Marisa Renee Lee is the author of Grief is Love: Living with Loss, a book that guides readers through the pain of loss and offers a unique perspective on what healing truly means. A former appointee in the Obama White House, Marisa has served in various leadership roles, including Deputy Director of Private Sector Engagement and Senior Advisor on the Domestic Policy Council.

I'm a believer in ideas. I want more ideas, more insights, and more wisdom in the world. That's why my book philosophy is to buy as many of the ones that spark my intrigue as possible.

Why are so many mothers screaming? Jessica Grose is no stranger to the struggles of American motherhood. Mothers today are expected to be perfect across all areas of life: the sole childcare providers to their kids, devoted wives and housekeepers, goddesses of the domestic realm, and of course, completely ambitious and driven employees.

Women have fought for equality in the workplace for a long time. From equal rights to equal pay, equality in the public sphere is a vocal conversation.

Becoming a mother—even thinking about becoming one—involves complex feelings and emotions. But the “Bliss Myth” idea says that we should feel one note about becoming a parent, and that note is happiness and joy.

Lily Nichols is a Registered Dietician and Nutritionist, a Certified Diabetes Educator, and the author of two best-selling books on pregnancy nutrition. Her first bestseller, Real Food for Gestational Diabetes, has helped tens of thousands of women manage the condition, and went on to influence nutrition policies internationally. Lily’s next book, Real Food for Pregnancy, became #1 in the Pregnancy and Childbirth category on Amazon.

<p>#197 — Never drink coffee! Don’t have sushi! And cats are dangerous!</p> <p>Getting pregnant means entering into a world of advice and fear about all the things that could potentially go wrong.</p> <p>But what does the data say? Are these “pregnancy rules” based on truth or myth?</p> <p>When economist Emily Oster got pregnant, she also got curious about the advice she was getting. Some recommendations were based on her age alone, and sometimes she found it difficult to get any answers at all. So, she started digging into the data.</p> <p>Eventually, Emily’s research became&nbsp;<a href="https://www.amazon.com/gp/product/B00AEBEQUK/ref=dbs_a_def_rwt_hsch_vapi_taft_p1_i0"><em>Expecting Better: Why Conventional Pregnancy Wisdom is Wrong—and What You Really Need to Know</em></a><em>,</em> a book about how to make your own decisions, the things that matter most when it comes to pregnancy, and why it’s not so easy as just making blanket rules for everyone.</p> <p>Emily Oster is a highly-respected economist and professor at Brown University. Her research interests range from development and health economics to research design and experimental methodology. Emily’s work has appeared in the&nbsp;<em>Wall Street Journal</em>, the bestseller&nbsp;<em>SuperFreakonomics</em>, and FiveThirtyEight, and more.</p> <p>This interview originally aired in October 2019.</p> <p>FULL SHOW NOTES: <a href="https://startupparent.com/080" target="_blank">https://startupparent.com/080</a></p> <p>STARTUP PARENT NEWSLETTER: <a href="https://startupparent.com/newsletter">https://startupparent.com/newsletter</a></p> <p>THE WISE WOMEN'S COUNCIL: <a href="https://startupparent.com/wwc">https://startupparent.com/wwc</a></p> <p>DAD'S GROUP: <a href="https://mailchi.mp/startupparent.com/dads">https://startupparent.com/dads</a></p>

