We the People

A weekly show of constitutional debate hosted by National Constitution Center President and CEO Jeffrey Rosen where listeners can hear the best arguments on all sides of the constitutional issues at the center of American life.

News Commentary
The Affordable Care Act Back at the Supreme Court
Explaining the latest legal challenge to the Affordable Care Act, legal experts Abbe Gluck and Ilya Shapiro joined host Jeffrey Rosen.
57 min
Religious Groups, Foster Care, and the First Am...
The Supreme Court heard highly-anticipated oral arguments this week. Leah Litman and Jonathan Adler recap with host Jeffrey Rosen.
46 min
United States v. Google
Why is the government suing Google? Experts explain the new antitrust lawsuit and how it relates to the Constitution with host Jeffrey Rosen.
59 min
Election 2020 in the Courts
How are lawsuits over various voting laws around the country being decided? Emily Bazelon and Brad Smith discuss with Jeffrey Rosen.
53 min
Barrett Confirmation Hearings Recap
Recapping the first days of confirmation hearings for Judge Amy Coney Barrett, Kate Shaw and Michael Moreland join host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
The Pandemic, the President and the 25th Amendment
Explaining the 25th Amendment and what happens if the president becomes unable to serve, experts join host Jeffrey Rosen.
51 min
Supreme Court 2020 Term Preview
Adam Liptak and Marcia Coyle preview the upcoming Supreme Court term with host Jeffrey Rosen.
53 min
The 19th-Century History of Court Packing
What can the history of “court packing” after the founding and in the 19th century teach us? Constitutional historians join host Jeffrey Rosen to discuss.
48 min
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg: A Constitutional Icon
Reflecting on Justice Ginsburg’s legacy as an advocate, Supreme Court Justice, and cultural and constitutional icon—two former clerks join host Jeffrey Rosen.
42 min
Founding Stories of America’s Founding Documents
Telling stories from three “founding” periods in American history, renowned constitutional scholars join host Jeffrey Rosen.
43 min
Parties, Platforms, Conventions, and the Consti...
Scholars explore the evolution of political parties and their constitutional positions with host Jeffrey Rosen.
48 min
19th Amendment: Origins, History, and Legacy
Telling the story of the 19th Amendment from the Civil War through its ratification to today, 19th Amendment experts Reva Siegel and Laura Free join host Jeffrey Rosen.
56 min
The Constitutional Bounds of Executive Action
Experts discuss the expansion of presidential power with host Jeffrey Rosen.
50 min
Live at the NCC: The 19th Amendment: The Untold...
In this episode that originally aired on our companion podcast Live at the National Constitution Center, historians share the untold story of the fight for women's suffrage.
29 min
American Elections During Crisis
What can past elections during major crises in American history teach us about elections during coronavirus? Experts discuss with host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
Portland, Protests and Presidential Power
Experts discuss the rights of protestors, the president’s power to deploy federal forces in the states, and more in light of recent events in Portland.
52 min
The Future of Church and State at SCOTUS
Supreme Court experts reflect on the key religious freedom cases from this past term, and look ahead to future cases.
58 min
State Attorneys General Keith Ellison and Dave ...
The Attorneys General of Minnesota and Ohio discuss the constitutional challenges facing their states today including policing reform.
63 min
Has the Roberts Court Arrived?
A 2019-2020 Supreme Court term recap focusing on the role of the Chief Justice with guests Kate Shaw and Ilya Shapiro.
67 min
“What to the Slave is the Fourth of July?”
David Blight and Lucas Morel reflect on Frederick Douglass’ iconic speech.
67 min
The Supreme Court’s DACA Decision
Breaking down the Supreme Court’s 5-4 decision allowing DACA to remain in place, Leah Litman and Jonathan Adler join host Jeffrey Rosen.
57 min
LGBTQ Employees’ Rights at the Supreme Court
Exploring the recent Supreme Court decision barring employment discrimination on the basis of LGBTQ status, SCOTUS experts Joshua Matz and Matthew Franck join host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
Live at the NCC: Policing, Protests, and the Co...
