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Tales from the world's largest archive of music journalism: entertaining interviews with luminaries such as Neil Tennant, Billy Bragg, Pamela Des Barres, Gary Kemp, Vashti Bunyan, Midge Ure, Nick Hornby and Robyn Hitchcock. Thoughtful and informative conversations about all aspects of popular music history, interspersed with clips from exclusive audio interviews that date back to the mid-'60s.

The RBP podcast is hosted by Barney Hoskyns and Mark Pringle and co-hosted & produced by Jasper Murison-Bowie. We're a proud part of Pantheon — the podcast network for music lovers.

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E162: Billy Bragg on forty roaring years + Skif...
The left's very own "national treasure" Billy Bragg joins us to talk about his long and remarkable career
78 min
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E161: Mick Gold on Let It Rock + Pub Rock + Bru...
We ask Mick Gold to return to the mid-'70s to discuss pub rock, Bruce Springsteen and the wonderful Let It Rock magazine.
71 min
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E160: Richard Grabel on Hip Hop + Kool Lady Blu...
Richard Grabel reminisces about his long career as a journalist and music-biz lawyer
65 min
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E159: Vernon Gibbs on Marvin Gaye + Talking Hea...
Vernon Gibbs looks back on his career as a pioneering soul scribe and A&R man
75 min
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E158: Charles Shaar Murray on the NME + John Le...
We welcome NME legend Charles Shaar Murray to reminisce about his career
66 min
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E157: Jim Farber on Glam Rock + Marc Bolan + Si...
Acclaimed New York writer Jim Farber tells us about "growing up gay to a Glam Rock soundtrack"
81 min
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E156: Richard Boon on Buzzcocks + Manchester + ...
We're joined by Richard Boon to talk all things Manchester, from Buzzcocks to the Smiths and beyond
54 min
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E155: Robyn Hitchcock on the Soft Boys + David ...
We invite the inimitable Robyn Hitchcock to reminisce about his heroically nonconformist career
87 min
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E154: Richard Morton Jack on Nick Drake + Steve...
Richard Morton Jack joins us to talk about his monumental new biography of Nick Drake
80 min
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E153: Lloyd Bradley on Black London + Tina Turn...
We ask Lloyd Bradley about his career as a journalist and as the author of Bass Culture and Sounds Like London
87 min
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E152: Cliff Jones on Gay Dad + Brian Jones + Pa...
Cliff Jones joins us to talk about his shape-shifting career in music, plus Paul Simon and Brian Jones
83 min
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E151: Sylvia Patterson on Smash Hits + George M...
We ask Sylvia Patterson all about a writer's life lost in music from Smash Hits to the NME and beyond
55 min
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E150: Edwin Pouncey & Sandy Robertson on rock a...
Sandy Robertson and Edwin (Savage Pencil) Pouncey join us to talk about their careers and shared fascination with the occult
69 min
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E149: Andy Beckett on Pop & Politics + The Beat...
Author and Guardian journalist Andy Beckett joins us to discuss politics and pop from the late '70s to the present day
77 min
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E148: Rob Dickins on Warner Bros. + Leon Russel...
We welcome music-industry legend Rob Dickins to tell us about his pop life at Warner Bros.
87 min
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E147: Ellen Sander on rock life in the sixties ...
Ellen Sander joins us to discuss her classic 1973 book Trips: Rock Life in the Sixties
56 min
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E146: Fred Goodman on Rock Films + D.A. Penneba...
The exemplary Fred Goodman joins us to talk about music movies
69 min
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E145: Gary Kemp on Spandau Ballet + Pink Floyd ...
The excellent Gary Kemp joins us at RBP's Hammersmith HQ to talk about Spandau Ballet, the New Romantics and Pink Floyd
90 min
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E144: Pamela Des Barres on the GTOs + Peter Ash...
The truly legendary Pamela Des Barres reminisces about the all-girl GTOs, Frank Zappa, Lowell George and more
56 min
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E143: Nick Hornby on Prince (& Dickens) + Boz S...
