Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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The AI warnings are getting louder
Nilay went on Apple News In Conversation to discuss the ongoing AI safety debate with host Shumita Basu.
33 min
2
How Utah locals fought Kevin O'Leary's AI data ...
What the Utah data center disaster, with Shark Tank star Kevin O’Leary at the center, tells about AI backlash.
40 min
3
The SaaSpocalypse that wasn't, with Atlassian's...
Mike Cannon-Brookes on AI in the enterprise, Atlassian's new org chart, and why chatbots aren’t the future of work.
72 min
4
Can Cloudflare save the web from AI?
CEO Matthew Prince’s mission to remake the business of the web for the AI age.
75 min
5
I have some questions for Mark Zuckerberg
What Mark Zuckerberg needs to answer about Meta Glasses, AI, and teen safety
18 min
6
Can John Ternus find Apple's next big thing?
Bloomberg’s chief Apple correspondent Mark Gurman on Siri, Tim Cook’s legacy, and what to expect from new CEO John Ternus.
54 min
7
Does AI need an antitrust exemption so it doesn...
Former DOJ antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter on competition and cartels in AI
43 min
8
Microsoft AI CEO says AI threats are real, and ...
Mustafa Suleyman on the AI safety debate, why AI isn't consciousness, and how the industry pushes toward alignment.
48 min
9
Adam Conover explains how YouTube ruined everyt...
The comedian, podcast host, and, yes, YouTuber on the state of media
60 min
10
Why the current tech backlash feels different
Answering your Decoder questions about surveillance, AI coverage, and the Nilay rant.
50 min
11
How Sonos rebooted itself
CEO Tom Conrad on cleaning up Sonos' app redesign disaster and turning a speaker company into a software platform.
69 min
12
New York Governor Kathy Hochul thinks AI should...
Big Tech is welcome in New York — but not like this
46 min
13
OpenAI's executive exodus has one big winner
Sam Altman is still OpenAI’s CEO. But in recent months, president and cofounder Greg Brockman has emerged as the real day-to-day leader.
36 min
14
How GoFundMe became America's backup plan
CEO Tim Cadogan on how a for-profit company becomes a social safety net
73 min
15
Welcome to the AI crisis in math
New AI discoveries have left the math world 'shell shocked' and uncertain about the future.
36 min
16
It's about ethics in journalism, with Ben Smith
Semafor's editor-in-chief on billionaire owners, news influencers, and the anti-scale era of media.
67 min
17
Does Google even want to win in AI?
Is the shakeup at Google DeepMind a strategy or a crisis?
34 min
18
Bose CEO Lila Snyder on the fight for high-qual...
Snyder on the company's move into luxury audio, licensing the Bose brand, and how great sound survives in the AI era.
62 min
19
The left and right agree on one thing: no data ...
How Florida's data center bans are a proxy for public opinion on AI.
33 min
20
Bluesky’s new CEO wants a big tent, not a bubble
CEO Toni Schneider on protocols, community, and control.
71 min
21
The end of the human internet
The Gray Area host Sean Illing interviewing The Atlantic’s Charlie Warzel about the “bot-haunted internet.”
38 min
22
Tariffs didn’t bring manufacturing jobs back to...
Altana CEO Evan Smith on the new normal of global trade.
69 min
23
What Apple’s OpenAI lawsuit is really about
Apple’s legal battle with OpenAI concerns more than trade secrets — it’s about who gets to define the post-smartphone era.
41 min
24
Dr. Jill Lepore on why the AI backlash is vital...
The ‘Artificial State’ author explains how counting everything breaks society and college grads booing AI might save us all.
55 min
25
Proton’s CTO: No company is going to jail for you
Bart Butler on encryption, child safety, and why there's no such thing as a backdoor for only the good guys.
81 min