This crossover with Live at the National Constitution Center, our companion podcast, features Monica Bell, David French, Janai Nelson, and Theodore Shaw.
58 min
Live at the NCC: Policing, Protests, and the Co...
This crossover episode with Live at the National Constitution Center, our companion podcast, features Judge Theodore McKee.
29 min
What is Section 230? 
This episode explores the statute subject to a recent Executive Order by President Trump in response to fact-checking by Twitter, and more.
66 min
Voting, Coronavirus, and the Constitution
Explaining court cases and recent controversies surrounding elections during the pandemic, election law experts join host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
“Faithless Electors” Supreme Court Argument Recap
We recap the oral arguments before the Supreme Court with experts on both sides of the two cases about “faithless electors.”
57 min
Supreme Court Remote Argument Recaps Part 2
Experts on all sides of the Our Lady of Guadalupe cases recap the oral argument with host Jeffrey Rosen.
49 min
The Supreme Court’s First Remote Argument – A R...
Experts on all sides of the Booking.com case recap its oral argument with host Jeffrey Rosen.
49 min
Will Coronavirus Change Criminal Justice?
Emily Bazelon and Paul Cassell explain how the criminal justice system is addressing the rights of defendants and victims alike during the coronavirus crisis.
51 min
Who Has the Power to "Reopen" the Country?
Explaining the difference between federal and state power in addressing the pandemic response and recovery—professors John Yoo and Alison LaCroix join host Jeffrey Rosen.
52 min
The Supreme Court Goes Remote
Explaining recent decisions and how the Court is handling coronavirus—including by going remote—Marcia Coyle, Jaime Santos, and Jonathan Adler join host Jeffrey Rosen.
60 min
Is COVID-19 Hurting Global Democracy?
The response of some leaders to coronavirus may threaten global democracy. International law experts detail the consequences on this episode.
61 min
Civil Liberties and COVID-19
What happens to constitutional rights like free exercise of religion when Americans can’t gather in person? First Amendment experts discuss with host Jeffrey Rosen.
49 min
Governing During Social Distancing
How can Congress and the courts carry on their constitutional functions in the midst of the coronavirus pandemic? Norm Ornstein and Ken White discuss with host Jeffrey Rosen.
44 min
The Constitution and the Coronavirus
What powers does the government have to manage a public health crisis? What rights do citizens maintain? Public health law experts discuss with host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
Louisiana Abortion Law at the Supreme Court
Advocates on both sides of the latest abortion case at the Supreme Court join host Jeffrey Rosen to debate it.
37 min
The Future of the CFPB
Richard Cordray, former Director of the Consumer Financial Protection Bureau, and Cato’s Ilya Shapiro join host Jeffrey Rosen to discuss a case challenging the constitutionality of the leadership structure of the CFPB.
44 min
The Executive and the Rule of Law
John Yoo and Kim Wehle discuss the recent sentencing of Roger Stone and the larger rule of law questions surrounding it in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
George Washington’s Constitutional Legacy
Historians Lindsay Chervinsky and Craig Bruce Smith reflect on Washington – the good and the bad – and his constitutional legacy.
53 min
Civic Virtue, and Why It Matters
Reflecting on the values and the concept of “civic virtue” that the founders hoped every American would embody, and how we can return to those values, Margaret Taylor of Lawfare and Adam White of AEI join host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
An Impeachment Trial Recap
Recapping the arguments made by both sides in the impeachment trial – GW Law Professors Andrew Knaggs, who formerly served in the Trump administration, and Peter J. Smith, a former Justice Department lawyer, join host Jeffrey Rosen.
68 min
Will the Equal Rights Amendment be Adopted?
Explaining the latest developments in efforts to adopt the Equal Rights Amendment into the Constitution – Julie Suk and Sai Prakash join host Jeffrey Rosen.
