Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a new show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recode Decode: Ben Silbermann
Pinterest CEO Ben Silbermann talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about deliberately engineering happiness into the site, expanding into commerce, and competing with larger social and commerce tech companies.
30 min
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Recode Decode: Jeanette Winterson
Writer Jeanette Winterson talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about her latest book, Frankissstein: A Love Story.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Jason DeParle
New York Times reporter Jason DeParle talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "A Good Provider Is One Who Leaves: One Family and Migration in the 21st Century."
47 min
104
Recode Decode: Megan Rapinoe
Megan Rapinoe, the co-captain of the US Women's National Soccer Team, returns to Recode Decode to talk with Recode's Kara Swisher.
23 min
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Recode Decode: David Epstein
Journalist and bestselling author David Epstein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World."
51 min
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Recode Decode: The Swisher family
Kara Swisher convenes her brother, her sons, her mother and her fiancée to talk about their tech habits and how they get their news in a contentious election year.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Bruce Schneier
Security researcher Bruce Schneier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent book, "Click Here to Kill Everybody."
62 min
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Recode Decode: (Bonus) How To Save the 2020 Ele...
If you like Recode Decode, we think you'll also like Function with Anil Dash. Here's a recent episode about stopping fake news ahead of the 2020 US elections.
47 min
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Best of Recode Decode: 2019
Recode's Kara Swisher, her executive producer Erica Anderson, and her producer Eric Johnson discuss their favorite Recode Decode interviews from 2019 and look back at some of the year's big trends.
60 min
110
Recode Decode: Liz Plank
Journalist Liz Plank talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her recent book, "For the Love of Men: A New Vision for Mindful Masculinity."
55 min
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Recode Decode: Dylan Collins
SuperAwesome CEO Dylan Collins talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he got interested in children's digital privacy at a time when Silicon Valley didn't care, how his company works with tech firms to help them comply with privacy laws, and SuperAwesome's in-development video platform for kids, Rukkaz.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Tom Steyer
2020 presidential candidate Tom Steyer talks with Recode's Teddy Schleiefer about income inequality and wealth in America, what separates him from fellow ultra-wealthy candidate Michael Bloomberg, and why we should expect the government to solve problems — not plutocrats who have pledged to give their money away.
40 min
113
Recode Decode: Ben Mezrich
Writer Ben Mezrich talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his latest book "Bitcoin Billionaires" and his previous books, including "The Accidental Billionaires," which was adapted into the movie "The Social Network."
56 min
114
Recode Decode: Margaret O'Mara
Historian Margaret O'Mara talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her latest book, "The Code: Silicon Valley and the Remaking of America."
57 min
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Recode Decode: Neal Katyal
Neal Katyal, a partner at the law firm Hogan Lovells, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book "Impeach: The Case against Donald Trump."
57 min
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Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen
MakerBot CEO Nadav Goshen talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of 3-D printing.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Andrea Matwyshyn
Andrea Matwyshyn, the associate dean of innovation at Penn State Law, talks with Kara Swisher's executive producer, Erica Anderson, about the integration of technology with biology, a trend she terms the "internet of bodies."
52 min
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Recode Decode: Deborah Rutter
Deborah Rutter, the president of Washington, DC's John F. Kennedy Center for the Performing Arts, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher
46 min
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Recode Decode: Rick Smith
Axon CEO Rick Smith talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his company's best known product (the Taser), how it's thinking about the ethical implications of new products aimed at police, and the controversies around facial recognition in body cameras.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Barry Friedman
Barry Friedman, the director of The Policing Project at New York University's School of Law, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about making police more accountable, the ethics of emerging technologies like AI and facial recognition, and the missing regulations that affect local communities in the US.
56 min
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Recode Decode: Innovation in the midwest
Recode's Kara Swisher and her executive producer Erica Anderson talk with a panel of entrepreneurs in Valparaiso, Indiana: Sarah Hallberg, the Medical Director of Virta Health; Eric Christopher, the co-founder and CEO of Zylo; and Robin Fleming, the CEO of Anvl.