<p>#196 — What do you really know about your menstrual cycle—and where did that information come from?</p> <p>Young girls and women are often taught about menstrual cycles in relationship to two things: periods and pregnancy.</p> <p>That is, don't get pregnant! And also, periods are gross.&nbsp;</p> <p>This is such limited and almost useless information that doesn't support overall health and wellbeing. Plus, pills are often prescribed as a blanket solution to fix irregular cycles, alter heavy periods, or manage symptoms.&nbsp;</p> <p>Then, many women are flummoxed when they come off the pill after years or decades of use to find the old problems return immediately. The symptoms are only hidden by the regulating power of the pill, not resolved.</p> <p>In this episode, we look back at our conversation from Episode #108 with Lisa Hendrickson-Jack where we talk about fertility, menstruation, and the vital signs of our bodies.</p> <p>Lisa is the author of The Fifth Vital Sign: Master Your Cycles &amp; Optimize Your Fertility. She is a certified fertility awareness educator and a holistic reproductive health practitioner. She teaches women how to chart their menstrual cycles for natural birth control, for conception and for monitoring your overall health. Her book, The Fifth Vital Sign is all about why your cycle is one of your vital signs in your body if you are a woman and how it can play a powerful tool in diagnosing and healing our bodies.</p> <p>In this episode we talk about:&nbsp;</p> <ul> <li>Optimizing your fertility as the gateway to healing your body.</li> <li>Being a medical advocate for yourself: why it’s extremely difficult and also crucial to your long-term well-being.&nbsp;</li> <li>The idea that in any examining room there are two experts: the doctor, who is the expert in a field of medicine, and the patient, who is the expert in their body and their experience.&nbsp;</li> <li>How a family history of painful periods, fibroids, and hysterectomies led her to seek out cycle charting from an early age.</li> <li>Lisa debunks the myth that regular ovulation is only important when you want children, because we need to recognize that the menstrual cycle is part of our entire biology and physiology. She presents an evidence-based approach to fertility awareness and menstrual cycle optimization.&nbsp;</li> <li>How the body is seen as low—base, even!—and unpredictable. That means that men and women have been culturally conditioned not to experience life through our bodies. This becomes a bigger problem for birthing and postpartum women, who can experience the trauma of birth itself and then can compound that damage by feeling like they can’t or shouldn’t listen to their bodies reaction to trauma in the wake of birth.&nbsp;</li> </ul> <p>By only revisiting our cycles when we decide to try to conceive, we miss out on the opportunity to come into deep understanding with our bodies and to heal ourselves rather than mask symptoms. Today, we get to talk to Lisa Hendrickson-Jack about how in taking the time to chart, learn about and understand our cycles, we can not only optimize our fertility but gain crucial information about our bodies. Join us as we talk about the menstrual cycle, fertility, and the opportunities we all have to learn more about our bodies simply by paying closer attention to them.</p> <p>FULL SHOW NOTES: <a href="https://startupparent.com/108" target="_blank">https://startupparent.com/108</a></p> <p>STARTUP PARENT NEWSLETTER: <a href="https://startupparent.com/newsletter">https://startupparent.com/newsletter</a></p> <p>THE WISE WOMEN'S COUNCIL: <a href="https://startupparent.com/wwc">https://startupparent.com/wwc</a></p>

<p>#195 — The Wise Women's Council is back this October 2022 and now accepting enrollments for our Fall Cohort. This is our first-ever winter cohort! Applications close October 12, 2022 this year. Apply at <a href="//startupparent.com/wwc">startupparent.com/wwc</a>.</p> <p>Over the past five years, we’ve built a <a href="https://startupparent.com/wise-womens-council-community-mastermind" target="_blank">leadership incubator</a> for women navigating both business and parenting. What started as a small group circle has blossomed into an incredible program for mid-career and executive women navigating the next moves in their lives.</p> <p>“This is a landing place of brilliance amongst the chaotic backdrop of parenting and working,” alumni Alicia Jabbar described it. “I loved everything about the program. SKP is brilliant at holding space, providing sparks for connections, and letting go of any attachment of a plan in service of meeting the group where they are and what they are needing.”</p> <p>“I was surprised at how deeply I got to know these women over the course of the year,” another alumni, Lee Price said. “ I found companionship, friendship, business support, cheerleaders, and new ideas. I tell so many people now that they should <a href="https://startupparent.com/wise-womens-council-community-mastermind/">join WWC!</a>”</p> <p>When I built Startup Parent, I began by interviewing hundreds of women for the podcast, and then later for our leadership programs. What I heard from hundreds of women was how unbelievably lonely it was to be at the intersection of leadership and entrepreneurship AND parenting. As a mom, it felt isolating to be juggling both work and career, and finding time to meet other parents in a similar space felt next to impossible.</p> <p>So we set out to help these tired moms make friends.</p> <p>IN THIS EPISODE:</p> <ul> <li>How the program is structured, and our rhythm of learning.</li> <li>What we do differently than other leadership incubators.</li> <li>Why people keep coming back year over year.</li> <li>A sneak peek at some of the guest teachers we invite.</li> <li>What our alumni are saying about the program.</li> </ul> <p>If you're looking to join a supportive, expansive, brilliant group of women founders, leaders &amp; business creatives, then check out The Wise Women's Council.</p> <p>We only open a few weeks each year for new members to join.⁠</p>