46 min
School Choice and Separation of Church and State
The Supreme Court heard Espinoza v. Montana Department of Revenue this week. Michael Bindas of Institute for Justice and Alice O'Brien of National Education Association join host Jeffrey Rosen to explain the case.
57 min
The Chief, the Senate, and the Trial
Ken Starr, the former independent counsel who investigated President Clinton before his impeachment, and Joan Biskupic, CNN Supreme Court analyst and biographer of Chief Justice Roberts, predict how the Chief will preside over the trial and how disputes over procedure may play out in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
35 min
Was the Qasem Soleimani Strike Constitutional?
War powers experts John Bellinger and Oona Hathaway grapple with the legal and constitutional controversies surrounding the U.S. airstrike that killed Iranian military leader Gen. Qassem Soleimani last week –in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
56 min
Understanding the Four Executive-Branch-Subpoen...
Four major cases currently in the courts center around subpoenas – as Congress and, separately, a state grand jury request financial documents from President Trump, and Congress seeks testimony from former White House Counsel Don McGahn. Explaining these important cases, which could have major implications for separation of powers, guests Steve Vladeck and Andy Grewal join host Jeffrey Rosen.
53 min
2019: A Constitutional Year in Review
David French and Kate Shaw recap the biggest constitutional debates of 2019 with host Jeffrey Rosen.
63 min
RBG on Life, Love, Liberty, and Law
Justice Ruth Bader Ginsburg sits down with Jeffrey Rosen to share invaluable life lessons, reflect on her career, and discuss Jeff’s new book Conversation with RBG: Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Life, Love, Liberty and Law.
70 min
Should President Trump Be Impeached?
Vice Chair of the House Judiciary Committee Rep. Mary Gay Scanlon and some of her congressional colleagues, as well as leading constitutional scholars, share their candid thoughts on impeachment live at the National Constitution Center.
83 min
Is There a Constitutional Right to Transport a ...
Do gun owners have a right to travel with their firearms outside of their city or any place else? Second Amendment experts Darrell Miller and Clark Neily join host Jeffrey Rosen to discuss that question at the center of a c ase just heard by the Supreme Court.
57 min
What Would Madison Think of the Presidency Today?
Tracing the history of the American presidency and exploring the biggest controversy surrounding it today – impeachment – scholars Sean Wilentz and Sai Prakash join host Jeffrey Rosen.
61 min
Dueling Platform Policies and Free Speech Online
Twitter has decided to ban paid political advertising, while Facebook has not– will either policy have unintended consequences for free speech principles online? Digital speech experts Ellen Goodman of Rutgers University Law School and Eugene Volokh of UCLA Law join host Jeffrey Rosen to discuss.
64 min
Can the Trump Administration End DACA?
The Trump administration’s decision to end Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals (DACA) is being challenged at the Supreme Court, and argument was held earlier this week. Brianne Gorod and Josh Blackman join host Jeffrey Rosen to explore those challenges.
49 min
Conversations with RBG
Host Jeffrey Rosen unveils his new book Conversations with RBG: Ruth Bader Ginsburg on Life, Love, Liberty, and Law in a live interview with Slate’s Dahlia Lithwick.
68 min
Is Brexit a British Constitutional Crisis?
Joining us from London, two experts on Brexit – Meg Russell of University College London and Kim Lane Scheppele of Princeton – explain its impact on the UK Constitution.
59 min
What Does the Constitution Say About Impeachment?
Detailing the process for impeachment set out by the Constitution – host Jeffrey Rosen is joined by former Rep. Elizabeth Holtzman, who served on the House Judiciary Committee during the Nixon impeachment, and Gene Healy of the Cato Institute.
65 min
Can Employees Be Fired for Being LGTBQ?
Employment discrimination against LGBTQ people is at the center of three cases that were argued at the Supreme Court last week; Karen Loewy, Senior Counsel for Lambda Legal, and Professor David Upham of the University of Dallas explain the arguments on both sides of these cases in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
54 min
Two Federal Judges on How They Interpret the Co...