57 min
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Recode Decode: Jana Messerschmidt
Venture capitalist Jana Messerschmidt, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how she became a partner at Lightspeed and the co-founder of an all-female group of angel investors called #ANGELS.
55 min
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Recode Decode: Susan Rice
Susan Rice, the former US ambassador to the United Nations and National Security Advisor under President Obama, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the "ass backwards" way President Trump has approached foreign policy and her new book, "Tough Love: My Story of the Things Worth Fighting For."
69 min
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Recode Decode: SEC Commissioner Robert Jackson
Robert Jackson, one of the five commissioners on the Securities and Exchange Commission, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the SEC works and the problem with perpetual dual-class stock at companies like WeWork, Facebook, and Google.
51 min
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Recode Decode: Alexis Ohanian
Reddit co-founder and Initialized Capital managing partner Alexis Ohanian talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he became a "dadvocate" for paid paternity leave.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Ted Baxter
Writer and health advocate Ted Baxter talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his book, "Relentless: How a Massive Stroke Changed My Life for the Better."
42 min
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Recode Decode: Brian Chesky
Airbnb CEO and co-founder Brian Chesky talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the recent mass shooting at an Airbnb in Orinda, Calif., how the company is changing its policies to keep guests safer, and what Chesky wishes he had done differently when Airbnb was smaller.
65 min
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Recode Decode: Stephanie Ruhle
MSNBC anchor Stephanie Ruhle talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new podcast Modern Ruhles, the Trump voters who get overlooked by the media, and why Wall Streeters afraid of Elizabeth Warren should "look in the goddamn mirror."
50 min
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Recode Decode: The Google walkout organizers, o...
In this special episode of Recode Decode, Kara Swisher and her executive producer Erica Anderson speak with the people who organized the 2018 Google walkout — and the people who were inspired by them.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Edward Snowden
NSA whistleblower Edward Snowden talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he leaked highly classified information in 2013, why that doesn't make him a "traitor," and his new book, "Permanent Record."
101 min
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Recode Decode: Ben Horowitz
Andreessen Horowitz co-founder Ben Horowitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of venture capital, diversity in tech, and his new book, "What You Do Is Who You Are: How to Create Your Business Culture."
58 min
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Recode Decode: Bill Kristol
Conservative analyst Bill Kristol talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the impeachment effort against President Trump, how politics has entered a "crisis of truth" in the era of Fox News and social media, and the steps that should be taken pre-emptively to ensure that the 2020 elections are free and fair.
61 min
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Recode Decode: Gary Cohn
Gary Cohn, the former Director of the National Economic Council and former chief economic adviser to President Trump, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about what he's done since leaving the Trump administration, including a "significant" investment and advisory position he's taken up in a mobile security company called Hoyos Integrity.
68 min
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Recode Decode: Politics and tech onstage
Recode's Kara Swisher talks to the creators of two new plays that intersect with tech issues: Heidi Schreck, the star and playwright of "What the Constitution Means to Me," and the writer and director of "Right to Be Forgotten" — Sharyn Rothstein and Seema Sueko.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Ronan Farrow
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist Ronan Farrow talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, "Catch and Kill: Lies, Spies, and a Conspiracy to Protect Predators."
56 min
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Recode Decode: Ken Burns
Filmmaker Ken Burns talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest documentary series "Country Music," in which he explores the history of the genre, its place in the larger American musical landscape, and the powerful universality of "three chords and the truth."
61 min
137
Recode Decode: The inside story of the Cambridg...
Cambridge Analytica’s former business development director Brittany Kaiser talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about her new book, "TARGETED: The Cambridge Analytica Whistleblower's Inside Story of How Big Data, Trump, and Facebook Broke Democracy and How It Can Happen Again."
59 min
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Recode Decode: Rosetta Stone President Matt Hulett
Matt Hulett, the president of education company Rosetta Stone, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about the company’s pivot away from language-learning CDs and into a more advanced and “approachable” mobile app.
