The Vergecast

Hello! This is The Vergecast, the flagship podcast of The Verge... and your life. Every Friday, Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn make sense of the week's tech news with help from our wide-ranging staff. And on Tuesdays, Nilay hosts in-depth, one-on-one interviews with major technology leaders. Join us every week for a fun, deeply nerdy, often off-the-rails conversation about what's happening now (and next) in technology and gadgets.

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Tech News
1
CES 2021 / Samsung’s S21 lineup and Galaxy Buds...
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Monica Chin, and Chris Welch dive into all the important announcements from this year's Consumer Electronics Show we saw this week.
59 min
2
Trump banned from Twitter, Facebook, and others...
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Adi Robertson, and Casey Newton chronicle the week since the Capitol riot: Trump gets deplatformed and Parler is removed from the app stores.
67 min
3
The HDMI Holiday Spec-tacular
The Vergecast dedicates an entire episode to the new HDMI 2.1 standard.
77 min
4
Two new antitrust lawsuits against Google / Air...
The Verge's Dieter Bohn, Nilay Patel, and Adi Robertson discuss the two antitrust lawsuits against Google announced this week. Chris Welch joins to discuss his review of Apple's AirPods Max.
68 min
5
Apple announces AirPods Max / Qualcomm presiden...
Nilay and Dieter talk with Qualcomm president Cristiano Amon about Qualcomm's new flagship processor, Snapdragon 888, the potential of 5G, and what he thinks about Apple's new M1 processor.
62 min
6
The FTC is suing Facebook to unwind its acquisi...
Nilay Patel talks with Verge policy editor Russell Brandom, senior reporter Adi Robertson, and contributing editor Casey Newton about the FTC suing Facebook to unwind its acquisitions of Instagram and WhatsApp.
43 min
7
Qualcomm’s Snapdragon 888 processor for 2021 A...
Verge reporter Julia Alexander joins Nilay and Dieter to discuss WarnerMedia's decision to release all of its new 2021 movies simultaneously on HBO Max. News editor Chaim Gartenberg explains Qualcomm's new Snapdragon 888 processor for upcoming Android phones in 2021.
66 min
8
Decoder: Alamo Drafthouse CEO on the future of ...
Nilay Patel talks with Shelli Taylor, who stepped into her new role as CEO of Alamo Drafthouse during the pandemic.
42 min
9
Decoder: Microsoft's Phil Spencer on launching ...
Nilay Patel talks with Phil Spencer, executive vice-president of gaming at Microsoft about the launch of the two new Xboxes.
68 min
10
Apple Macbook Air with M1 review / Apple will r...
Walt Mossberg joins the show to discuss his experience with the Macbooks with the new M1 chip. Nilay, Dieter, Chris, and Dan discuss The Verge's reviews of the computers.
90 min
11
Decoder: The future of remote learning with Sal...
Nilay Patel talks with Sal Khan, the co-founder and CEO of Khan Academy, a nonprofit online learning platform for students in kindergarten through high school.
55 min
12
Apple announces M1 chip computers / iPhone 12 m...
Nilay, Dieter, Dan, and Chaim discuss the new computers Apple announced at their "One More Thing" hardware event, as well as their reviews of the iPhone 12 mini, iPhone 12 Pro Max, and HomePod mini.
62 min
13
Introducing Decoder with Nilay Patel: Mark Cuba...
On the first episode of Decoder, Nilay Patel interviews Mark Cuban.
53 min
14
Xbox Series X, Series S, and PS5 review / Appl...
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Tom Warren discuss reviews of the new game consoles — Microsoft's Xbox Series X and Series S, and Sony's PS5. Oh yeah one more thing...there's an Apple event next week.
50 min
15
Facebook, Twitter take steps to limit the presi...
41 min
16
Tearing down the iPhone 12 with iFixit
The Verge's Dieter Bohn talks with iFixit's Kyle Weins and Kay-Kay Clapp about their teardown reviews, the right to repair, and how to fix the Phone 12.
49 min
17
This week's Section 230 hearing / gadgets go to...
Nilay, Dieter, and Adi discuss the latest Section 230 hearing with Congress featuring the CEOs of big tech. Ashley Carman stops by to talk about how gadget makers are turning to shopping channels to market their products.
69 min
18
iPhone 12 and 12 Pro review with Joanna Stern a...
Dieter reviewed the iPhone 12, Nilay reviewed the iPhone 12 Pro, and Joanna reviewed them both side-by-side.
55 min
19
Quibi is shutting down / Google faces antitrust...
