<p>Justin Sherman of the Atlantic Council joins to discuss </p><ul><li>Putin's history of cyber operations</li><li>How he sees the current state of play</li><li>What is Putin thinking about as he considers escalating in the cyber domain</li><li>The tradeoffs of various policy choices facing American and Europeans leaders thinking about more aggressive offensive cyber operations</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Please consider making a donation at https://www.globalgiving.org/projects/ukraine-crisis-relief-fund/faq/#menu</p><br><p>Outtro music: KALUSH - Не маринуй https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AqG2pkbRgr8&amp;list=PLQCynOki8DRB9hWY1WiAV03bXcjrV3Txd</p><p> </p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>What’s the point of NASA? Will Starlink end up funding Elon’s Mars dreams? To discuss the US space ecosystem in both the private and public sector, I am joined by Casey Handmer (<a href="https://twitter.com/cjhandmer" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@CJHandmer</a>), former NASA Jet Propulsion Lab system architect and founder of Terraform Industries.</p><br><p>We also talk about</p><p><br></p><ul><li>The potential for Starlink to improve internet access in developing countries</li><li>Whether the US immigration system is hurting its ability to attract the best scientists</li><li>Making electricity from air</li><li>How much it would cost to send me into space</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Check out Casey’s blog here: <a href="https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://caseyhandmer.wordpress.com</a></p><br><p>Outtro music: To The Moon by Jnr Choi</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrbpG6UI7c" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wzrbpG6UI7c</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>Do you know your breaking porcelain from your eating human-blood-soaked steam buns? Slow Chinese author Andrew Methven (<a href="https://twitter.com/AndrewMethven" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">@AndrewMethven</a>) joins me to talk about some of the newest and most interesting Chinese internet slang from the previous year and their origin stories.</p><br><p>We discuss new words and phrases inspired by Haidilao cockroach scams, misbehaving tech companies and 996 culture, as well as:</p><p><br></p><ul><li>Which slang phrases have been co-opted into party talk</li><li>Luckin Coffee founder Charles Lu’s latest venture</li><li>Whether idioms are fortelling the fates of Chinese celebrities</li><li>The best sites Chinese-language sites and accounts for Chinese news</li></ul><p><br></p><p>See Andrew’s full list here:</p><p><a href="https://newsletter.slowchinese.net/p/china-in-2021-in-21-words" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://newsletter.slowchinese.net/p/china-in-2021-in-21-words</a></p><br><p>Outro Music: Hip Hop No Party MC (嘻哈沒有派對) HotDog (熱狗) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzfMegHg2tY" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PzfMegHg2tY</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

A return to Cultural Revolution era diplomacy?

My Fair Lady-ing guerrilla generals, why Chinese diplomats can't get a date, and reading 100+ Chinese political memoirs