41 min
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Recode Decode: OpenDoor CEO Eric Wu / Evite CEO...
Recode's Kara Swisher interviews two CEOs in this double-feature episode of Recode Decode: OpenDoor CEO Eric Wu and Evite CEO Victor Cho.
52 min
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Recode Decode: "Antisocial" author Andrew Marantz
Andrew Marantz, a staff writer at the New Yorker, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno‑Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation."
62 min
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Recode Decode: Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina
Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of HP who ran for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about campaigning against Donald Trump, her friendship with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, and the over-concentration of power among a handful of CEOs in the tech industry.
63 min
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Recode Decode: FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub
Federal Election Commission Chair Ellen Weintraub talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the FEC works, how it tries to defend elections from foreign influence, and why the Commission is currently immobilized by a lack of "quorum."
61 min
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Recode Decode: Obama's cybersecurity chief Mich...
President Barack Obama's former cybersecurity coordinator Michael Daniel, now the chief of the nonprofit Cyber Threat Alliance, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about the state of US cybersecurity heading into the 2020 elections.
63 min
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Recode Decode: FTC Commissioner Rebecca Kelly S...
Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, one of the FTC's two Democratic commissioners, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of antitrust problems in the tech industry, the history of pushback against the FTC for alleged over-enforcement, and whether it is under-enforcing the law today.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Senator Mark Warner
Mark Warner, the senior US Senator from Virginia, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about several interconnected policy issues affecting the 2020 elections, including the security of voter registries, the expectation of social media manipulation by Russia and other hostile foreign powers, and the newly announced impeachment inquiry into President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Whistleblower Aid CEO John Tye
John Napier Tye, the founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how his non-profit law firm helps people seeking to legally expose corruption in the government and at private companies.
49 min
147
Recode Decode: Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder
Recode's Kara Swisher talks with Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder, a hedge fund manager turned human rights activist and his son, Josh Browder, whose company DoNotPay helps consumers fight everything from parking tickets to the Equifax leaks.
42 min
148
Recode Decode: "She Said" authors Jodi Kantor a...
New York Times reporters Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movement."
65 min
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Recode Decode: Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman
Steve Schwarzman, the CEO of the private equity firm The Blackstone Group, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, What It Takes: Lessons in the Pursuit of Excellence.
64 min
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Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio
Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York City, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he's still running for the Democratic nomination in 2020, the threat of job automation and his proposed "robot tax," and how de Blasio thinks about the future of transit in New York and beyond.
73 min
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Recode Decode: 2020 presidential candidate Mari...
Author and spiritual teacher Marianne Williamson talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her campaign to be the Democratic nominee for president in 2020.
66 min
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Recode Decode: The Wing CEO Audrey Gelman
Audrey Gelman, the co-founder and CEO of women's coworking space The Wing, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's new hiring network for its members, and how it can combat bias in hiring.
43 min
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Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith
Microsoft President Brad Smith talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, co-authored with Carol Ann Browne, Tools and Weapons: The Promise and the Peril of the Digital Age.
65 min
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Recode Decode: Why workers need to be part of t...
New York Times labor and workplaces reporter Steve Greenhouse talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, Beaten Down, Worked Up: The Past, Present, and Future of American Labor.
52 min
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Recode Decode: "The Enlightened Capitalists" au...
James O'Toole, a professor emeritus at the University of Southern California, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his book, "The Enlightened Capitalists: Cautionary Tales of Business Pioneers Who Tried to Do Well by Doing Good."
43 min
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Recode Decode: Psychologist Jennifer Eberhardt
Jennifer Eberhardt, professor of psychology at Stanford University, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her most recent book, "Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do."
51 min
157
Recode Decode: Lime president Joe Kraus
Lime President Joe Kraus talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's pivot from bikes to scooters, the "unbundling of the car," and the impact of scooters on cities and public transit.
