Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Recode Decode: Brian Chesky
Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky returns to Recode Decode to talk with Kara Swisher about how the company is "going back to our roots" after the COVID-19 pandemic delayed its IPO; the future of travel and hospitality in a world with way fewer people taking airplanes; and how Airbnb tried to "lead by example" in its severance payments and benefits to laid-off employees.
65 min
Recode Decode: Gene Sperling
Former Clinton and Obama economic advisor Gene Sperling talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest book, "Economic Dignity," and how the COVID-19 pandemic is changing attitudes toward essential labor and compensation.
51 min
Recode Decode: Casey Newton and Louie Swisher
Recode's Kara Swisher talks with the Verge's Casey Newton and her older son, Louie Swisher, about how the COVID-19 pandemic and quarantine has affected their tech habits.
57 min
Recode Decode: Jon Meacham
Historian and bestselling author Jon Meacham talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new podcast Hope Through History, which shows how Americans endured crises such as the Great Depression and the 1918 flu pandemic and came out the other side as a stronger nation.
44 min
Recode Decode: Maye Musk
Model and dietitian Maye Musk (the mother of Tesla/SpaceX CEO Elon Musk, entrepreneur Kimbal Musk, and filmmaker Tosca Musk) talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her memoir, "A Woman Makes a Plan: Advice for a Lifetime of Adventure, Beauty, and Success."
44 min
Recode Decode: Joe Walsh
Former Republican Congressman Joe Walsh talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he tried to primary Donald Trump earlier this year, how the Republican Party became a "cult," and his recent book, "F*ck Silence: Calling Trump Out for the Cultish, Moronic, Authoritarian Con Man He Is."
48 min
Recode Decode: Scott Galloway
NYU Professor and "Pivot" co-host Scott Galloway returns to "Recode Decode" to talk about his new show on Vice TV, "No Mercy, No Malice with Professor Scott Galloway."
66 min
Recode Decode: Alexis Coe
Political historian Alexis Coe talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her latest book, "You Never Forget Your First: A Biography of George Washington," which seeks to break the staid formula by which all other books about America's first president have been written.
60 min
Recode Decode: Alex Kantrowitz
BuzzFeed News reporter Alex Kantrowitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Always Day One: How The Tech Titans Plan To Stay On Top Forever."
53 min
Recode Decode: Ryan Murphy
TV producer Ryan Murphy — who created or produced shows like Glee, 911, and American Horror Story — talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new Netflix miniseries, Hollywood, which blends real history with fictional characters to imagine a more inclusive "what-if" version of the postwar film business.
61 min
Recode Decode: Dave Asprey
Bulletproof founder and former CEO Dave Asprey talks about the invention and current state of “biohacking," how his blog for “bulletproof executives” grew into a global lifestyle, and the most important ways to track and improve one’s life.
65 min
Recode Decode: Nikole Hannah-Jones
New York Times Magazine reporter Nikole Hannah-Jones talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the coronavirus pandemic is magnifying inequality in the US, and our historical failure to treat essential workers — from meat-packing plants to checkout counters to delivery drivers — with the respect and protection they deserve.
50 min
Recode Decode: Sarah Kendzior
Bestselling author and "Gaslit Nation" co-host Sarah Kendzior talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "Hiding in Plain Sight: The Invention of Donald Trump and the Erosion of America"; what pundits get wrong about propaganda and election interference; and the “insane way” journalists treat Donald Trump’s Twitter bully pulpit.
58 min
Recode Decode: Tim Ferriss
Bestselling author and podcaster Tim Ferriss talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his advice for people coping with the coronavirus quarantine, which includes giving yourself slack for being unproductive, afraid, and fatigued; the crucial difference between fast decisions and rushed ones; and why the pandemic crisis is a "natural culling of the herd" for businesses in a "bloated capitalist system" that have no resilience.
67 min
Recode Decode: Mark Cuban
Investor, Dallas Mavericks owner, and "Shark Tank" co-host Mark Cuban talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about what capitalism and entrepreneurship looks like in a post-coronavirus world; whether he's planning to run for political office, and what his platform would be if he did; and what it will take for professional sports to come back.
61 min
Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed
San Francisco Mayor London Breed talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why she was one of the first local leaders in the US to act on the spread of covid-19, how she thinks about the slow and dishonest response from President Trump, and what long-term recovery will look like for SF and beyond.
61 min
Recode Decode: Jeffrey Katzenberg
Quibi founder Jeffrey Katzenberg talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the first week of the short-form video app — which was intended for on-the-go consumers, but still racked up 1.7 million downloads, even though most of the world is currently staying at home.
60 min
Recode Decode: Sarah Frier
Bloomberg technology reporter Sarah Frier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "No Filter: The Inside Story of Instagram."
50 min
Recode Decode: Adam Grant
Organizational psychologist Adam Grant, the author of "Originals" and host of the podcast "WorkLife," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the benefits of working from home, and how work will change during the COVID-19 quarantine — and after.
54 min
Recode Decode: Niall Ferguson
Historian Niall Ferguson, the author of bestselling books such as "The Ascent of Money" and "The Square and the Tower," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new PBS series, "Networld," which explores the history and science of networks.
53 min
Recode Decode: Kevin Systrom
Instagram co-founder and former CEO Kevin Systrom talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the data analysis he has conducted and publicized about the global spread of coronavirus, and what it tells us the future looks like.
49 min
Recode Decode: David Plouffe
Former Obama advisor David Plouffe — who since leaving the White House has worked with Uber, the Chan-Zuckerberg Initiative, and Acronym — talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, A Citizen's Guide to Beating Donald Trump.
57 min
Recode Decode: Stewart Butterfield
Slack CEO Stewart Butterfield talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how coronavirus changed everything for Slack and its customers, the sudden transition to "work from home" across the country, and how the company is handling a surge in usage at the same time that other plans and resources are being constrained.
55 min
Recode Decode: Gary Vaynerchuk
VaynerMedia CEO Gary Vaynerchuk
66 min
Recode Decode: Deepak Chopra
Dr. Deepak Chopra talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how to cope with the global threat posed by coronavirus, the parallel "pandemic of panic," and how to not be overwhelmed by fear and anxiety.
56 min