Kibbe on Liberty

The revolution is here. A movement of people free to live, work, and choose. We won’t tell you what to think, we just demand that you think for yourself. This is Kibbe on Liberty.

Libertarian Matt Kibbe puts aside politics to have mostly honest conversations with mostly interesting people. Mostly because it’s really hard to be honest and interesting at the same time. Mostly because we want to have some fun, even as we argue about things that really matter—you know, things like beer. Kibbe digs a little deeper with guests from all over the political spectrum: Right, Left, and libertarian; smart, independent people who don’t give a damn about your preferred political tribe. Let’s listen and learn together. Subscribe to Kibbe on Liberty, the counter-counter-revolution of social media. Because endless virtue-signaling is a total buzzkill.

News Commentary
Ep 195 | The Government Is Waging a War on Smal...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Carol Roth, author of “The War on Small Business,” to discuss the many ways in which government policy favors huge corporations and makes life hard for the independent business owner.
55 min
Ep 194 | We Need a Participatory Health Policy ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Stanford University epidemiologists Jay Bhattacharya and John Ioannidis to discuss the interaction between science and health policy.
73 min
Ep 193 | Are We in a Perfect Storm of Recession...
Matt Kibbe talks with Gene Epstein, director of the Soho Forum, about the economy, inflation, and whether or not the United States is set to experience a severe recession.
68 min
Ep 192 | The War on Misinformation Is a Disaste...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Jenin Younes, litigation counsel for the New Civil Liberties Alliance, to discuss the lawsuit filed by two attorneys general against the federal government over online censorship.
45 min
Ep 191 | Without Comedy, Society Collapses | Gu...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Lou Perez, comedian and author of “That Joke Isn’t Funny Anymore,” to talk about the future of comedy in a world where taking offense has risen to the level of a competitive sport.
45 min
Ep 190 | Take the Politics Out of Crowdfunding ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Heather Wilson and Jacob Wells, co-founders of GiveSendGo, a crowdfunding website that doesn’t discriminate based on differences in ideology.
50 min
Ep 189 | Can a Society Exist Without Government...
Matt Kibbe sits down with economist David Friedman, one of the original advocates for a stateless society, where all services are provided by markets rather than government.
48 min
Ep 188 | The Babylon Bee Is Fighting Fear with ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Kyle Mann, editor in chief of the Babylon Bee, to talk about the ways in which laughter can cut through the constant anxiety that news outlets and political partisans demand we feel at all times.
44 min
Ep 187 | Lockdowns Threw 100 Million People int...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Dr. Jay Bhattacharya, professor of health policy at Stanford University, to talk about the continued hesitancy of the mainstream media and government scientists to acknowledge the immense harm caused by COVID lockdowns.
84 min
Ep 186 | New Hampshire Libertarians Hold Lockdo...
Matt Kibbe sits down with three members of the New Hampshire Libertarian Party to talk about the Free State Project and the pro-liberty trend in New Hampshire politics.
47 min
Ep 185 | Hollywood Is Dead; Here’s What’s Going...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Jordan and Daniel Harmon, co-founders of Angel Studios, to talk about their new model for financing and distributing movies and television shows.
39 min
Ep 184 | Big Pharma Is Buying Washington’s Vacc...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Adam Andrzejewski, CEO of, to discuss the complex web of payola that exists between major pharmaceutical companies and scientists at the NIH.
42 min
Ep 183 | ESG Scores Are Extremely Dangerous | G...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Clint Russell, host of “Liberty Lockdown,” to talk about how the lockdown policies of the last two years have created the infrastructure to implement a nightmarish regime of social control to rival China’s social credit system.
41 min
Ep 182 | Will Brazil Embrace Liberty or Populis...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Magno Karl, executive director of Livres, to discuss the recent political changes in Brazil.
47 min
Ep 181 | The Road to Racial Justice Is Liberty ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Rachel Ferguson and Marcus Witcher to discuss the ways in which free markets and free people have done more for racial justice and equality than any top-down government program.
51 min
Ep 180 | How Can Young People Be Happy? | Guest...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Leopold Ajami to talk about the philosophy of Ayn Rand and how it can be applied to improve people’s lives in a tangible way.