Dieter and Nilay talk to Julia Alexander about Quibi shutting down, Adi Robertson about the US government filing antitrust charges against Google, and Josh Dzieza about his report on Wisconsin's Foxconn factory
80 min
20
Pixel 5 with Android Central and Android Police
This week, Dieter talks with managing editor of Android Central Daniel Bader and Android Police editor-in-chief David Ruddock about the Google’s Pixel 5.
46 min
21
Apple announces iPhone 12, MagSafe charger, Hom...
Nilay, Dieter, and Dan discuss all the announcements from Apple's iPhone event this week — from iPhone 12 to the HomePod mini
74 min
22
Samsung 2020 with Marques Brownlee
48 min
23
Congress releases tech antitrust report / Apple...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn bring in Russell Brandom and Adi Robertson to discuss congressional report about whether Amazon, Facebook, Apple, and Google are violating antitrust law. Dan Seifert stops by to discuss Apple's upcoming iPhone event on October 13th.
95 min
24
Pixel vs Nexus with UrAvgConsumer
Dieter talks with YouTube's UrAvgConsumer about how the recently announced Google Pixel 5 shares some common ground with the Nexus 5 of 2013.
39 min
25
Google announces Pixel 5, Chromecast with Googl...
Nilay, Dieter, Dan, and Chris discuss all the announcements from Google's fall hardware event from this week as well as Sonos suing Google for infringing five more wireless audio patents.
75 min
26
Apple Watch Series 6 with WSJ's Joanna Stern
The Verge's Dieter Bohn talks with senior personal technology columnist at The Wall Street Journal and Verge alum Joanna Stern about Apple's Series 6 Watch.
42 min
27
Amazon announces Ring security drone, new Echo ...
Nilay, Dieter, and Dan discuss all the important announcements from Amazon's fall hardware event this week, from a security drone for your home to a new cloud gaming service.
82 min
28
Microsoft Surface Duo with Engadget's Cherlynn Low
The Verge's Dieter Bohn and Dan Seifert talk with Engadget's Cherlynn Low about their process reviewing Microsoft's Surface Duo.
48 min
29
Apple announces Watch Series 6 and new iPad Air...
Nilay, Dieter, Chaim, and Nicole discuss Apple's newly announced products including the Apple Watch Series 6 and the new iPad Air. Also discussed: the PS5 announced pricing, Oculus has a new headset, and TikTok acquisition news continues to brew.
71 min
30
We ask a biostatistician about the timeline of ...
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Mary Beth Griggs and Nicole Wetsman talk to Dr. Natalie Dean, assistant professor of biostatistics at the University of Florida.
59 min
31
Samsung Galaxy Z Fold 2 review / Android 11 rev...
Nilay, Dieter, and Tom discuss reviews of Samsung's Galaxy Z Fold 2, Microsoft's Surface Duo, and Android 11. Also, previews of the Xbox Series X and Series S.
72 min
32
Marc Levoy on moving from Google to Adobe and t...
The Verge's Nilay Patel talks with former Google engineer Marc Levoy about his move to Adobe, the state of the smartphone camera, and the future of computational photography.
50 min
33
IFA 2020 gadgets / Intel announces 11th Gen Tig...
Nilay, Dieter, Chaim, and Chris dive deep into all the gadget news that dominated this week, including all the announcements at IFA 2020's virtual event showcase.
65 min
34
Recording police brutality: how technology is d...
Capturing the Police is a project from The Verge about how people use technology to bring awareness of police brutality and racism — and what it costs them when they agitate for justice.
49 min
35
Surface Duo hands on / Amazon's Halo fitness tr...
Wired's Lauren Goode returns to the show to discuss Microsoft's soon-to-be released Surface Duo, Amazon's new fitness tracker, and an update on Apple's battle with Epic over the App Store.
81 min
36
Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman welcomes you to Team...
The Verge’s Nilay Patel and Casey Newton talk with Yelp CEO Jeremy Stoppelman about the antitrust complaints against Google, Yelp staying on top of changes during a pandemic, and where Yelp goes next in an evolving America.
45 min
37
Samsung Galaxy Note 20 Ultra review / Galaxy Wa...
Dieter, Dan, and Becca discuss their reviews of Samsung's Galaxy Note 20 Ultra, Galaxy Buds Live, and Galaxy Watch 3.
65 min
38
How money and payments have become social media
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to Lana Swartz, assistant professor of media studies at the University of Virginia about her new book New Money: How Payment Became Social Media.
46 min
39
Fornite kicked off the App Store and Microsoft’...
Nilay, Dieter, Tom, and Dan discuss the timeline of events that lead to Epic Games suing Apple and Google after being kicked out of mobile app stores. They also discuss Microsoft's announcement of the Surface Duo's release date and technical specs.