<p>What can US-China relations learn from US-Japan relations in the leadup to WWII? To discuss, I’m joined by Stony Brook University’s Michael Barnhart, author of the 1987 <em>Japan Prepares for Total War: The Search for Economic Security, 1919–1941</em> and the more recent <em>Can You Beat Churchill?: Teaching History through Simulations</em> (<a href="https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Beat-Churchill-Simulations/dp/1501755641" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Can-You-Beat-Churchill-Simulations/dp/1501755641</a>), with Scholar’s Stage essayist Tanner Greer (@Scholars_Stage) cohosting.</p><br><p>We discuss</p><ul><li>What motivated Japan to invade China</li><li>Why FDR was particularly worried about a Japanese invasion of the USSR</li><li>Why Japan and the Nazis thought the West would be on their side</li><li>The benefits of paying attention to mid level bureaucrats</li></ul><p><br></p><p>For an ad-free feed, please consider supporting ChinaTalk on <a href="https://patreon.com/chinatalk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Patreon</a> or <a href="https://chinatalk.substack.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Substack</a>!</p><br><p>Outro music: Bei Mir Bist Du Shein by The Andrew Sisters <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe2UXccid40" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xe2UXccid40</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>See here for the Year in Review in text form with lots of links: https://chinatalk.substack.com/p/2021-year-in-review-future-plans</p><br><p>Support ChinaTalk on Patreon at https://patreon.com/chinatalk</p><br><p>Fill out this form to help my 'market research' on how to construct the CCP course! https://forms.gle/dXKjzfXWyxyi2ixg9</p><br><p>Wanna cohost a ChinaTalk episode? Fill out this form here: https://docs.google.com/forms/d/e/1FAIpQLSe0DIG0PlM3PxRZVoBs6BZYiTgQr8945Y44llRazzqQVzwwjw/viewform</p><br><p>Here's how to record a voice memo. https://www.npr.org/2017/08/15/496888150/nprs-guide-to-sending-audio</p><br><p>Outtro music: 弹壳 Danko - 《ANYWAY》https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OLcEXu4cSUA </p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>NYT bestselling YA author Xiran Jay Zhao (@XiranJayZhao) joins me to talk about her new book, Iron Widow, a Pacific Rim meets Handmaiden's tale sci-fi retelling of the story of Wu Zetian. Co-hosting is ChinaTalk's editor Callan Quinn (@quinnishvili).</p><br><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>Chinese history Easter eggs in Iron Widow</li><li>Going viral and Youtube China content</li><li>How censorship is stifling creativity in C-dramas</li><li>Why Xiran thinks Confucius was an arsehole</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Link to Iron Widow:</p><p><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Iron-Widow-Xiran-Jay-Zhao/dp/0735269939" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Iron-Widow-Xiran-Jay-Zhao/dp/0735269939</a></p><br><p>Rhodium' careers site: https://rhg.com/careers/</p><br><p>Outtro Music: Lexie Liu's Manta: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4fvUnPl5_BA</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>What's it like to live across the US-China scientific divide? Yale Law School postdoc, particle physicist and essayist Yangyang Cheng (@yangyang_cheng) joins me alongside undergrad Alex Liang to talk about understanding the other, how the personal can be lost in the noise of geopolitical tension and science across borders.</p><br><p>We also discuss</p><ul><li>Power hierarchies and identities</li><li>The “new red scare” and scrutiny on Chinese scientists</li><li>The Large Hadron Collider as a</li><li>Language as an instrument of state power</li><li>"Brain drain" and other phrases Yangyang doesn't like</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Please consider supporting ChinaTalk on Patreon at https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk</strong></p><br><p>Links to Yangyang’s articles:</p><p><a href="https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-china-US.html" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.nytimes.com/2020/04/03/opinion/sunday/coronavirus-china-US.html</a></p><p><a href="https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/05/west-china-threat-real-place-domestic-agendas" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2021/oct/05/west-china-threat-real-place-domestic-agendas</a></p><p><a href="https://thebulletin.org/premium/2020-12/the-edge-of-our-existence-a-particle-physicist-examines-the-architecture-of-society/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://thebulletin.org/premium/2020-12/the-edge-of-our-existence-a-particle-physicist-examines-the-architecture-of-society/</a></p><br><p>Outro music: I Wish I Knew How It Would Feel to Be Free by Nina Simone <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inNBpizpZkE" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=inNBpizpZkE</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>Dewey Murdick, director of CSET, discusses how the organization has brought a new level of rigor to hot topics ranging from chips to immigration and AI safety policy. </p><p> </p><p>We also discuss:</p><ul><li><a href="https://cset.georgetown.edu/publication/cset-map-of-science/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">CSET's Map of Science</a> and the fate of Google Scholar</li><li>Being beholden to the checkbooks of funders</li><li>Topics that make policymakers' eyes roll - but shouldn't</li><li>The optimal employment conditions for growing temperate, nice, low-ego, tasty fruit</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk for an ad-free feed.</p><br><p>Outtro music that Dewey eventually got around to sending me: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=41U78QP8nBk</a> Daisy Bell - the first computer to sing</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

A ChinaTalk Radioplay!

How does reading the People‘s Daily change your brain?

How the Chinese Government Buys Western Social Media

<p>Red Roulette, Desmond Shum’s memoir of a fast life, deep in the bowels of Chinese politics, is the bombshell China book of 2021. It tells the story of his rise from an impoverished childhood in cultural revolution-era Shanghai and Hong Kong to his marriage to his social climbing wife with ties to the premier of China, and ultimate downfall as Xi’s anti-corruption push caught up with him.&nbsp;</p><br><p>New York Times reporter Mike Forsythe (@PekingMike) and Lizzi C Lee (@wstv_lizzi), a journalist at the independent Chinese outlet Wall St TV, join me to discuss. We get into:</p><ul><li>Corruption crackdowns under Xi Jinping</li><li>Western reporters reporting on China</li><li>The not-so-well-hidden fortunes of Politburo members</li><li>The dietary habits of traveling Chinese officials</li></ul><p><br></p><p>For an ad-free feed, please consider supporting ChinaTalk on Patreon at <a href="https://patreon.com/chinatalk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://patreon.com/chinatalk</a></p><br><p>Outtro music: The Reform Group is Two Years Old by CCTV feat. Xi Jinping <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhU8C5RCbBs&amp;t=3s" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xhU8C5RCbBs&amp;t=3s</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>China's energy problems are back in the news. Joining me to discuss them is <a href="https://twitter.com/YanQinyq?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Yan Qin</a>, lead analyst at Refinitiv, with my Rhodium colleague Irina Liu as co-host.</p><br><p>We discuss</p><ul><li>Whether China is serious about its climate pledge</li><li>Why Chinese industry is moving westwards</li><li>How "carbon neutral" became a hot topic</li><li>The importance of global cooperation on climate change</li></ul><p><br></p><p>For an ad-free feed, please consider supporting ChinaTalk on Patreon here <a href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352</a></p><br><p>check out <a href="masterworks.io/chinatalk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">masterworks.io/chinatalk</a> to buy some art!</p><br><p>Outtro music: 020 by Tizzy T <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKqjZMA-F88" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vKqjZMA-F88</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