54 min
Ep 179 | Fighting the Tyranny of Local Governme...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Jesse Ramos to talk about the ways in which individuals can make a difference in local politics.
51 min
Ep 178 | America Is Starting to Look Like China...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Republican congressional candidate Lily Tang Williams to talk about her experiences growing up under Chinese communism and the ways in which the United States is starting to be influenced by the same kinds of authoritarian policies.
45 min
Ep 177 | Disinformation Is a Giant Distraction ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with conservatarian journalist and commentator Olivia Rondeau to talk about the Biden administration’s obsession with fighting alleged disinformation.
53 min
Ep 176 | How Government Created the Baby Formul...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) to discuss the causes and solutions to the current shortage of baby formula in the United States.
36 min
Ep 175 | The Left-Right Political Spectrum Does...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Tony Woodlief to talk about how Americans can address political polarization that leaves us at each other’s throats.
60 min
Ep 174 | A Young Person’s Guide to the War in U...
Matt Kibbe ran into several young persons from Ukraine who were eager to tell the world about what is going on in their country.
23 min
Ep 173 | Ukraine’s Underground Railroad | Guest...
Matt Kibbe talks with Tom Palmer, Andreas Jürgens, and Tomek Kolodziejczuk about their efforts to transport badly needed supplies into Ukraine during the Russian invasion.
46 min
Ep 172 | The Rhetoric of Liberty | Guest: Deird...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Deirdre McCloskey to talk about the language we use as advocates of free market economics.
54 min
Ep 171 | Why America Doesn’t Have Free Speech o...
Ep 171 | Gatekeepers of the Internet | Guest: Glenn Beck
55 min
Ep 170 | Why The SEC Is Coming After Blockchain...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Jeremy Kauffman, CEO of Odysee and LBRY, to talk about how the Blockchain can provide a safe haven for free speech online.
43 min
Ep 169 | Why Democrats Suddenly Declared Victor...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Jenin Younes to discuss the jarring reversal of the Biden administration and other Democratic politicians regarding COVID-19 and lockdown policies.
28 min
Ep 168 | Washington’s War Rhetoric Is Flippant ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Dan Caldwell to discuss the increasingly fervent calls for U.S. intervention in the Russian invasion of Ukraine.
50 min
Ep 167 | Daylight Savings Time: The Only Issue ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Logan Albright, head writer at Free the People, to discuss the numerous and varied evils of the nation's least favorite tradition: Daylight Savings Time.
29 min
Ep 166 | What the 1619 Project Gets Wrong About...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Phil Magness, senior research faculty at AIER, to discuss critical race theory, with specific reference to the New York Times’ 1619 Project.
38 min
Ep 165 | Can We Blockchain Everything? | Guest:...
Matt Kibbe and Blockchain technologist Cody Marx Bailey continue their discussion of the secure, decentralized technology that has the potential to change the world.
29 min
Ep 164 | Blockchain Is the Alternative to Tyran...
39 min
Ep 163 | When ‘Fringe’ Epidemiologists Were Rig...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Phil Magness, senior research faculty at the American Institute for Economic Research, to discuss the rapidly changing narratives on COVID-19.
42 min
Ep 162 | Dispatch From Kyiv | Guest: Nataliya M...
Seventy two hours into the Russian invasion of Ukraine, Matt Kibbe checks in with Nataliya Melnyk, Director of Bendukidze Free Market Center based in Kyiv.
50 min
Ep 161 | DC Shuts Down Veteran-Owned Bar That R...
When Mayor Muriel Bowser announced that restaurants in the District of Columbia would be required to turn away some customers based on their medical history, Eric Flannery told his customers that he would never discriminate against them.
36 min
Ep 160 | Don’t Get Mad, Get Based | Guests: Han...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Hannah Cox and Brad Polumbo to talk about “Based Politics,” their new venture into libertarian-leaning commentary on the absurdity of woke culture.
54 min
Ep 159 | Five Reasons Not to Intervene in Ukrai...
Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) explains to Matt Kibbe why it would be a mistake for the United States to get involved in the mounting conflict between Russia and Ukraine.
27 min
Ep 158 | We Were Right About Lockdowns Before I...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) to review some of the predictions the congressman made about the deleterious effects of lockdowns at the beginning of the COVID-19 pandemic.