<p>#186 — The Wise Women's Council is back and accepting enrollments for our Class of 2022. We only open once per year for enrollment, so whether you've been a longtime listener or a brand-new listener, check out our leadership incubator and community for executive, entrepreneurial moms navigating both life and business at the same time.&nbsp;</p> <p>Applications close March 1, 2022 this year. Apply at startupparent.com/wwc</p> <p>Last year's Wise Women's Council was amazing. Full stop. Here's what some of our alumni have said:</p> <p>"It made me feel seen and less alone."⁠</p> <p>"What I didn't expect was just how expansive WWC was for me. The people I met, what I learned both about myself and the world – it truly expanded what I thought was possible about working parenthood."⁠</p> <p>"WWC brings these incredible women together, and you form relationships over 9 months that approximate the closeness of many-years-long friendships. You learn things about yourself that you didn't know before. You unlock ways of understanding the world outside of where you were before"⁠</p> <p>"There is no way to describe what it feels like to be validated. So much of being a women and more so a mom makes one feel invisible. In this space I felt seen and heard by really smart, funny, and fearless parents."⁠<br> ⁠<br> 👆 THIS is what the alumni from WWC have said about what The Wise Women's Council is like. I didn't edit their words or tell them what to say.<br> ⁠<br> If you're looking to join a supportive, expansive, brilliant group of women founders, leaders &amp; business creatives, then check out The Wise Women's Council. We only open once a year for applications to join.⁠</p> <p>APPLY HERE → www.startupparent.com/wwc⁠</p> <p>📌 Our application deadline is March 1, 2022.&nbsp;</p> <p>The program runs March 28 - Nov 3, 2022.</p>

<p>#185 — <a href="https://www.linkedin.com/in/vanessavanedwards/"><u>Vanessa Van Edwards</u></a> learned right away that being an expert in behavioral science did not translate into innate parenting know-how.</p> <p>An author, speaker, and lead investigator with <a href="https://www.scienceofpeople.com/about/"><u>Science of People</u></a>, Vanessa first appeared on <a href="https://startupparent.com/the-science-of-personality-096-with-vanessa-van-edwards/"><u>Episode #96</u></a> of Startup Parent. She returned for <a href="https://startupparent.com/the-first-weeks-of-parenting-what-nobody-tells-you-episode-104-with-vanessa-van-edwards/"><u>Episode #104</u></a>, in which she busted some myths about the first weeks of parenthood.</p> <p>Now, she’s opening up about the first year, explaining that while some phases do indeed “go by so fast,” others can feel like a slog, but telling parents that it goes by so fast is not, well, helpful. We dig into the nitty-gritty of the first year of parenting, what surprised us, what we wish we’d known, and the milestones most parenting books miss.</p> <p>We also talk about miscarriage, and Vanessa also speaks honestly about the experience of having a miscarriage at eight weeks, and the physicality of it—many people talk about the emotional experience, but she wasn’t prepared for how long it would take, and what her body would go through in the experience.</p> <p>Tune in to this episode to hear Vanessa’s take on what the first year of parenting was like for her, how it affected her perspective on work and friendships, and also how the pandemic (and parenting) might also be an opportunity for a fresh start.</p> <p>Episodes mentioned:&nbsp;</p> <ul> <li><a href="https://startupparent.com/the-science-of-personality-096-with-vanessa-van-edwards/"><u>Episode #96</u></a><u>,</u> our first interview with Vanessa on Startup Parent.&nbsp;</li> <li><a href="https://startupparent.com/the-first-weeks-of-parenting-what-nobody-tells-you-episode-104-with-vanessa-van-edwards/"><u>Episode #104</u></a>, in which she busted some myths about the first weeks of parenthood.</li> </ul>

<p>#184 — Growing up, James Breakwell never had to think about what jobs he wasn’t allowed to pursue. That changed when he had kids.</p> <p>As the father of four girls — one of whom recently said she wants to be a construction worker, and another who asked if she could be the Pope — he’s had to put himself in the shoes of the females surrounding him at home.</p> <p>As an author and internet personality behind the popular Twitter account <a href="https://twitter.com/XplodingUnicorn?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Eauthor"><u>@XplodingUnicorn</u></a>, James is best known for his viral tweets depicting hilarious snippets of conversations with his daughters.</p> <p>In this interview with our first startup dad, he gets real about how he navigates building a public persona based on his family life — including how much to share and what to withhold.</p> <p>Full show notes at <a href="//startupparent.com/184">startupparent.com/184</a></p>