Chief Judge Diane Wood of the U.S. Court of Appeals for the 7th Circuit and Judge Jeffrey Sutton of the 6th Circuit debate how the Constitution should be interpreted and discuss their experiences as Supreme Court clerks, and more, in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
55 min
We the People Live: Supreme Court 2019 Term Pre...
This week, We the People partnered with SCOTUSblog's podcast SCOTUStalk for a Supreme Court preview, recorded live at the National Constitution Center. Host Jeffrey Rosen was joined by SCOTUSblog's Amy Howe and John Elwood.
59 min
The Battle for the Constitution: Live at The At...
This week, the National Constitution Center in partnership with The Atlantic launched a new web project: “The Battle for the Constitution”— a year-long exploration of the major issues and controversies surrounding the Constitution today from all sides of the debate. At the Atlantic Ideas Festival on September 25, the NCC and the Atlantic celebrated the launch with a series of panels featuring scholars, journalists and legislators.
97 min
Justice Neil Gorsuch, Live at America’s Town Hall
Justice Gorsuch discusses civics and civility, the importance of separation of powers, what originalism means to him, and why he is optimistic about the future of America with NCC President Jeffrey Rosen.
62 min
Madison vs. Mason
Profiling two Virginian Founding Fathers and parsing the differences between their constitutional visions – scholars Colleen Sheehan and Jeff Broadwater join host Jeffrey Rosen.
60 min
When Should Judges Issue Nationwide Injunctions?
What are nationwide injunctions, and are they constitutional? Two experts on nationwide injunctions, Amanda Frost of American University’s Washington College of Law and Howard Wasserman of Florida International University Law School, join host Jeffrey Rosen to dive into those questions.
49 min
The Next Big Second Amendment Case?
A challenge to a New York City gun regulation could be the Supreme Court’s first major Second Amendment ruling in almost a decade. Adam Winkler of UCLA Law and Ilya Shapiro of the CATO Institute discuss the case with host Jeffrey Rosen.
46 min
The Lincoln-Douglas Debates
Battles over the future of slavery in the nation and the territories, the nature and extent of individual rights and the meaning of equality, and whether and how the union could survive characterized the Lincoln-Douglas debates; historians Sidney Blumenthal and Lucas Morel explore the debates with host Jeffrey Rosen.
61 min
Live at America's Town Hall: George F. Will
Pulitzer Prize-winning journalist George F. Will discusses his political and constitutional philosophy with Jeffrey Rosen.
63 min
The Federalists vs. the Anti-Federalists
What were the biggest constitutional debates between the Federalists and the Anti-Federalists? Scholars Jack Rakove and Mike Rappaport join host Jeffrey Rosen to explore those debates.
56 min
When does Twitter-blocking violate the First Am...
President Trump violated the First Amendment by blocking people on Twitter based on their viewpoints, according to a recent decision by the Second Circuit. Debating this decision, First Amendment experts David French and Katie Fallow join host Jeffrey Rosen.
48 min
The Constitutional Legacy of Seneca Falls
Exploring the legacy of the nation’s first women’s rights convention and the ensuing movements that shaped the Constitution, gender law experts Erika Bachiochi of the Ethics & Public Policy Center and Tracy A. Thomas of the University of Akron School of Law join host Jeffrey Rosen.
63 min
Remembering Justice John Paul Stevens
Two of Justice Stevens' former law clerks, Daniel Farber of Berkeley Law and Kate Shaw of Cardozo Law, share some favorite memories from their clerkships and remember some of the late justice's landmark majority opinions and dissents, in conversation with host Jeffrey Rosen.
46 min
What Happened After the Burr/Hamilton Duel?
On the anniversary of the duel in which Vice President Aaron Burr killed Alexander Hamilton, this episode explores Burr’s ensuing treason trial and its lasting implications today. Host Jeffrey Rosen is joined by Burr historians Nancy Isenberg and Kevin Walsh.