58 min
Ep 157 | The Mind of the Censor | Guest: Robert...
What motivates a person to want to silence all competing voices? Matt Kibbe is joined by attorney and author Robert Corn-Revere to discuss this question and others.
55 min
Ep 156 | Are Vaccine Mandates Constitutional? |...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Jenin Younes, litigation counsel for the New Civil Liberties Alliance, to discuss the imminent Supreme Court decision on whether OSHA can legally mandate that workers take the COVID-19 vaccine.
45 min
Ep 155 | Conform or Be Cast Out | Guest: Logan ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Logan Albright, head writer for Free the People. Together they discuss the ways in which the ruling elites have attempted to enforce conformity on the population using stigma, shaming, and often physical violence.
37 min
Ep 154 | The Technocratic Emperor Has No Clothe...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Brian McWilliams and Calum Nicholson to discuss the failures of the technocratic state in managing public health during a pandemic.
64 min
Ep 153 | The Christmas Special | Guests: The Fr...
Matt Kibbe is joined by a tired and slightly hungover Free the People staff to discuss some of the projects that have been keeping them going all year.
48 min
Ep 152 | Is There Any Limit to Government Power...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Robert Alt to discuss whether there are any effective legal mechanisms to limit government power.
47 min
Ep 151 | Congress Shouldn’t Rely on Courts to D...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Sen. Mike Lee (R-Utah) to discuss the bloated end-of-year budget that always keeps Congress in town right up until Christmas.
38 min
Ep 150 | How the Government Grinch Stole Christ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with economist Peter C. Earle to discuss all the policy failures that have led to the Christmas season looking less merry.
56 min
Ep 149 | What Do We Know About the Origins of C...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Matt Ridley, author of “Viral: The Search for the Origin of COVID-19,” to discuss the constantly shifting media narrative surrounding the coronavirus pandemic.
60 min
Ep 148 | Don’t Enable Corrupt Systems; Change T...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Corey Olsen, president of Signum University, to talk about the ways in which higher education has failed to serve students.
62 min
Ep 147 | Capitalism Is the Antidote to Poverty ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Antonella Marty to talk about Latin America’s struggles with socialism, nationalism, and organized crime.
45 min
Ep 146 | To Fix the Supply Chain, Get Out of th...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Jon Miltimore, managing editor at FEE, to talk about the reason why America’s supply chain has broken down and what can be done to fix it.
62 min
Ep 145 | The Real Cuba Is Not What Tourists See...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Maria C. Werlau, executive director at the Free Society Project, to discuss the popular mythologies surrounding Cuba and its record on human rights.
59 min
Ep 144 | Outsmarting the Medical-Industrial Com...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Sen. Rand Paul (R-Ky.) to talk about the ways in which public health officials like Anthony Fauci have misled the American people.
26 min
Ep 143 | The Biggest Threat to Liberty Is Comfo...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Reed Coverdale, host of the Naturalist Capitalist podcast and professional trucker, to talk about the traditional American spirit of liberty and independence.
55 min
Ep 142 | The World Is Getting Better | Guests: ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by James Harrigan and Antony Davies, economists and hosts of the Words & Numbers podcast.
46 min
Ep 141 | Why Won’t Anyone Talk About Natural Im...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) for a conversation that will surely attract the ire of censors everywhere.
53 min
Ep 140 | It’s Dangerous to Support Freedom in A...
Matt Kibbe talks to Khalid Ramizy about the situation in Kabul during the departure of American forces.
48 min
Ep 139 | The West Is in Serious Trouble | Guest...
Matt Kibbe sits down with founder Glenn Beck to discuss his rescue activities in Afghanistan.
62 min
Ep 138 | We Have to Choose Between Dangerous Fr...
Matt Kibbe sits down with comedian JP Sears to talk about his evolution from a spiritual satirist to a champion of freedom.
57 min
Ep 137 | No Americans Left Behind Should Be the...
Matt Kibbe sits down with veteran and congressman Warren Davidson (R-Ohio) to discuss Biden’s botched withdrawal from Afghanistan.
45 min
Ep 136 | Telling Stories of Freedom Through Fil...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Jo Ann Skousen, director of the Anthem Film Festival at FreedomFest in Rapid City, South Dakota.
