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The PESO Model® Diagnostic: Inside the Liquid D...
In the second of the monthly PESO Model® Diagnostic series, Gini Dietrich diagnoses the operating system behind Liquid Death, the rare brand sitting at Stage 5 / Leadership on the PESO Maturity Ladder, where the operating system isn't supporting the product.
20 min
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The Six Stages of PESO Model® Maturity
The PESO Model® has six stages of maturity—and the data says 91% of communications teams are stuck in the bottom half of the ladder.
22 min
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AI Is Quietly Destroying Your Best Content
In this episode, Gini Dietrich walks through the telephone game effect—and how you can fix it.
15 min
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The New PESO Model® Graphic Is Here. So Are the...
In this episode, Gini discusses what changed in the PESO Model®, what the four outcomes (Authority, Credibility, Discovery, Growth) actually mean, how to read the graphic correctly, and what now requires a license.
19 min
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The PESO Model® Diagnostic: The Budweiser Super...
In the first episode of the new PESO Model® Diagnostic series, Gini Dietrich runs Budweiser's "Made of America" program through the PESO operating system lens and shows exactly where coordination ends and integration begins. 
17 min
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Visibility Engineering Is the New Playbook for ...
In this episode, Gini Dietrich explores visibility engineering, why disconnected media placements create noise instead of authority, and how to connect earned and owned media to build credibility that compounds.
17 min
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AI Visibility is Simply About Being More Credible
In this week’s Spin Sucks episode, Gini Dietrich explores why publishing more content is not enough to build authority in an AI-shaped market.
17 min
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Women Are on the Front Line of AI Disruption
In this episode, Gini Dietrich unpacks Alex Karp’s comments about AI reducing the power of highly educated, often female professionals, what that reveals about who is most vulnerable as AI scales, and why this is a power problem as much as a workforce one.
17 min
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Hustle Culture, AI, and the Cost of Shallow Thi...
On this week’s Spin Sucks podcast episode, Gini Dietrich explores how hustle culture trained us to confuse keeping up with actually understanding, why the performance of consumption is not the same thing as thinking, and what communicators, marketers, and leaders stand to lose when everything is optimized for speed.
13 min
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The PESO Model® Was Built for This Moment
12 min
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Measuring the PESO Model® Without Losing Your Mind
In this Spin Sucks episode, Gini Dietrich breaks measurement down for marketers who would rather alphabetize their spice drawer than open a dashboard.
15 min
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Why the PESO Model® Falls Apart Without Integra...
In this episode, Gini Dietrich shares what PESO Model integration really is: repeatable decisions, a stop list that prevents chaos, and a one-page integration map that keeps everything connected.
13 min
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How Shared and Paid Make the PESO Model® Operat...
In this episode of the Spin Sucks podcast, Gini Dietrich resets what shared and paid are actually for inside the PESO Model® operating system.
18 min
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The Visibility Engine: Owned and Earned Media
In this episode, Gini Dietrich unpacks the visibility engine: Owned and Earned media working together.
12 min
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The PESO Model Certification® is Now Built for ...
Gini Dietrich walks you through the 2026 PESO Model® Certification, rebuilt to help marketers and communicators run PESO as an operating system and engineer visibility, credibility, and trust across paid, earned, shared, and owned media—without needing a bigger team or a bigger budget.
17 min
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Corporate Communications and the Cost of Silence
In this episode, Gini Dietrich unpacks why companies default to silence, why that rationale fails, and what communicators should push for instead: decisions, documented protocols, manager scripts, and clear internal and external messaging anchored in duty of care and business continuity. 
18 min
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AI Comments Don’t Build Relationships
In this episode, Gini Dietrich shares the “trust math” behind why AI comments backfire, how they create reputation debt, and what to do instead.
11 min
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A PESO Model® Primer for Marketers and Communic...
Gini Dietrich explains how the PESO Model has evolved from a framework into a marketing operating system designed for today’s reality.
21 min
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Publicity Is Dead. PR Is Not.
In this episode, Gini Dietrich separates publicity from PR, unpacks why executives often treat PR as a replaceable distribution channel, and explains what modern PR actually does in 2026.
16 min
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The PESO Model® in 2026: Evolved, Operational, ...
In this episode, Gini Dietrich explains how the PESO Model has evolved from a framework into an operating system—one that helps senior marketers integrate AI, align teams and agencies, and measure what actually drives business outcomes.
22 min
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The Visibility Engineering Metrics That Predict...
In this final episode of the Visibility Engineering series, Gini Dietrich breaks down three simple metrics that tell you whether your work is driving real pre-pipeline demand.
11 min
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How to Use Proof-First Social to Engineer Visib...
Gini Dietrich shows you how to put your credibility into circulation—not by posting more, but by boosting only what your audience proves they value.
13 min
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Building Corroboration Loops to Power Your Vis...
In this episode, Gini Dietrich explores how to build corroboration loops—the external proof points that show up in trade outlets, creator newsletters, podcasts, and partner channels, and all lead back to your best content.
17 min
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AI Looks for Author Footprints First
In this episode of the Spin Sucks Podcast, Gini Dietrich introduces author footprints: a simple way to turn your internal subject-matter experts into visible, credible sources for both humans and AI.
14 min
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The Fastest Path to Engineering Your Brand’s Vi...
Gini Dietrich provides a no-fluff visibility engineering sprint to help you prepare for a January launch.
14 min