Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Recode Decode: Barry Lyga and Morgan Baden
"The Hive" authors Barry Lyga and Morgan Baden talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about how they came to write a young adult book about a social media dystopia, based on a cinematic idea from actor Jennifer Beals and producer Tom Jacobson.
45 min
Recode Decode: Symone Sanders
Symone Sanders, a senior advisor to Joe Biden and former national press secretary for Bernie Sanders, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the 2020 campaign and her new memoir, "No, You Shut Up: Speaking Truth to Power and Reclaiming America."
46 min
Recode Decode: Jason Fried
Basecamp CEO Jason Fried talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's new email product, Hey, which he describes as "the most ambitious and stupidest thing we’ve ever done."
54 min
Recode Decode: Katie Couric
Katie Couric, the former host of the Today Show and anchor of the CBS Evening News, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the current moment of political protest feels unlike anything that came before; the fine line between objectivity and advocacy in journalism; and her upcoming memoir, "Unexpected."
57 min
Recode Decode: Jill Lepore
American historian and New Yorker staff writer Jill Lepore talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new podcast, "The Last Archive," which investigates "who killed truth?" in the style of a true-crime show.
53 min
Recode Decode: Bart Gellman
Journalist and author Bart Gellman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his newest book, "Dark Mirror: Edward Snowden and the American Surveillance State."
59 min
Recode Decode: Andy Puddicombe, Robin Arzon, an...
Recode's Kara Swisher talks with three guests about how to take care of your mind, body, and spirit while in quarantine: Headspace co-founder Andy Puddicombe, Peloton's head instructor Robin Arzon. and former Democratic presidential candidate Marianne Williamson.
65 min
Recode Decode: Frances Frei
Harvard Business School professor Frances Frei talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the new book she wrote with her wife Anne Morriss, "Unleashed: The Unapologetic Leader's Guide to Empowering Everyone Around You."
46 min
Recode Decode: Daniel Schreiber
Lemonade CEO and co-founder Daniel Schreiber talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about what happens to an insurance in a crisis like COVID-19, how some of the money from Lemonade customers' premiums will be allocated to coronavirus relief, and whether the insurance industry can be fully automated.
46 min
Recode Decode: Jon Mooallem
New York Times Magazine writer-at-large Jon Mooallem talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his newest book, "This Is Chance!: The Shaking of an All-American City, A Voice That Held It Together."
45 min
Recode Decode: Phil Howard and Emily Bell
Phil Howard, the Oxford Internet Institute director and author of "Lie Machines," and Emily Bell, the director of Columbia University's Tow Center for Digital Journalism, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of disinformation and propaganda in the coronavirus pandemic and how what we're hearing this year compares to the state-organized propaganda that infected elections in 2016.
57 min
Recode Decode: Dara Khosrowshahi
Uber CEO Dara Khosrowshahi talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about Uber's evolving response to the COVID-19 pandemic, how it's preparing for the world to re-open, and the one segment of the company that is thriving right now — its food delivery business, UberEats.
63 min
Recode Decode: Brian Chesky
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky returns to Recode Decode to talk with Kara Swisher about how the company is "going back to our roots" after the COVID-19 pandemic delayed its IPO; the future of travel and hospitality in a world with way fewer people taking airplanes; and how Airbnb tried to "lead by example" in its severance payments and benefits to laid-off employees.
65 min
Recode Decode: Gene Sperling
Former Clinton and Obama economic advisor Gene Sperling talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest book, "Economic Dignity," and how the COVID-19 pandemic is changing attitudes toward essential labor and compensation.
51 min
Recode Decode: Casey Newton and Louie Swisher
Recode's Kara Swisher talks with the Verge's Casey Newton and her older son, Louie Swisher, about how the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine has affected their tech habits.
57 min
Recode Decode: Jon Meacham
Historian and bestselling author Jon Meacham talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new podcast Hope Through History, which shows how Americans endured crises such as the Great Depression and the 1918 flu pandemic and came out the other side as a stronger nation.
44 min
Recode Decode: Maye Musk
Model and dietitian Maye Musk (the mother of Tesla/SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, entrepreneur Kimbal Musk, and filmmaker Tosca Musk) talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her memoir, "A Woman Makes a Plan: Advice for a Lifetime of Adventure, Beauty, and Success."
44 min
Recode Decode: Joe Walsh
Former Republican Congressman Joe Walsh talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he tried to primary Donald Trump earlier this year, how the Republican Party became a "cult," and his recent book, "F*ck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is."
48 min
Recode Decode: Scott Galloway
NYU Professor and "Pivot" co-host Scott Galloway returns to "Recode Decode" to talk about his new show on Vice TV, "No Mercy, No Malice with Professor Scott Galloway."
66 min
Recode Decode: Alexis Coe
Political historian Alexis Coe talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her latest book, "You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington," which seeks to break the staid formula by which all other books about America's first president have been written.
60 min
Recode Decode: Alex Kantrowitz
BuzzFeed News reporter Alex Kantrowitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Always Day One: How The Tech Titans Plan To Stay On Top Forever."
53 min
Recode Decode: Ryan Murphy
TV producer Ryan Murphy — who created or produced shows like Glee, 911, and American Horror Story — talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new Netflix miniseries, Hollywood, which blends real history with fictional characters to imagine a more inclusive "what-if" version of the postwar film business.
61 min
Recode Decode: Dave Asprey
Bulletproof founder and former CEO Dave Asprey talks about the invention and current state of “biohacking," how his blog for “bulletproof executives” grew into a global lifestyle, and the most important ways to track and improve one’s life.
65 min
Recode Decode: Nikole Hannah-Jones
New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the coronavirus pandemic is magnifying inequality in the US, and our historical failure to treat essential workers — from meat-packing plants to checkout counters to delivery drivers — with the respect and protection they deserve.
50 min
Recode Decode: Sarah Kendzior
Bestselling author and "Gaslit Nation" co-host Sarah Kendzior talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America"; what pundits get wrong about propaganda and election interference; and the “insane way” journalists treat Donald Trump’s Twitter bully pulpit.
58 min