27 min
Ep 135 | The Afghanistan Withdrawal Was Botched...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Kelley Vlahos from the Quincy Institute and Matt Purple of the American Conservative for an emergency special edition of Kibbe on Liberty to sort out what is happening in Afghanistan.
50 min
Ep 134 | Debating Socialists Is a Dirty Job, Bu...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Gene Epstein, director and moderator of the Soho Forum, to talk about the importance of debating big ideas.
52 min
Ep 133 | Libertarianism in Plain English | Gues...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Tom Woods, host of the Tom Woods Show, who discusses public speaking, communication, and the importance of communicating complex ideas in simple language.
50 min
Ep 132 | Americans Must Reject China-Style Auth...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Lily Tang Williams, a survivor of Mao’s Cultural Revolution, to discuss her concerns about the direction America is going.
47 min
Ep 131 | Communicating Liberty Is No Joke | Gue...
Matt Kibbe sits down with comedian Dave Smith, host of the Part of the Problem podcast, to talk about the diverse ways in which we can communicate libertarian ideas to the broader public.
49 min
Ep 130 | Socialism Has Poisoned Every Aspect of...
Matt Kibbe talks to Martha Bueno, Candidate for Miami Dade County Commissioner and the daughter of Cuban immigrants, about the developing situation in Cuba, where locals are rising up in protest against government oppression.
38 min
Ep 129 | Live Free and Thrive in New Hampshire ...
In the first of a series of shows filmed at this year's PorcFest, Matt Kibbe sits down with organizers Carla Gericke and Dennis Pratt to discuss this remarkable gathering of liberty lovers from all across the nation.
38 min
Ep 128 | Governor Beshear vs. Good Beer | Guest...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Ted Mitzlaff from Goodwood Brewing and Oliver Dunford from the Pacific Legal Foundation to discuss the ways in which the capricious mandates from Kentucky’s governor have all but destroyed the state’s brewing industry.
40 min
Ep 127 | What Happens When Tyranny Comes Home? ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by professor of economics Christopher Coyne to discuss the new book “Tyranny Comes Home.”
61 min
Ep 126 | Progressives View Democracy as an Obst...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Blaze Media founder Glenn Beck to talk about the Great Reset or, as Kibbe calls it, COVID socialism.
53 min
Ep 125 | Does America Still Believe in Second C...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Rep. Nancy Mace (R-SC) to talk about where Republicans have strayed from their traditional values.
41 min
Ep 124 | The Chinese Model Should Be Shunned, N...
Matt Kibbe talks with Li Schoolland, who grew up in China under Mao Zedong, about the many ways that Chinese communism persecutes individuals and crushes opportunity.
62 min
Ep 123 | An Inside Look at the Violence in Jeru...
Matt Kibbe talks to Gil Dagan in Israel about the recent riots and rocket strikes in Jerusalem.
48 min
Ep 122 | Lockdowns Have Us Singing the Blues | ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with blues guitarist Tommy Z to talk about the hazards of living in a blue state, with a governor bent on destroying the live music industry and stoking public fears.
44 min
Ep 121 | No Dignity Without Integrity | Guest: ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Mark Pellegrino, a film and television actor who’s had roles in such successful projects as “The Big Lebowski,” “Lost,” and “Mulholland Drive.”
60 min
Ep 120 | Freedom Lets Ordinary People Do Extrao...
Matt Kibbe sits down with economist Peter Boettke to discuss his new book, “The Struggle for a Better World,” about the hope that comes along with the vision of a free society.
65 min
Ep 119 | What Star Wars Can Teach Us About Hope...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Stephen Kent and Matt Battaglia to discuss the valuable moral and political lessons of the world’s most popular movie franchise.
65 min
Ep 118 | The Dubious History of Anthony Fauci |...
Matt Kibbe sits down with economist Phillip Magness, who has been documenting the historical record of America’s most powerful bureaucrat, Dr. Anthony Fauci.
58 min
Ep 117 | Gun Control Creates Haves and Have Not...
Matt Kibbe is joined by civil rights attorney Matt Larosiere to talk about the government’s various attempts to restrict our access to firearms.
51 min
Ep 116 | Hypochondria as Policy | Guest: Spike ...
Matt Kibbe talks to former Libertarian vice presidential nominee Spike Cohen about government fearmongering and the threat of vaccine passports to liberty.