<p>#183 — Creative dynamo Amber Anderson is the founder of Tote &amp; Pears, a branding and marketing agency with a female focus. For her, becoming an entrepreneur was about more than the business. It was about creating possibilities for her family, establishing a set of core values for her family, and aligning her business values and family needs holistically.</p> <p>We first interviewed Amber on Episode #029 all about the birth of her son and her business. We invite her back to talk about what marketing to women looks like, how brands and agencies can better understand their target audience, and how to build a business that works for you and your family.</p> <p>Tune in to this episode to hear returning guest Amber describe how she aligns family values with work values, the rebranding of her marketing to become female-focused, and why she is committed to keeping work and home life intertwined (while keeping her work weeks around 40-50 hours).</p> <p>Full show notes at <a href="https://startupparent.com/183">startupparent.com/183</a></p>

<p>#182 — How badly is this year, this pandemic, messing up our kids and us, as parents? Dr Courtney Bolton has a PhD in counseling clinical and school psychology, and she is a parenting coach focused on evidence-based strategies for the development of kids. She's a mom of four and she helps parents make contextual, intentional parenting decisions that work for them and their families. I asked her to join me to talk about parenting, stress, and the pandemic.</p> <p>In this episode, we talk about:&nbsp;</p> <ul> <li>How to help little ones manage their emotional and mental understanding of all that's changed — and specific tools for how to talk to our kids across age groups.</li> <li>How to help parents deal with all of the stress and life changes that are happening.</li> <li>Stress strategies for dealing with the coming months and not calling it "new normal" but really naming what it is and what's happening.</li> <li>The grief and loss that's happening in so many different ways in our homes, including the loss of income, work, career, meaning, purpose, and time.</li> <li>How to talk to kids about loss and grief.</li> <li>The 6 P's framework she has for recentering and adjusting as a parent.</li> </ul> <p>Also, because we're in a pandemic, you'll hear our kids in the background, and we have to move offices to make this interview work. This was recorded at the end of last summer, but like the music, better late than never.</p> <p>Browse all episodes at <a href="http://startupparent.com/podcast" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">startupparent.com/podcast</a> or check out the complete show notes at <a href="//startupparent.com/182">startupparent.com/182</a></p>

<p>#181 - Welcome back to co-host Cary Fortin! We're back for another friendship episode, where Sarah and Cary talk about business design, parenting stress, and dealing with the pandemic. In this episode, we take you behind the scenes of The Wise Women's Council and the Class of 2021, and the ways that we think about community design and creating strong containers for personal growth.</p> <p>If you haven't heard the story of how the Wise Women's Council started, listen in as Sarah describes what it took to create a program while pregnant with her second kiddo (and with a toddler at home). Business as usual wouldn't work, so she thought differently about what a mastermind community might look like, and how to bring a network of teachers in so that she could run a program while also taking leave in the middle of her own program.</p> <p>In this episode:</p> <ul> <li>How too much ego can get you into trouble if you design a business where you (and your personality) has to be at the center of the business.</li> <li>How we are scaling the Wise Women's Council and what it looks like to grow a program and a community while maintaining intimacy.</li> <li>The container and the structure set-up, and the work it takes, to create truly intimate and honest conversational space.</li> <li>What many business owners miss when trying to create strong communities.</li> <li>Some of the lessons learned from running masterminds, retreats, and events for over a decade, and how to create a great program and experience.</li> </ul> <p>This episode is a casual conversation with lots of sideways chatter and banter between long-term friends Cary and Sarah. We also have episodes with guest experts and speakers, but this one includes everything that friends talk about (including adult language), so listen with headphones if you have kids around.</p> <p>Browse all episodes at <a href="http://startupparent.com/podcast" rel="ugc noopener noreferrer" target="_blank">startupparent.com/podcast</a> or check out the complete show notes at <a href="//startupparent.com/181">startupparent.com/181</a></p>