53 min
Supreme Court 2018-19 Term Recap
We review the Supreme Court 2018-19 term and explore Chief Justice Roberts’ newfound role as the swing justice with guests Ilya Shapiro of Cato and Leah Litman of the University of Michigan Law School. Jeffrey Rosen hosts.
56 min
Live at America's Town Hall: The Human Side of ...
Moderators Michael Lewis and Jeff Rosen sit down with current and former judges for candid conversations on how they have managed the challenges their role often requires them to face and how they have approached their work.
76 min
The Declaration of Independence and its Influen...
Exploring the influence of the Declaration of Independence on political and constitutional movements throughout American history – Danielle Allen of Harvard University and Ken Kersch of Boston College join host Jeffrey Rosen.
55 min
Should Big Tech be Broken Up?
Antitrust law experts Barry Lynn of Open Markets Institute and Mark Jamison of American Enterprise Institute discuss the new investigations into leading big tech companies and what the consequences might be for the future of antitrust.
66 min
The Constitutional Stakes of the 2020 Election
Exploring the possible consequences of the 2020 election for the Supreme Court and the Constitution—Professors Bruce Ackerman of Yale Law School and Randy Barnett of Georgetown Law join host Jeffrey Rosen.
49 min
A Fetal Right to Life?: Abortion and the Consti...
Exploring the recent Supreme Court decision in Box v. Planned Parenthood and the “fetal personhood” debate—National Review’s David French and law professor and historian Mary Ziegler join host Jeffrey Rosen.
59 min
Will Roe be Overturned?: Abortion and the Const...
Two leading lawyers on either side of the abortion debate—Kathryn Kolbert and Clarke Forsythe— dive into the history of the Supreme Court’s key abortion cases, including Roe and Casey, and analyze whether currently pending and future abortion cases might lead the Court to revisit or overturn Roe.
48 min
Are we in a Constitutional Crisis?
Adam Liptak of the New York Times and Keith Whittington of Princeton University join host Jeffrey Rosen to examine the recent conflicts between the executive and legislative branches, and answer the question: what is a constitutional crisis, and are we in one now?
61 min
Henry Louis Gates, Jr., Live at America’s Town ...
Henry Louis Gates, Jr. tells the story of Reconstruction and Redemption in conversation with NCC President and host Jeffrey Rosen.
45 min
Is Asking About Citizenship on the Census Uncon...
Would adding a citizenship question to the census—which a recent lawsuit argues could dissuade people from responding to it— violate the Constitution’s enumeration clause, which requires that an “actual enumeration”, or a counting, of all Americans be performed every ten years? Does it matter how and why the question is added? Debating these questions are the Brennan Center’s Tom Wolf and Chapman University School of Law Professor John Eastman. Jeffrey Rosen hosts.
52 min
A Constitutional Recap of the Mueller Report
This episode sheds constitutional light on the Mueller report, focusing on obstruction. Host Jeffrey Rosen is joined by Mary McCord, senior litigator at Georgetown Law’s Institute for Constitutional Advocacy and Protection, and Josh Blackman, associate professor of law at the South Texas College of Law in Houston.
53 min
The Julian Assange Indictment and the First Ame...
Where does the First Amendment draw the line between constitutionally protected journalism and unlawful cyber-crime? Josh Geltzer of Georgetown University Law Center and Ben Wizner of the ACLU join host Jeffrey Rosen to debate this question that has been reignited by the indictment of WikiLeaks Founder Julian Assange.
48 min
Kisor v. Wilkie: A Case to Watch
How did a Vietnam War veteran’s request for disability benefits turn into one of the key Supreme Court cases of this term, one with major implications for the future of the administrative state? Jonathan Adler of Case Western Law School and Ron Levin of Washington University in St. Louis School of Law explain. Jeffrey Rosen hosts.
53 min
The Future of the Affordable Care Act
Exploring the latest challenge to the constitutionality of the Affordable Care Act—experts Abbe Gluck of Yale and Tom Miller of AEI join host Jeffrey Rosen.
