In today's show Scott and David attempt to tally the cost of "access journalism" and make a case for what should be surfing's biggest news story, they then attempt to dissect the economics surrounding pro surfers relationships with shapers, celebrate the memorial of Bob Simmons, and David details his recent wave pool soiree in the desert. Enjoy!

In today's show David and Scott share reflections on the most poignant surf documentary in recent time, assess the 2024 CT schedule and make predictions on how much longer the WSL can tank their product and profits while retaining elite level surfers, and they assess the real cost Stab Mag pays for their privileged access to WSL spokespersons. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

In today's episode Scott and David dissect Finals Day, the format, the title's clinched and lost, the unexpected come ups, the painstaking let downs, the inspirational comeback, the uninspired relinquishing of a crown, and the implications for 2024 and beyond. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

In today's show David and Scott announce their first ever Spit surf trip! You're invited! Scott returns from Hood River with yet another foil epiphany, David reviews the final 5 warm ups at Lowers, Kelly weighs-in on the updated judging criteria for Finals Day, and the boys make their final predictions for swell, for winners, for potential wrenches, and for the greatest opportunity any female surfer has ever had laid at their feet. Enjoy!

In today's show David and Scott follow Eckert's lead and find redemption through contrition, feel zero nostalgia for "surf brands" being sold alongside Kirkland, assess Filipe's greatest liability at Finals Day (along with the forecast), and identify the importance and perils with classifying any ol' prejudice as "racism". Plus Dukes and Kooks. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David recap Hurricane Hilary, identify the new WSL rule that bumped Gabe Medina from 4th to 6th, question why the org hasn't mentioned a single word about their World Number 3's broken back, receive guidance from an elder on how to respond after burning someone, and identify a easy and direct method to help their brethren on Maui. Plus Dukes and Kooks. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David celebrate the rescue and recovery of the surfers and crew lost at sea in Indonesia, survey the toll and response efforts on Maui, assess the effects of the corporatization of surf forecast sites, and marvel at the multi-disciplinary domination of JJF. Enjoy!

In today's episode Scott and David identify why the US Open captured their attention (spoiler: it wasn't the waves), recap the greatest heat of the year (which took place during, not at, the US Open), celebrate Kelly's inaugural trip to Skeleton Bay (in preparation for Tahiti!), bid Conner Coffin adieu and welcome Kolohe's best chapter yet. Enjoy!

In today's episode David and Scott unpack the cultural contributions and contaminants provided by the US Open, discover a body in a barrel at Malibu, check the forecast for Teahupo'o, celebrate the potential for a rebirth in Fiji, and solve for why the world has so many great surfboard shapers and so few of them are represented on the elite level. Enjoy!

In today's show David and the "Ocean Oracle" wax poetic on foiling philosophy, make amends to Lakey Peterson, Scott saves $100k by finding the greatest wave ever sold, Twiggy suffers the cruel blow of ageism, Hawaiian surfer girls get a glow up on Amazon Prime, and the boys get one step closer to discovering the reason ELO was vanquished by the WSL post-haste. Enjoy!

Recorded on-site at the Watermen's Retreat in Waves, North Carolina, on the fourth day of an intensive foiling camp, Scott and David discuss the travails of learning an new athletic endeavor in late-middle age, the exhaustion of wiping out, falling face-to-fuselage, the glory of first flight, and recap the successes and backlash of the JBay Open. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David mourn the loss of one of surfing's greats, survey their conflicted feelings about the new Miki Dora podcast, question the virtues of Twin fins in good surf, and David confronts a spiritual experience after watching the upcoming Bryce Young biopic. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

After a long holiday weekend, Scott and David celebrate their independence and search for answers and light in the silent vacuum left by Erik Logan's departure from the WSL on Thursday. They speculate on lawsuits, a pattern of past rumors, replacements, perhaps identify the true source of the org's misguidance, and reveal the expected Wizard of Oz who has quietly been calling the shots all along. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David reflect on the amazing archaeological Rick Griffin find, give thanks for the Aikau family, set intention to stave off aging through diet, survey the cultural contributions that wave pools are making to surf culture, and rejoice in the virtues of riding old boards. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

Scott is back to regale us with tales from the Telos! Then he and David catch up on Nathan Florence's slab tour, Dylan Longbottom's near death wipeout, the Skeleton Bay Shootout, why it's time to clarify board building titles, and the most stylish surfer who opts to still ride three fins. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David are joined by board builder Michael Arenal. He won the Best in Show Board Build off at The Boardroom. He's building beautiful boards for Hobie and for his own label. He's been selected by Bing Copeland to compete in the Icons of Foam Shape-off honoring Bing in October at the Boardroom. He's got a lot going on! Enjoy!

In today's episode Scott brings in Justin Ternes of Dark Arts Surfboards to discuss rethinking surfboard construction and his path to collaboration with some of the most prominent shortboard shapers. Dark Arts offers the light, strong, performance surfboards, and as a result the boards are being ridden to event wins and even World Titles. Enjoy!

In today's show David and Scott discuss the controversy and fall out of the Surf Ranch Pro, whether the failures are related to incompetence or corruption, the three world champs who are publicly speaking out, the winners, the losers, the death threats, and what comes next for the WSL and/or an adjacent Tour that prizes high-quality surf and surfing. Enjoy!

In today's show David dissect the virtues of EPS vs PU while Scott professes his love of XTR (and turtles) and then the boys question the dangers inherent in our 11 time world champ's universal adulation and privileged access, and celebrate the life of one surfer who was even more powerful surfer than our sandal magnate. Plus Dukes and Kooks. Enjoy!

In today's show, Scott regales us with tales of getting barreled south of the border, explains why he buys a new board every week but never travels with one, he then outlines some of the greatest father-n-son shaping duos of all time, while David waxes nostalgic about a 1/4 century worth of (non)Fish evolution, and they both celebrate Nathan Florence's heroic slab navigation south of Australia. Enjoy!

In today's show, Scott and David begin to realize they are in over their head with their foiling journey, they dissect episode one of SITD and lament the limitations of closeouts, they welcome Nathan Florence, J.O.B., and Koa Rothman into the podcast game, celebrate 60 years of Surfing World, and marvel at the implications of machine learning for Surfline's cams. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David do a deeper dive into AI and are stunned by how much the robots know about surfboard shaping, they celebrate Surfline's coverage of the Teahupo'o, wish well Tom Lowe after his near death wipeout, and lament the flash flood that sent vehicles on into the lagoon. Plus Dukes, Kooks, and much more. Enjoy!

In today's show David and Scott discuss Kelly Slater's "retirement" and the WSL's Kelly-caveat rule that nullifies it's significance, they tease apart the remaining field at Margaret and discover why John John continues to redefine the break, and then Scott searches for cultural significance amidst the cacophony of surf content white noise. Plus Dukes and Kooks! Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David investigate whether surfing qualifies as an addiction, celebrate the incoming massive swell at Margaret's, survey the WSL's "time management problem", refocus their attention on style, ask for more Rasta, and attempt to delineate the differences between a quad vs twin Fish. Enjoy!

In today's show Scott and David celebrate the 50th anniversary of the Bonzer, the 40th anniversary of Helen Lambert's (Ethan's mum) Bells win, the 60th anniversary of Bells, and discuss the horrid conditions, the reason why the judges suck but it's not their fault, why it doesn't matter that Kelly will be cut, and how Filipe needs to regress in order to meet the WSL's criteria. Enjoy!