64 min
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Recode Decode: Gro Intelligence CEO Sara Menker
Gro Intelligence founder and CEO Sara Menker talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the growing field of ag-tech and how farmers around the world are using data.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Huawei's chief security officer ...
Andy Purdy, the chief security officer for Huawei Technologies USA, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher.
42 min
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Recode Decode: CDA 230
Recode's Kara Swisher convenes a panel of experts to talk about section 230 of the Communications Decency Act: cybersecurity law professor Jeff Kosseff, author of "The Twenty Six Words That Created The Internet"; lawyer Carrie Goldberg, author of "Nobody’s Victim: Fighting Psychos, Stalkers, Pervs, and Trolls"; and the CEO and founder of Techdirt, Mike Masnick.
62 min
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Recode Decode: "Cult of the Dead Cow" author Jo...
Writer Joe Menn talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "Cult of the Dead Cow: How the Original Hacking Supergroup Might Just Save the World."
49 min
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Recode Decode: Index Ventures' Mike Volpi and D...
Mike Volpi and Danny Rimer, the co-founders of the San Francisco office of Index Ventures, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Ro Khanna
US Congressman Ro Khanna, who represents California's 17th district, joins Recode's Kara Swisher live onstage at Manny's in San Francisco to talk about the state of tech policy and the next elections.
56 min
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Recode Decode: Andreessen Horowitz's Scott Kupor
Scott Kupor, the managing partner of Andreessen Horowitz, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher and Teddy Schleifer about his new book, Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital and How to Get It.
61 min
165
Recode Decode: Why Silicon Valley loves "biohac...
Inspired by the trendiness of "intermittent fasting" in the tech community, Kara Swisher's executive producer, Erica Anderson, talks with three eating habit experts — a biohacker, an academic, and an eating disorder specialist.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond
Larry Diamond, a professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Ill Winds: Saving Democracy from Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency.
51 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Lauren Underwood
Lauren Underwood, the US Congresswoman who represents Illinois' 14th district, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded on July 29, 2019 at Manny's in San Francisco.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Pearson CEO John Fallon
Pearson CEO John Fallon talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the company is pivoting from print to digital textbooks.
48 min
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Recode Decode: “The Great Hack” director Karim ...
In this live interview, Recode's Kara Swisher talks with former Cambridge Analytica COO Julian Wheatland, early Facebook investor Roger McNamee, and the director and writer of the new Netflix documentary The Great Hack — Karim Amer and Pedro Kos.
66 min
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Recode Decode: Megan Rapinoe
On the 400th episode of Recode Decode, Megan Rapinoe, the co-captain of the US Women's National Soccer Team, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher. This live conversation was recorded at the Mobile Marketing Association CEO & CMO Summit in Sonoma, CA.
58 min
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Recode Decode: Reddit CEO Steve Huffman
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded at Manny's in San Francisco.
55 min
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Recode Decode: Stitch Fix CEO Katrina Lake
Stitch Fix founder and CEO Katrina Lake talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the future of retail, how the company has changed in the past nine years, and the rarity of female tech CEOs.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Adam Schiff
Congressman Adam Schiff, who represents California’s 28th district and chairs the House Intelligence Committee, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the 2020 election, the Russia investigation, and more.
51 min
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Recode Decode: Andrew Yang
Entrepreneur and Venture for America founder Andrew Yang talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign to be the Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential race.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Senator Michael Bennet
Michael Bennet, the senior U.S. Senator from Colorado, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the intersection of social media and politics, and running for president in 2020.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Ind., talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign for president of the United States.
44 min
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Recode Decode: Harley-Davidson CEO Matthew Leva...
Harley-Davidson president and CEO Matthew Levatich talks with Recode's Kara Swisher live onstage at the 2019 Code Conference.
35 min
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Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner
Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her popular profiles of public figures such as Gwyneth Paltrow and her new novel, "Fleishman Is in Trouble."
60 min
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Recode Decode: Journalist Carole Cadwalladr
Carole Cadwalladr, a reporter for the Guardian and Observer, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her investigations into the Cambridge Analytica scandal and the links between tech and political disinformation campaigns.