48 min
Will the Supreme Court End Partisan Gerrymander...
Nick Stephanopoulos, one of the attorneys in the North Carolina gerrymandering case before the Supreme Court this week and a law professor at University of Chicago, debates Hans von Spakovsky, manager of the Election Law Reform Initiative at the Heritage Foundation, on whether the Supreme Court should strike down partisan gerrymandering as violating the Constitution, and more. Jeffrey Rosen hosts.
50 min
When Can the President Claim Executive Privilege?
John Yoo of Berkeley Law and Steve Vladeck of University of Texas Law join host Jeffrey Rosen for a wide-ranging discussion on executive privilege, focusing on potential executive privilege claims by President Trump in various scenarios including the Mueller report, the House obstruction inquiry, and pending civil lawsuits against Trump.
50 min
The Death Penalty at the Supreme Court
Several key death penalty cases came before the Supreme Court this term; capital punishment experts Richard Broughton and John Bessler join host Jeffrey Rosen to analyze the cases and what they might mean for the future of the death penalty.
49 min
Should the Government Regulate Speech on Campus?
Would President Trump’s proposed executive order requiring colleges and universities to support free speech if they want federal research dollars be constitutional? And is it a good idea? Free speech on campus experts Sigal Ben-Porath and Adam Kissel join host Jeffrey Rosen to grapple with this question.
64 min
The Future of Abortion Laws at the Supreme Court
Two leading voices from organizations on different sides of today's biggest debates over abortion laws—Catherine Glenn Foster of Americans United for Life and Dr. Kelli Garcia of National Women's Law Center—explore the key cases making their way up to the Supreme Court with host Jeffrey Rosen.
58 min
Is the Presidency Too Powerful?
Have American presidents usurped greater power over time, or did Congress and the people surrender power? Listen for the answer to this and other fascinating questions about the power of the presidency as Julian Zelizer and Eric Posner join host Jeffrey Rosen.
57 min
The Tennessee Wine Case and the 21st Amendment
A lawsuit over residency requirements for retail liquor licenses in Tennessee has raised an array of legal and constitutional questions; two advocates involved in the case, Michael Bindas and John Neiman, join host Jeffrey Rosen to discuss them all.
57 min
Can the Equal Rights Amendment be Revived?
Exploring whether the Equal Rights Amendment can be revived, and the possible legal, political, and cultural effects it could bring about if ratified and added to the Constitution– Jeffrey Rosen is joined by Linda Coberly of the national ERA Coalition’s Legal Task Force and Inez Stepman of the Independent Women’s Forum.
72 min
Football, Faith, and the First Amendment
Was a high school coach unconstitutionally fired for praying on a football field? First Amendment experts Stephanie Barclay and Richard Katskee explore this question and many others with host Jeffrey Rosen.
59 min
MLK's Constitutional Legacy
Civil rights and constitution experts Ted Shaw and Michael Klarman join guest host Lana Ulrich for an exploration of Dr. Martin Luther King Jr.’s constitutional legacy.
53 min
Is the Second Amendment a “Second Class Right”?
Has the Second Amendment been adequately protected at the Supreme Court and in lower courts? Gun law experts Clark Neily and Adam Winkler join host Jeffrey Rosen to debate.
62 min
Can the President Declare a National Emergency ...
Breaking down all of the constitutional clauses, cases, and laws related to the president’s suggestion that he may declare a national emergency in order to build the wall, Jeffrey Rosen is joined by Professors Mark Tushnet and Sai Prakash.
55 min
Best of 2018: ‘Madison, the Media, and the Mob’...
Three distinguished (and unrelated) journalists—Jeff Goldberg, Jonah Goldberg, and Michelle Goldberg— join host Jeffrey Rosen to consider what James Madison might think of the media today.
55 min
Best of 2018: Doris Kearns Goodwin, Live at Ame...
Doris Kearns Goodwin sits down with Jeffrey Rosen to discuss the leadership qualities of four legendary presidents.
73 min