54 min
Ep 115 | The Culture War Rages Across the Pond ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with U.K.-based rapper Zuby to talk about coronavirus lockdowns in Britain, cancel culture, censorship, and the role of the arts in speaking truth to power.
58 min
Ep 114 | Why Portland Exploded | Guest: Nancy R...
Matt Kibbe talks with journalist Nancy Rommelmann about her experiences covering Antifa and the riots in Portland, Oregon.
51 min
Ep 113 | How Podcasts Will Save America | Guest...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Marc Clair, host of the Lions of Liberty Podcast, to talk about their common medium of podcasting and how it’s transforming the way that people get their information.
56 min
Ep 112 | How Can We Actually Improve Health Car...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Kara Jones, vice president of FREOPP, to discuss practical solutions to America’s ongoing health care crisis.
57 min
Ep 111 | America Is Back ... to Bombing Syria |...
Matt Kibbe talks to Kelley Vlahos about the Biden administration’s foreign policy, which is already looking a lot like Barack Obama’s foreign policy.
51 min
Ep 110 | Time to End the War on Terror | Guest:...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Scott Horton, editorial director of, to talk about why peace is such a difficult sell in Washington, D.C.
70 min
Ep 109 | America Has Abandoned Reason for Fear ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by economist Donald Boudreaux to try to come to grips with the complete lack of rational risk assessment Americans have displayed with respect to the COVID-19 pandemic.
48 min
Ep 108 | The Coming Currency Crisis | Guest: Pe...
Matt Kibbe sits down with author and economist Peter Schiff to talk about why Donald Trump lost, what to expect from the Joe Biden administration, and the dangers of unconstrained government spending.
54 min
Ep 107 | Live by Executive Order, Die by Execut...
Brad Polumbo joins Matt Kibbe to assess Joe Biden’s first speech as president and the policy agenda he has laid out so far.
46 min
Ep 106 | Only School Choice Can Solve Education...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Corey DeAngelis to discuss the shocking failure of government schools to meet the needs of parents and students during the coronavirus lockdowns.
44 min
Ep 105 | If You Want Personal Freedom, Support ...
Matt Kibbe sits down with economist Robert Lawson to talk about his Economic Freedom Index, an annual ranking of the world’s freest—and most unfree—economies.
56 min
Ep 104 | Is the U.S. in a Cold Civil War? | Gue...
Matt Kibbe sits down with Rep. Chip Roy (R-Texas) to talk about the deep political and social divisions running through the country that erupted into violence last week at the U.S. Capitol.
42 min
Ep 103 | To Sell Freedom, Listen More | Guest: ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Brian Nichols to discuss the failures of libertarians to effectively market ideas.
48 min
Ep 102 | The Deep State Isn’t a Partisan Issue ...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Rep. Tulsi Gabbard (D-Hawaii) and Rep. Thomas Massie (R-Ky.) to discuss their bipartisan bill to repeal the Patriot Act.
36 min
Ep 101 | All We Want for Christmas Is 2021 | Gu...
Matt Kibbe is joined by the entire Free the People staff to celebrate another year fighting for freedom.
58 min
Ep 100 | How Driving Embodies the American Spir...
Matt Kibbe is joined by Matthew Crawford to discuss driving as a metaphor for American individualism, independence, and competence.
52 min
Ep 99 | Government Is Crushing Minorities at Ev...
Matt Kibbe is joined by BackWordz frontman Eric July to talk about a whole slate of government policies that are proving unbelievably destructive for the black community.
56 min
Ep 98 | Government Can’t Replace Entrepreneurs ...
Economists Deirdre McCloskey and Alberto Mingardi sit down with Matt Kibbe to discuss their new book, “The Myth of the Entrepreneurial State.”
58 min
Ep 97 | The Supreme Court Is Supremely Disorder...
Matt Kibbe is joined by the Cato Institute’s Ilya Shapiro to talk about how and why the Supreme Court has become so relentlessly politicized and dangerously powerful over the years.
52 min
Ep 96 | Lockdowns Are Unscientific and Dangerou...
Matt Kibbe is joined by biochemical engineer Ivor Cummins, who has been studying the science behind the COVID-19 lockdown mandates that have been the defining feature of 2020.
54 min