86 min
40
How a TikTok ban would affect the influencer ec...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks with New York Times reporter Taylor Lorenz about what actually happens to TikTok users, creators, and the influencer economy if a ban on the app was implemented in the United States.
51 min
41
Samsung Unpacked, Google Pixel 4a review, and A...
Nilay, Dieter, Becca, Chris, and Dan discuss the products announced at Samsung's virtual event this week, as well as the Google Pixel 4a review, a new 27-inch iMac, and Greg Joswiak replaces Phil Schiller as head of Apple marketing.
82 min
42
Sen. Ron Wyden says Trump’s Section 230 FCC shu...
The Verge's Nilay Patel and Adi Robertson talk to Senator Ron Wyden, who co-authored Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
35 min
43
Tech antitrust hearing: the important moments a...
Nilay, Makena, Adi, and Casey discuss the important moments from Congress' antitrust hearing with Apple’s Tim Cook, Amazon’s Jeff Bezos, Facebook’s Mark Zuckerberg, and Google’s Sundar Pichai.
64 min
44
Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt fo...
Verge editor-in-chief talks with Wired senior editor Andy Greenberg, author of Sandworm: A New Era of Cyberwar and the Hunt for the Kremlin's Most Dangerous Hackers.
43 min
45
Big tech antittrust hearing preview and the Xbo...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn talk with Casey Newton and Makena Kelly about what to expect at next week's big tech antitrust hearings featuring Jeff Bezos, Tim Cook, Mark Zuckerberg, and Sundar Pichai. Megan Farokhmanesh and Andrew Webster return to discuss the games announced at the Xbox Games Showcase this week.
79 min
46
Election cybersecurity: How ready are we for No...
Cybersecurity journalist Kim Zetter talks with The Verge's Nilay Patel and Russell Brandom about the state of election security in the US.
46 min
47
Twitter gets hacked / NBC's streaming service P...
The Verge's Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Russell Brandom, and Julia Alexander discuss an unprecidented Twitter hack this week, the release of NBCUniversal's new streaming service Peacock, and the potential restrictions on TikTok from the White House.
70 min
48
Will virtual dates stick around after the pande...
A special episode of The Verge's Why'd You Push That Button?
37 min
49
How Color of Change helped lead the Facebook bo...
Nilay Patel talks to Rashad Robinson, president of Color of Change, one of the organizations leading the ad boycott against Facebook and other social media companies.
55 min
50
iOS14 public beta is released, Google’s Pixel 3...
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Dan Seifert discuss Apple's iOS14 public beta, the future of Google's phones, and what to expect at Samsung's next hardware event.
76 min
51
Bug bounties: the good and the bad of computer ...
CEO of Luta Security Katie Moussouris talks about the good, the bad, and ugly of bug bounty programs that catch and report security bugs and vulnerabilities in software systems.
61 min
52
Introducing Land of the Giants: The Netflix Effect
This week we’re sharing an episode of Land of the Giants, a podcast from our friends at Recode and the Vox Media Podcast Network that examines the most powerful tech companies of our time.
36 min
53
Apple announces macOS Big Sur, new silicon chip...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn welcome back Verge alum and Wall Street Journal columnist Joanna Stern to discuss the big announcements from Apple's developer conference this week. Verge news editor Chaim Gartenberg joins in the second half to discuss the Apple updates you may have missed.
90 min
54
Why activists need to think about cybersecurity
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and policy editor Russell Brandom talk to ounder of CryptoHarlem and cybersecurity expert Matt Mitchell.
55 min
55
WWDC predictions / Limiting Section 230 Immuni...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn run through the most interesting rumors and predictions of announcements at Apple's WWDC next week. Adi Robertson joins to discuss the latest threat to Section 230 of the Communications Decency Act.
58 min
56
Basecamp CTO David Heinemeier Hansson and Rep. ...
Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI) joined The Vergecast along with Basecamp CTO David Heinemeier Hansson to discuss the plight of Hey, Basecamp’s new $99-a-year premium email service.
46 min
57
Sen. Ed Markey on the politics of technology
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and Verge reporter Makena Kelly talk to Senator Ed Markey of Massachusetts about bringing broadband access into rural areas, the technology plights caused by the pandemic, privacy concerns over contract tracing, and the race to 5G.
55 min
58
Android 11 beta / PS5 reveal / Amazon, IBM, and...
Nilay and Dieter discuss Android 11 beta first impressions, Google countersuing Sonos, WWDC rumors. Megan Farokhmanesh and Andrew Webster discuss the PS5 hardware reveal and new Playsation games. James Vincent explains big tech's ban on facial recognition tech for police.