DoD vet explores the underbelly of America's R&D and acquisitions ecosystems

<p>Hosts of the Dongfang Hour (<a href="https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3UXwB0UbUIg4z4vssUHPBw" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/channel/UC3UXwB0UbUIg4z4vssUHPBw</a>), a podcast focusing on the Chinese aerospace industry, Blain Curcio and Jean Deville join me in another ChinaTalk space episode to talk about launches in China and public enthusiasm for space projects.</p><br><p>We discuss</p><ul><li>The Belt and Road in space</li><li>The differences between the Starlink and Guowang networks</li><li>Europe’s dilemma on selling to the US and China</li><li>China’s ambitious space projects in the 2020s</li><li>Why the vibe in the Chinese private space industry is “smiley and optimistic”</li></ul><p><br></p><p><strong>Check out https://www.masterworks.io/chinatalk </strong></p><br><p><strong>Please consider supporting the show</strong> at <strong>https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk</strong></p><br><p>Outtro Music: Young Thug ft Elton Jon https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qqIyH_9uaOQ</p><p><br></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>Logan Wright of the Rhodium Group returns to the pod to discuss Evergrande's implosion, how we got here, and what this week means for China's economy. </p><br><p>Read Credit and Credibility! https://www.csis.org/analysis/credit-and-credibility-risks-chinas-economic-resilience If you only have time for one section, start with section 6. </p><br><p>Check out Jon's substack here https://jonathonpsine.substack.com/</p><br><p>Come work for Rhodium! https://rhg.com/careers/</p><br><p>My email is jorschneider @ gmail or on twitter at https://twitter.com/jordanschnyc </p><br><p>Outtro music: 朱添澤 - 想 https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kfRvjlcMuoY</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>Julia Lovell, author of <em>Maoism: A Global History</em> and <em>The Opium War: Drugs, Dreams and the Making of China</em>, discusses translating <em>Journey to the West (</em><a href="https://www.amazon.com/Monkey-King-Journey-Classics-Hardcover/dp/0143107186" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.amazon.com/Monkey-King-Journey-Classics-Hardcover/dp/0143107186</a>), for English audiences.</p><br><p>Joined by translator Brendan O'Kane as co-host, on this episode we discuss:</p><ul><li>The origins of <em>Journey to the West</em> and the exploits of its primate protagonist Sun Wukong.</li><li>Mao's relationship to the novel and how he saw himself in the Monkey King.</li><li>Why performances of the story in the Mao era cut out more than 90% of the story</li></ul><p>Outtro music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA78U8sWn0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA78U8sWn0</a> Great Sage Equal to Heaven by Hua Chenyu</p><br><p>Want to meet up in the bay Oct 5-10th? Hit me up on twitter or at jorschneider @ gmail</p><br><p>Outtro music: <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA78U8sWn0" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvA78U8sWn0</a> Great Sage Equal to Heaven by Hua Chenyu</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>How did Russian imperial ambitions and expansionism eastward change over time?</p><br><p>Joining me on this episode is <a href="https://twitter.com/crmiller1?lang=en" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Chris Miller</a>, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/We-Shall-Be-Masters-Russian/dp/0674916441" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">We Shall Be Masters: Russian Pivots to East Asia from Peter the Great to Putin</a>. Chris is a history professor at the <a href="http://fletcher.tufts.edu/Fletcher_Directory/Directory/Faculty%20Profile?personkey=65A0F72B-6D23-479D-860F-DDDDEC8B5D5F" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Fletcher School </a>and Eurasia Director at the <a href="https://www.fpri.org/research/eurasia/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Foreign Policy Research Institute</a>.</p><p>Cohosting is independent researcher, journalist and fellow at the Wilson Center’s Kennan Institute&nbsp;<a href="https://twitter.com/kamilkazani?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Kamil Galeev</a>. Reach out to him <a href="https://twitter.com/kamilkazani?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">on twitter</a> if you have a place for him to live in DC!</p><p>We also look at:</p><ul><li>How the fur trade spurred Russian interest in Alaska, California and Hawaii</li><li>Russia, the Kuomintang and the Communist Party</li><li>Why Xinjiang didn’t end up like Mongolia</li><li>Chairman Mao’s new shoes</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Outtro music: Kamil's suggestion of what he tells me was a Soviet anti-Japanese war song (it slaps) </p><p>Три танкиста (three tank men) <a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp22_BHJDJk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kp22_BHJDJk</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>I was a guest on the Compounding Curiosity podcast, a new show founded by a ChinaTalk fan that focuses on ASEAN, and we had a halfway decent conversation! Hope you enjoy.</p><br><p>Mentioned Content:</p><ul><li><a href="https://www.lowyinstitute.org/publications/after-xi" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">After Xi: Future Scenarios for Leadership Succession in Post-xi Jinping Era</a></li><li><a href="https://www.amazon.com/China-Under-Mao-Revolution-Derailed/dp/0674975499" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">China Under Mao: A Revolution Derailed by Andrew G. Walder</a></li></ul><p><br></p><p>Outtro Music: 功夫胖KUNGFU-PEN -《阿修罗》https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cRAO-f6LxUI</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>How much credit can the CCP claim post-1949 for the higher level of human development relative to the level of visible capital in China? To discuss, historian <a href="https://adamtooze.substack.com/'" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Adam Tooze</a> and Matt Klein of <a href="https://theovershoot.co/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">the Overshoot</a> come for their third ChinaTalk appearance. We go back to the oft-forgotten hyperinflation of the 1940s to why in the 80s the World Bank believed a little bit of policy tinkering would lead China’s economy to skyrocket.</p><br><p><strong>Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at </strong><a href="https://patreon.com/chinatalk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank"><strong>https://patreon.com/chinatalk</strong></a><strong> for an ad-free feed!</strong></p><br><p>For a transcript and links to the stuff we talked about, check out the newsletter at https://chinatalk.substack.com/</p><br><p>Wanna cohost a ChinaTalk episode? <a href="https://forms.gle/NA9TZDE9zvUfURMW8" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Submit ideas for shows here</a>!</p><br><p>Outtro music: Capper - "牧羊少年/Ἐνδυμίων" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kRQoE6dRGSo</p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>How did SpaceX revolutionize the global space industry? To discuss SpaceX's origin story and secret sauce, guest Eric Berger, author of <a href="https://www.amazon.com/Liftoff-Desperate-Early-Launched-SpaceX/dp/0062979973" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">Liftoff: Elon Musk and the Desperate Early Days That Launched SpaceX</a>, joins the show. Cory Fitz, author of the TaikoNautica newsletter on China's space industry (<a href="http://taikonautica.substack.com" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">http://taikonautica.substack.com</a>), cohosts and shares his perspective on the Chinese launch ecosystem.</p><br><p>We discuss:</p><ul><li>How SpaceX almost didn't succeed</li><li>The role of government in the commercial space industry</li><li>996 culture vs SpaceX engineers</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at <a href="https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.patreon.com/ChinaTalk</a> </p><br><p>Outro music: Space Oddity by David Bowie</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYRH4apXDo" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iYYRH4apXDo</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