In this episode we welcome bestselling author and screenwriter Nick Hornby to RBP's Hammersmith HQ and ask him to talk about his new book Dickens & Prince: A Particular Kind of Genius. We start by asking Nick if his original plan was to become a music journalist, then proceed to his first awareness of Prince in 1979. A broad discussion of the Minneapolitan marvel – and the parallels with Charles Dickens's "no off-switch" prolificacy – takes in his first London show in 1981, his mastering of multiple overlapping genres, his (and Dickens's) "weakness for women"... and the profound shock of his death in 2016. The imminent reissue of Boz Scaggs's 1969 debut album provides the opportunity to hear clips from the late Andy Gill's 1997 audio interview with the blues-soul smoothie. Among other things, Nick, Barney and Jasper touch on Muscle Shoals, Silk Degrees and Boz's spine-tingling version of Richard Hawley's 'There's a Storm Comin''. After Jasper offers his thoughts on newly-added library pieces about the Human League (2000) and British hip hop (2007), we indulge in a brief chat with the Fever Pitch author about football's World Cup, which at the time of recording had reached the semi-final stage. Find out who Nick wanted to win... Many thanks to special guest Nick Hornby. Dickens & Prince: A Particular Kind of Genius is published by Penguin and available now. Note that this episode was recorded on December 14th, four days before the sad news came through that we'd lost Specials/Fun Boy Three star Terry Hall.
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E142: Paul Gorman on the rise and fall of the m...
In this episode we welcome writer, curator and consultant Paul Gorman and ask him about his new book Totally Wired: The Rise and Fall of the Music Press. In a loose and free-ranging conversation, our guest reflects on various eras and aspects of all that Rock's Backpages is about, from the launch of Melody Maker almost 100 years ago to the online ecosystem of Instagram and Tik Tok in the present day. Along the way we cover everything from Crawdaddy! to Smash Hits via marginalised women writers and feuds between musicians and journalists. (Listen out for the unsettling sound of Nick Cave describing his new "hate" song 'Scum' to interviewer Mat Snow.) We also hear clips from Frank Broughton's 1998 audio interview with Time Out's late founder Tony Elliott. By way of paying tribute to the late Christine McVie, there are further audio clips in the episode, this time from John Pidgeon's 1977 interview with Fleetwood Mac, plus we bid a sad farewell to Stax Records co-founder Jim Stewart. Mark selects his highlights from recent additions to the RBP library, quoting from pieces about Marianne Faithfull, Ravi Shankar, Alexis Korner and the mighty Pat Benatar, after which Jasper concludes matters with remarks on articles about Odd Future and the brilliant Billie Eilish. Many thanks to special guest Paul Gorman; Totally Wired is published by Thames & Hudson and available now from all good bookshops. Visit Paul's website at paulgormanis.com and follow him on Instagram at _paul_gorman_.
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E141: RJ Smith on Chuck Berry + Ice-T + Black L...
In this episode we invite esteemed author RJ Smith to tell us about his career, his adopted Los Angeles, and his new biography of Chuck Berry. We start in Detroit, where RJ was raised on a diet of AM radio, the Stooges and Creem magazine, then follow him to New York and his decade of writing for the Village Voice. He talks about the impact of Lester Bangs and Robert Christgau before explaining why he followed the Voice's executive editor Kit Rachlis to California and the L.A. Weekly. We hear how he became fascinated by the pre-rock history of African-American L.A. and how that led to the publication of The Great Black Way (2008). His fourth book, Chuck Berry: An American Life, gives us the opportunity to discuss the problematic brilliance of St. Louis's "Black bard of white teen angst", a half-century after the creepy novelty comedy of 'My Ding-a-Ling' gave the Black-rock pioneer a No. 1 hit on both sides of the Atlantic. We return to our L.A. theme to hear clips from a 1991 audio interview in which Tracy "Ice-T" Marrow talks to Andy Gill about the birth of gangsta rap and his thrash-metal side project Body Count. RJ recalls his own writing about West Coast hip hop before we say a sad goodbye to the great Wilko Johnson and hear the-then Dr. Feelgood guitarist speaking to Mick Gold in 1975. Mark quotes from some of the pieces he's added to the RBP library, including interviews with Long John Baldry and Olivia Newton-John, after which Jasper wraps matters up with remarks on articles about Deadmau5 and Asian Dub Foundation.
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E140: Holly Gleason on Women in Country + Guy C...