91 min
59
Tinder CEO Elie Seidman on finding love during ...
Seidman joins Vergecast host Nilay Patel and Verge senior reporter Ashley Carman for a chat about the future of the platform.
59 min
60
SpaceX launches humans to space / Facebook's on...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn talk to senior science reporter Loren Grush about SpaceX successfully launching their first crew to orbit. Casey Newton stops by to discuss Facebook's moderation policy controversy with Donald Trump's posts.
106 min
61
The head of HBO Max on launching without Roku, ...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and Verge reporter Julia Alexander talk to Otter Media CEO Tony Goncalves on Tony's new project overseeing HBO Max.
52 min
62
Trump signs executive order targeting social me...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn welcome Adi Robertson and Casey Newton on the show to discuss Trump's executive order targeting social media companies like Twitter, Facebook, and Google. Julia Alexander also stops by the discuss the launch of WarnerMedia's new streaming service HBO Max.
87 min
63
Slack CEO Stewart Butterfield on competing with...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to Slack CEO Stewart Butterfield about remote working, competition with Microsoft, and the way technology changes how we communicate.
63 min
64
Microsoft Build 2020, Elon Musk's factory play,...
Nilay and Dieter welcome Tom Warren, Elizabeth Lopatto, and Ashley Carman to discuss Microsoft's developer conference, Elon Musk's active month, and Spotify getting exclusive streaming rights to The Joe Rogan Experience.
79 min
65
Sundar Pichai on managing Google through the pa...
Alphabet CEO and head of Google Sundar Pichai talks with Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn on diversity & Inclusion, the future of their hardware division, and their COVID-19 response.
50 min
66
Questions about Facebook's oversight board, Qui...
Nilay Patel and Dieter Bohn welcome Dan Seifert, Casey Newton, and Julia Alexander to talk about gadget news, Facebook's oversight board, and updates in the streaming world.
81 min
67
How pandemic disinformation is affecting social...
Alex Stamos, former chief security officer of Facebook and director of the Stanford Internet Observatory talks to Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and Silicon Valley editor Casey Newton
65 min
68
New releases: Surface Go 2, Macbook Pro 13-inch...
On Paul Miller's final show, the crew discuss the new 13-inch Macbook Pro, the Microsoft Surface Book 3 and how gameplay looks on the next Xbox.
77 min
69
Sonos CEO discusses the Arc and customer backla...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel welcomes back Sonos CEO Patrick Spence to discuss the products they announced this week, including a Dolby Atmos soundbar.
52 min
70
The 3 new CEOs of Verizon, AT&T, and T-Mobile, ...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss quarterly earnings from tech companies, the 3 new CEOs of the biggest mobile carriers in America, and how Trolls World Tour may be changing the movie theater business.
81 min
71
How Amazon's dominance is more visible during a...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews co-director of the Institute for Local Self Reliance Stacy Mitchell about her critique of Amazon's power in America's marketplace.
56 min
72
Reviews of Apple's Magic Keyboard, iPhone SE, a...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss The Verge's reviews of Apple's new iPhone SE, the Magic Keyboard for iPad Pro, and Logitech's Combo Touch.
76 min
73
Interface Live: Casey Newton and Sarah Frier ta...
Silicon valley editor Casey Newton talks with Bloomberg reporter Sarah Frier about her new book No Filter
49 min
74
Apple's new iPhone SE, OnePlus 8 Pro review, an...
Nilay, Paul, and Dieter discuss Apple's announcement of a new iPhone SE, the review of OnePlus' 8 Pro, and Verizon buying videoconferencing company BlueJeans.
76 min
75
Apple and Google are building a coronavirus tra...
Nilay Patel talks with Adi Robertson, Casey Newton, and Nicole Wetsman about Apple and Google's plan to
32 min
76
Quibi's launch week, Asus laptop reviews, and S...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul are joined by Monica Chin to discuss new laptops out this season. Julia Alexander stops by to talk about Quibi's launch week.
65 min
77
Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on AI for rural America
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott about his new book "Reprogramming the American Dream: From Rural America to Silicon Valley―Making AI Serve Us All".
64 min
78
Zoom's privacy concerns, Apple buys Dark Sky, a...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul talk to Tom Warren about Zoom's privacy and security concerns. The crew also looks back at the history of Sprint after it finally merged with T-Mobile. Paul's weekly segment "If I were a rich man" updates the keyboard-in-the-front club. The show ends with some chat about Apple buying the weather app Dark Sky and allowing in-app rentals on their mobile devices.
78 min
79
Amy Webb is a quantitative futurist
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to founder and CEO of The Future Today Institute Amy Webb.
