on YouTube, billionaires,...
The former Complexly owner lets loose on YouTube, AI, and why he turned his educational company into a non-profit.
66 min
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Money no longer matters to AI's top talent
The AI industry is rife with defections, FOMO, and radical mission statements. It’s about to get supercharged.
37 min
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Let's talk about Ring, lost dogs, and the surve...
How the camera maker’s Search Party feature, advertised during the Super Bowl, turned it into a symbol for AI surveillance.
22 min
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The surprising case for AI judges
A new AI arbitration system promises to solve disputes faster and keep things fair. Could it work for court?
68 min
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Siemens CEO's mission to automate everything
Roland Busch on AI-powered factories, tariffs in the Trump era, trade and the future of NATO.
58 min
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Reality is losing the deepfake war
Why AI labeling efforts are falling flat in the face of slop, disinformation, and messy metadata standards.
44 min
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Docusign's CEO on the dangers of trusting AI to...
Docusign’s Allan Thygesen says “not providing an AI service isn't really an option.”
61 min
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Netflix is eating Hollywood — because it has to
What the bidding war over Warner Bros. Discovery says about the future of Hollywood.
51 min
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Experian's tech chief defends credit scores: 'W...
Alex Lintner, tech head of the global credit reporting company, on AI, privacy, and what data brokerages really do.
65 min
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Why nobody's stopping Grok
How Elon Musk and xAi are putting a nail in the coffin of content moderation.
61 min
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Razer CEO on AI in game dev, Grok, and anime wa...
Razer chief Min-Liang Tan on confronting the AI backlash in gaming.
61 min
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Rewind: How private equity kills companies and ...
Author Megan Greenwell on her book Bad Company and the scourge of private equity.
47 min
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Dropout CEO Sam Reich on the business of subscr...
“I wish that I could plant a forest full of weird trees on the internet.”
60 min
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What’s next for Netflix and Paramount in the Wa...
Channels host Peter Kafka interviews Bloomberg’s Lucas Shaw about the biggest story in entertainment.
39 min
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"All chaos and panic": Nilay answers your burni...
Nilay joins Decoder producers Kate Cox and Nick Statt for our special end-of-year mailbag episode.
52 min