In the new episode of the Rock's Backpages podcast, we welcome the splendid Holly Gleason, all the way from downtown Nashville, and invite her to tell us about her life as a country music writer and publicist. Holly explains how, as a teenage championship golfer, she first became enamoured of country in her native state of Ohio, later writing about it (as well as about rap and R&B) for the Miami Herald. Tying in the episode's main theme with Woman Walk the Line – the wonderful essay collection she assembled and edited in 2017 – Holly's hosts ask her about her favourite female artists from Emmylou Harris to Taylor Swift. Along the way she gives us the inside lowdown on "Music City" – having just attended 2022's CMA Awards – and talks fascinatingly about Lil Nas X and Billy Ray Cyrus. The week's new audio interview, with the late great Guy Clark, gives us a chance to discuss that unpigeonholeable singer-songwriter, his complicated friendship with Townes Van Zandt, and his influence on disciples such as Steve Earle and Rodney Crowell. Two clips from John Tobler's 1986 interview with Guy prompt tearful memories of Holly's friendship with the Texan troubadour. After we've said our own sad goodbyes to Melody Maker mainstay Colin Irwin, Low's Mimi Parker and Nazareth frontman Dan McCafferty, Mark and Jasper talk us out with their favourite new additions to the RBP library including interviews with Patti Smith and Little Simz.
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E139: Billy James on Bob Dylan + Columbia Recor...
In this episode we welcome the legendary Billy James, all the way from the Bay Area, and tap him for his memories of working with Bob Dylan, the Doors and more. We start with Dylan and the interview the young Minnesotan gave to Billy in October 1961 in the latter's capacity as a Columbia Records publicist. Billy reminisces about his early interactions with the kid born Zimmerman; we hear a snatch of that 1961 audio, plus two clips from Eric Von Schmidt talking to Larry Jaffee about his friendship with Bob in that same period. In passing, we mention two great Dylan pieces by the week's featured scribe Greil Marcus, author of a new Bob "biography in seven songs" entitled Folk Music. From the early Bob years we switch coasts to California, where Billy worked in Columbia's Hollywood office and fell in with the Byrds between arranging press conferences for Patti Page, Percy Faith and his beloved Tony Bennett (pictured in the photo Billy is holding above). Finally, he talks about Terry Melcher, Elektra Records, the Doors, and the significant part he played in putting Laurel Canyon on L.A.'s pop map after moving up there from Beverly Hills in 1965...
68 min
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E138: Kid Congo Powers on the Cramps + the Gun ...
In this episode we welcome the delightful Kid Congo Powers, all the way from his home in Tucson, and ask him to talk about his former lives in the Gun Club, the Cramps and the Bad Seeds — as detailed in the riveting new memoir Some New Kind of Kick. The man born Brian Tristan looks back to his teen fanboy years from Frank Zappa to the New York Dolls, plus his memories of the L.A. glitter scene at Rodney's English Disco. He describes how it felt — as a gay Mexican American — to be a misfit among mainly white misfits on the punk scenes in L.A. and New York. He also explains how the Gun Club was conceived after he met Jeffrey Lee Pierce while queuing for a 1979 Pere Ubu show at the Whisky. We hear how Kid was then headhunted by the Cramps' Lux and Ivy, and what it was like to be part of their ghoulish B-movie aesthetic. We similarly learn how he was recruited (and "cast") as one of Nick Cave's drug-addled Bad Seeds in mid-'80s Berlin. From the decline and premature death of Jeffrey Lee Pierce — via Kid's own eventual long-term sobriety — we shift into the rarefied and erudite world of Brian Eno, an iconic glam influence on the young Brian Tristan. Clips from Mark Sinker's 1992 audio interview with pop's resident egghead are heard, leading in turn to discussion of Eno's collaborations with Robert Fripp and Toby Amies' remarkable new King Crimson documentary. Mark talks us through pieces about the Stones' 'Jumpin' Jack Flash' (1968), classic-blues septuagenarian Victoria Spivey (1975), the Police (1979) and Joe Bataan & Arthur Baker (1996) after which Jasper concludes the episode with quotes from pieces on bodyguard-to-the-stars Michael Francis (2003) and the "rise and rise" of Pharrell Williams (2015).
68 min