<p>#180 — We are not the same as before. What we went through last year, and what we are still going through, is beyond comprehension and imagination. Many are still trying to survive, out of work, and picking up the pieces from last year. Many are grieving deeply and some of us don't have a clear roadmap for grief or recovery.</p> <p>It's been so long since I've been able to sit down and put together a real podcast that I almost feel like I've forgotten how to do it. I invited Cary Fortin to join me as we talk about what the last year has been like and how we're finding our footing again. Cary was my guest co-host from the original Friendship Series (Episodes 81 through 86 for longtime listeners), is a dear friend, and has been my go-to pandemic buddy as we talk (and rage, and vent) about the events of the last year. She joined today to help me talk through some of what we've been through in the last year.</p> <p>Browse all episodes at <a href="http://startupparent.com/podcast">startupparent.com/podcast</a> or check out the complete show notes at <a href="http://startupparent.com/180">startupparent.com/180</a></p>

<p>#179 —&nbsp;When 2020 kicked off, we had big plans. One of those plans was growing Startup Pregnant and shifting our focus—and name—to cover what we were already focused on: parents. Today, I'm excited to tell you about the new name, and introduce you to Startup Parent. Here's the backstory of why we changed our name, what it took, and a sneak peek into what we're building next. Also, there are a lot of background noises in this episode, because children and vacuums aren't quiet. At all. But, like the name change, we managed to figure out how to make it work despite all the hurdles. This episode was recorded in October 2020, again in December 2020, and edited and published in March 2021.</p>

<p>#178 — We are two weeks away from kicking off our fourth class of The Wise Women's Council, and we have an extraordinary group of people joining us for the year ahead. WWC is our year-long leadership incubator for women business leaders, entrepreneurs, and innovators who are also navigating pregnancy, parenthood, and motherhood.&nbsp;We go deep together for the better part of a year and support women at their growth edge who want to continue to level up in their life and career.</p> <p>In this episode, I'm diving into the nuances of the program: how I've designed it, what parts of past mastermind programs I've used, why I changed the structure to better fit the lives of working parents, and the research behind why I've made the program the way it is. Over the last few weeks I have been interviewing, talking, laughing, and even crying with so many of you during our interviews and gathering calls, and I'm looking forward to spending the year ahead with so many of you. If you've been thinking about applying to join us, if you've never heard of the program before, or you're watching along, listening and learning (I see you! I do this, too), this episode is about what the program is for, how I've designed it, and the program goals we have for the women &amp; womxn who join us.</p> <p>Apply to join us in the year ahead: www.startupparent.com/wwc</p>

<p>#177 — Dr Shani Cooper is a Naval Veteran, Licensed Acupuncturist and Doctor of Acupuncture and Chinese Medicine, who began studying the human body in 2010. She is also the parent to Sage, an eight-month old who arrived in the world bright and early, two months before his estimated arrival window!</p> <p>Shani joined us last year in The Wise Women's Council when she was pregnant with her little one, who you will hear and enjoy in the background of this recording. I asked her if she'd join us to talk about what WWC was like for her navigating pregnancy, childbirth, and growing in-person business practice, and a pandemic.</p> <p>For all of you curious or thinking about the Wise Women's Council i'm doing a short series here on the podcast with folks who went through the program last year (look for Episodes #176 through #181). If you're interested in joining us in 2021, head to <a href="http://startupparent.com/wwc">startupparent.com/wwc</a> to find out more about the program and submit an application to join us. Leadership doesn't have to look like what we see around us. Leadership can be messy and it's our job, as women, as people carving out a new future, to chart a new path of leadership that might not look like the masculine models we've been steeped in so far.</p> <p>Show notes: <a href="http://startupparent.com/177">startupparent.com/177</a></p> <p>The Wise Women's Council: <a href="http://startupparent.com/wwc">startupparent.com/wwc</a></p>

<p>#176 — What's it like to run a team of 40 people, in a pandemic, with a 1-year-old, and get pregnant with your second kid? Jess Kamada, VP of Client Services at Bamboo, a top growth marketing firm based in Seattle, joined me for a special episode to talk about how she managed the pandemic and the last year.</p> <p>Jess joined us in the 2020 Wise Women's Council, and I asked her if she would be open to sharing her story and experience on the podcast, and share some insights into what it's like to be in the Wise Women's Council, why she chose the Group Coaching level, and what she got out of the experience.</p> <p>If you're thinking about applying to join us in the Class of 2021, submit your application at <a href="http://startupparent.com/wwc">startupparent.com/wwc</a>. Applications are open until February 15, 2021, and we start together in March.</p>