50 min
80
Reviews for the Macbook Air and iPad Pro (2020)...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss how the coronavirus is affecting tech companies of all sizes, the reviews Macbook Air and iPad Pro, the Huawei P40 Pro, and a Dell app that controls your iPhone.
75 min
81
Impossible Foods CEO Patrick Brown on a new kin...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to Impossible Foods CEO Patrick Brown about Impossible's mission to replace animal-derived meat worldwide and what that would mean for our climate and culture.
47 min
82
Apple announces new iPad Pro and Macbook Air, S...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss the new iPad Pro and Macbook Air that Apple announced this week, the confusion around Google's coronavirus testing website, and the specs revealed for the PS5.
76 min
83
FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel on broadba...
Nilay Patel and Makena Kelly talk American broadband policy with FCC Commissioner Jessica Rosenworcel
52 min
84
Galaxy S20 review and leaks of iOS 14, watchOS ...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss the review for the Samsung Galaxy S20, the latest Apple leaks, a Pixel 4a leak, and some Android TV news.
84 min
85
COVID-19: How it spreads, how to test for it, a...
Tracking its spread of the coronavirus, the response of authorities, how to test for it, and the economic impacts with Verge health reporter Nicole Wetsman and Verge deputy editor Liz Lopatto
54 min
86
Mac Pro and Pro Display review, TCL's folding p...
Nilay, Dieter, and Paul discuss The Verge's Mac Pro review, Apple reportedly releasing an iPad with a keyboard and trackpad, and a bunch of new phone concepts.
89 min
87
Political advertising on social media, privacy ...
Verge policy reporter Makena Kelly chats with Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel about important points in US tech policy recently as we go into the 2020 presidential election.
43 min
88
Galaxy S20 Ultra's camera issues and Bob Iger s...
Nilay, Paul, and Dieter discuss the Samsung Galaxy S20 camera, Bob Iger stepping down as Disney CEO, and gadget news you may have missed.
82 min
89
Argo’s CEO explains why its fleet of self-drivi...
49 min
90
Galaxy Z Flip review, CBS streaming service rev...
Nilay, Paul, and Dieter discuss the Samsung Galaxy Z Flip's Ultra Thin 'Glass', CBS' plan to improve their streaming app, and what we've seen from Android 11 so far
83 min
91
Chief Product Officer of Adobe Scott Belsky ret...
Chief Product Officer of Adobe Scott Belsky chats with Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and reporter Dami Lee
52 min
92
Motorola Razr review, Samsung's Galaxy S20 even...
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller discuss whether Motorola's new Razr is worth the price, the biggest announcement's from Samsung's Unpacked event, and how T-Mobile and Sprint won a lawsuit to be able to merge.
88 min
93
New Jersey’s former attorney general on Ring ca...
Former New Jersey attorney general Anne Milgram stopped by the studio to talk with Verge editor in chief Nilay Patel and me, senior reporter Colin Lecher.
54 min
94
Iowa caucus app issues, Panos Panay takes over ...
Nilay Patel, Dieter, Bohn, and Paul Miller discuss the tech problems with Iowa's caucus, whether or not the US should buy Nokia, Microsoft’s Windows future tied to hardware, Google's Q4 earnings, and rumors about a new Apple TV.
65 min
95
How 5G and edge computing fit into the future o...
Dr. Venkata (Murthy) Renduchintala, the chief engineering officer and group president of the Technology, Systems Architecture and Client Group at Intel joined Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel and news editor Chaim Gartenberg to discuss the present and future of Intel.
43 min
96
iPad turns 10, Apple's first quarter earnings, ...
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, and Paul Miller discuss the iPad's place ten years in, Apple's first quarter results for fiscal year 2020, and the changes with Google's Search design
87 min
97
Neil Young says the Macbook Pro has “Fisher-Pri...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel chats with musician Neil Young and tech executive Phil Baker about their new book To Feel the Music: A Songwriter's Mission To Save High Quality Audio 
42 min
98
Apple's encryption controversy, Bezos's hacked ...
Nilay Patel, Dieter Bohn, Paul Miller, and Russell Brandom discuss Apple's encryption controversy, Bezos's hacked phone, and Sonos stopping old product updates
81 min
99
Rep. David Cicilline on regulating big tech mon...
Rep. David Cicilline (D-RI) speaks to The Verge's Nilay Patel and Adi Robertson about leading an investigation into how big tech platforms like Google, Amazon, and Apple are affecting competition for other tech companies.
27 min
100
August's Yves Behar and Jason Johnson unlock th...
Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel interviews Yves Behar and Jason Jason, co-founders of the smartlock company August
31 min