72 min
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Recode Decode: Long-Term Stock Exchange founder...
Eric Ries, the founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange and author of "The Lean Startup," talks with Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
33 min
181
Recode Decode: "Russian Doll" star Natasha Lyon...
Actor and producer Natasha Lyonne ("Russian Doll," "Orange Is the New Black") and Netflix's vice president of original content Cindy Holland talk with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference.
40 min
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Recode Decode: Rockfeller Foundation president ...
Rockfeller Foundation president Raj Shah and Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon talk with Recode's Teddy Schleifer at the 2019 Code Conference.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian (...
Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Jason Del Rey at the 2019 Code Conference.
39 min
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Recode Decode: MIT Media Lab director Joi Ito
Joichi "Joi" Ito, the director of the MIT Media Lab, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about engineers who over-simplify the world's problems, the Media Lab's role in "surveillance capitalism," and why the values of the tech world will shift from within.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Instagram's Adam Mosseri, Facebo...
In these live interviews from the 2019 Code Conference, Casey Newton first talks to Instagram boss Adam Mosseri and Facebook's head of AR and VR, Andrew "Boz" Bosworth; then; later in the show, he interviews three former tech insiders: ex-Googler Jessica Powell, ex-Facebooker Antonio García-Martínez, and ex-Twitter lawyer Nicole Wong.
57 min
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Recode Decode: Fair Fight Action founder Stacey...
Georgia politician Stacey Abrams and her former campaign manager Lauren Groh-Wargo, now the co-founders of Fair Fight Action, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher and Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
53 min
187
Recode Decode: RAICES immigration activists Jon...
Jonathan Ryan and Erika Andiola, the CEO and chief advocacy officer at RAICES, talk with Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
33 min
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Recode Decode: Amazon Web Services CEO Andy Jas...
Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon's cloud computing service AWS, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference.
46 min
189
Recode Decode: Twitter's Vijaya Gadde and Kayvo...
Vijaya Gadde, who leads the legal and trust and safety teams at Twitter, and Periscope co-founder Kayvon Beykpour, who's now the company's head of product, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka at the 2019 Code Conference in Scottsdale, Ariz.
46 min
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Recode Decode: The Intercept's Mehdi Hasan
Mehdi Hasan, a columnist at the Intercept and host of its weekly podcast Deconstructed, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher.
58 min
191
Recode Decode: CNN's Jim Sciutto
CNN's chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, The Shadow War: Inside Russia’s and China's Secret Operations to Defeat America.
56 min
192
Recode Decode: Michele Madansky
Media market research consultant Michele Madansky talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about The Elephant in the Valley, her study into the prevalence of harassment in tech that was first conducted in 2016 and recently updated with new statistics.
43 min
193
Recode Decode: Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani
Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the challenges facing women in the tech industry and what everyone can do to make progress happen faster.
40 min
194
Recode Decode: Susan Hockfield
Former MIT president Susan Hockfield talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "The Age of Living Machines: How Biology Will Build the Next Technology Revolution."
53 min
195
Recode Decode: Investors Mark Cuban and Steve C...
In these live interviews recorded at the 2019 SALT Conference in Las Vegas, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to investors Mark Cuban and Steve Case and talent agent Scooter Braun.
63 min
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Recode Decode: DuckDuckGo CEO Gabe Weinberg
DuckDuckGo CEO Gabe Weinberg talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher in this live conversation recorded at Made By We in New York City.
53 min
197
Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss ...
Ex-Facebook security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live)
44 min
198
Recode Decode: Anand Giridharadas
"Winners Take All" author Anand Giridharadas talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher in this live conversation recorded at Made By We in New York City.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse
Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about bringing legitimate financial institutions into the formerly-sketchy world of blockchain and cryptocurrencies.
55 min
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Recode Decode: “Good to Great” author Jim Collins
Jim Collins, the author of business books such as "Built to Last" and "Good to Great," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest work, "Turning the Flywheel."
59 min