Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Business
Technology
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Skydio CEO argues more drones will make us safer
Adam Bry on competing with China, mass surveillance, and why Silicon Valley shouldn't draw red lines for drone use.
69 min
2
Condé Nast CEO Roger Lynch on AI, the Met Gala ...
Friend of the show Peter Kafka interviews Conde Naste CEO Roger Lynch on an episode of Channels.
50 min
3
Microsoft AI chief thinks superintelligence is ...
Mustafa Suleyman on automation, OpenAI, and why it's 'dangerous' to call AI 'alive.’
71 min
4
Elon Musk is steamrolling Wall Street to become...
The SpaceX IPO is shaping up to be the greatest Musk gambit yet.
44 min
5
AI is blowing up music. How should the Grammys ...
Recording Academy CEO Harvey Mason Jr on creativity in the age of AI
61 min
6
Rivian's software chief thinks you don't need C...
65 min
7
How Sundar Pichai is rethinking Google for the ...
The Google CEO discusses AI, the future of search, and what’s happening to the web.
47 min
8
Musk v Altman: Much ado about nothing
We sent Liz Lopatto to Musk v Altman and all we got was this episode of Decoder
31 min
9
Exclusive: Jonah Peretti explains why he sold B...
BuzzFeed's soon-to-be-former CEO on AI, social media, and the end of an era
67 min
10
How companies weaponize the terms of service ag...
Brendan Ballou’s new book on the rise, and hopefully fall, of forced arbitration
51 min
11
Joanna Stern is not a robot, but she lived with...
Tech journalist Joanna Stern on her new book I Am Not A Robot and starting her own media company.
56 min
12
Rewind: How AI is fueling an existential crisis...
The system is broken. ChatGPT cheating is just a symptom.
37 min
13
Dara Khosrowshahi on replacing Uber drivers — a...
Uber’s CEO on his plan to make Uber an everything app and take over travel.
70 min
14
How to win — or lose — Decoder
Nilay joins as the guest to discuss our AI coverage, controversial episodes, and what it takes to succeed or fail on Decoder.
40 min
15
That UL safety logo is a lot more complicated t...
UL CEO Jennifer Scanlon on why safety matters in the AI era
59 min
16
THE PEOPLE DO NOT YEARN FOR AUTOMATION
Software brain is changing the world, but most people still aren’t buying.
15 min
17
Canva's CEO on its big pivot to AI enterprise s...
Why Melanie Perkins is sure Canva can take on the big AI players.
62 min
18
Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman's "unconstrained" re...
The head of OpenAI has a reputation for deception. The New Yorker’s Ronan Farrow explains why that matters.
57 min
19
Can Puck’s CEO reinvent the news business for t...
Sarah Personette’s big bet on the place where influencers and reporters might meet
70 min
20
The AI industry's existential race for profits
It’s a make-or-break year for Anthropic and OpenAI, which are facing more pressure than ever to make more cash than they burn.
35 min
21
Cisco CEO Chuck Robbins wants data centers in s...
Chuck Robbins on energy, infrastructure, and why AI is writing Cisco code.
53 min
22
A jury says Meta and Google hurt a kid. What now?
Why nuclear options like age limits and repealing Section 230 won’t make social media safer.
46 min
23
Okta's CEO is betting big on AI agent identity
Why Todd McKinnon thinks it’s “naive” not to prepare for the SaaSpocalypse.
62 min
24
Everyone hates Ticketmaster. Why'd Trump go eas...
The Trump DOJ settled with Live Nation. But dozens of states are keeping the Ticketmaster antitrust fight alive.
33 min
25
Confronting the CEO of the AI company that impe...
Superhuman CEO Shishir Mehrotra on the difference between attribution and impersonation, and what AI companies should owe creators.
71 min