Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Technology
1
AI broke the cybersecurity world. Now what?
Alex Stamos goes inside the security ‘dark age’
60 min
2
The hidden supply chain costs of the AI boom
45 min
3
Why Peacock is making a huge bet on YouTube
NBCU Media Group head Matt Strauss on sports, streaming, and keeping you watching.
65 min
4
Inside Anthropic’s trillion-dollar AI gamble
SemiAnalysis' Joey Brookhart joins to break down the Anthropic S-1 and why he thinks the company could be worth $10 trillion.
41 min
5
Kevin Roose is AGI-pilled. Why aren't you?
The author of The AGI Chronicles and cofounder of Machine Gods on going all-in on YouTube and the AI race.
64 min
6
Bill Gates says to prepare for 20 years of ‘tum...
The Microsoft cofounder isn't an AI doomer, but he says it’s still “the most dangerous weapon of all time.”
72 min
7
JB Pritzker thinks AI could help us live to 100...
The Illinois governor on AI, data centers, privacy, and Trump
54 min
8
Why Elon Musk wants to sell you cell service
Cell service isn’t rocket ships or flying cars, but it could be a booming business for SpaceX.
51 min
9
Benn Jordan thinks the surveillance problem is ...
The musician and YouTuber on fighting for privacy and becoming the face of the anti-Flock movement.
58 min
10
Rewind: Ronan Farrow on Sam Altman’s ‘unconstra...
Revisiting our conversation with The New Yorker’s Ronan Farrow about Sam Atlman and his reputation for deception.
55 min
11
Another billionaire thinks he can fix Warner Bros.
Maybe the fifth time's the charm?
42 min
12
OpenAI has a Muse problem
Meta's real advantage in the AI agent race isn't its AI.
41 min
13
Adam Schiff on AI regulation, free speech, and ...
Congress missed its chance on social media. Can it act on AI?
54 min
14
The AI warnings are getting louder
Nilay went on Apple News In Conversation to discuss the ongoing AI safety debate with host Shumita Basu.
33 min
15
How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data ...
What the Utah data center disaster, with Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary at the center, tells about AI backlash.
40 min
16
The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's...
Mike Cannon-Brookes on AI in the enterprise, Atlassian's new org chart, and why chatbots aren’t the future of work.
72 min
17
Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?
CEO Matthew Prince’s mission to remake the business of the web for the AI age.
75 min
18
I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg
What Mark Zuckerberg needs to answer about Meta Glasses, AI, and teen safety
18 min
19
Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?
Bloomberg’s chief Apple correspondent Mark Gurman on Siri, Tim Cook’s legacy, and what to expect from new CEO John Ternus.
54 min
20
Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn...
Former DOJ antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter on competition and cartels in AI
43 min
21
Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and ...
Mustafa Suleyman on the AI safety debate, why AI isn't consciousness, and how the industry pushes toward alignment.
48 min
22
Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everyt...
The comedian, podcast host, and, yes, YouTuber on the state of media
60 min
23
Why the current tech backlash feels different
Answering your Decoder questions about surveillance, AI coverage, and the Nilay rant.
50 min
24
How Sonos rebooted itself
CEO Tom Conrad on cleaning up Sonos' app redesign disaster and turning a speaker company into a software platform.
69 min
25
New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should...
Big Tech is welcome in New York — but not like this
46 min