<p>#175 — Welcome to 2021, a year that clearly isn't going to erase all of last year's frustrations, angers, or woes. This episode is an overview of some of the highlights from Startup Parent over 2020. Seven months without childcare is not easy, that's for sure, and while we didn't hit many of our goals, we had surprising revenue outcomes and we managed to hire more people than I'd planned on! In this episode, I talk about the Wise Women's Council, about our growth as a team, key metrics and revenue goals from the last year, and the painful work of doing half as much as you hope to do.&nbsp;</p>

<p>#174 — The other day, I was reading an article on Time Magazine that I couldn't stop reading. Dr. Kyl Myers, an author, had written a long-form piece about gender, sex and parenting. Dr. Kyl Myers holds a PhD in sociology and studies and speaks about gender. They are an award-winning educator and a globally recognized advocate for gender creative parenting. Since 2016, Kyl has been speaking and writing about gender creative parenting and using their own parenting story to help the world learn about and embrace a new type of childhood. Kyl Myers goes by "she" and "her" pronouns, as well as "they" and "them." Dr. Myers is the author of <em>Raising Them: Our Adventure In Gender Creative Parenting.</em></p> <p>If you'd like to hear a fascinating conversation about parenting, gender, and what we can do as parents to help reduce gender violence, oppression against women and men, and create a more playful world, come join us on this episode of the podcast.</p> <p>Full show notes, references, quotes, and sponsor details are available at <a href="//startupparent.com/174">startupparent.com/174</a></p>

<p>#173 — Why is default motherhood so white in our cultural storytelling? In America, the word "mother" is nearly always describing <em>white</em> motherhood. That's what Nefertiti Austin, a single African American woman, discovered when she decided she wanted to adopt a Black baby boy out of the foster care system. Eager to finally join the motherhood ranks, Nefertiti was shocked when people started asking her why she wanted to adopt a "crack baby" or told her that she would never be able to raise a Black son on her own.</p> <p>She realized that American society saw motherhood through a white lens, and that there would be no easy understanding or acceptance of the kind of family she hoped to build. She is the author of Motherhood So White: A Memoir of Race, Gender, and Parenting in America, which went on to become an Amazon bestseller.</p> <p>Nefertiti Austin joins us on the show to talk about motherhood, race, adoption, and the white lens that is applied to motherhood stories in America, and more broadly, in Western cultures today. We talk about being a single mom and her journey from being a law student to becoming a fiction writer to today, her career in nonfiction writing and publishing. We dig into the mistruths around what's told about being a single mom, adoption, and blackness.</p> <p>For full show notes, episode sponsors, and quotes, go to <a href="http://www.startupparent.com/173">www.startupparent.com/173</a></p>

<p>#172 — There's a coaching tool that I really love, that is an important concept to know and practice throughout your work and life. It's called "areas of control," and I'll share how to think about it in your life, relationships, and with regards to real-world events. From there, I want to give you one of my favorite practices—something to look forward to.</p> <p>Full show notes will be available at <a href="//startupparent.com/172">startupparent.com/172</a>&nbsp;</p>

<p>#171 — &nbsp;Lions + Tigers Panel Replay. School is back in session, and parents everywhere are fatigued, overwhelmed, and still in the lurch. Workplaces are less and less forgiving, and yet the problems created by the pandemic are still here. What's a working parent to do?</p> <p>Last week, Lions + Tigers, spearheaded by Brea Starmer, gathered a panel to talk about specific steps parents can take to strategically plan ahead for the last quarter of the year, what to do to advocate for yourself as a working parent, the option parents have with schools and how you can think about creating a 'micro school' to get childcare set up in areas where remote schools aren't feasible, and how to navigate and set up your workplaces to be more compatible with the working parents in your organization.</p> <p>I was lucky enough to be able to host this panel, so I got to interview some talented experts all about all of these questions. Joining me on the panel were Shauna Causey of Weekdays, Blessing Adesiyan of Mother Honestly, and Brea Starmer of Lions + Tigers.</p> <p>Full show notes at <a href="//www.startupparent.com/171">www.startupparent.com/171</a>&nbsp;</p>