<p>@BadChinaTake, an anonymous twitter account that combined vicious takedowns of, well, bad china takes with a blog <a href="https://wokeglobaltimes.com/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://wokeglobaltimes.com/</a> that does deep dives into everything from tankie subcultures to China’s xinjiang policy, is one of the best things to hit China twitter. BadChinaTake was recently unmasked as Jake Eberts, a young DC-based China analyst. He joins us today to talk about his journey to twitter infamy. We get into</p><ul><li>Whether the CIA, Chinese government, or George Soros fund him</li><li>Crisis, danger and opportunity</li><li>Whether you should argue with children online</li><li>The DC think tank complex and China Twitter’s redeemable qualities</li></ul><p><br></p><p>Please consider supporting ChinaTalk at <a href="https://glow.fm/chinatalk/" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://glow.fm/chinatalk/</a></p><p>Outro music: 不再是少年 by 猛虎巧克力</p><p><a href="https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0wuSbUl2gM" rel="noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S0wuSbUl2gM</a></p> <a target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href="https://open.acast.com/public/patreon/fanSubscribe/1959352">Get bonus content on Patreon</a><br /><hr><p style='color:grey; font-size:0.75em;'> See <a style='color:grey;' target='_blank' rel='noopener noreferrer' href='https://acast.com/privacy'>acast.com/privacy</a> for privacy and opt-out information.</p>

China’s space startups can't find their customer base