Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recode Decode: "Antisocial" author Andrew Marantz
Andrew Marantz, a staff writer at the New Yorker, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Antisocial: Online Extremists, Techno‑Utopians, and the Hijacking of the American Conversation."
62 min
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Recode Decode: Former HP CEO Carly Fiorina
Carly Fiorina, the former CEO of HP who ran for the Republican nomination for president in 2016, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about campaigning against Donald Trump, her friendship with Apple co-founder Steve Jobs, and the over-concentration of power among a handful of CEOs in the tech industry.
63 min
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Recode Decode: FEC Chair Ellen Weintraub
Federal Election Commission Chair Ellen Weintraub talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the FEC works, how it tries to defend elections from foreign influence, and why the Commission is currently immobilized by a lack of "quorum."
61 min
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Recode Decode: Obama's cybersecurity chief Mich...
President Barack Obama's former cybersecurity coordinator Michael Daniel, now the chief of the nonprofit Cyber Threat Alliance, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about the state of US cybersecurity heading into the 2020 elections.
63 min
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Recode Decode: FTC Commissioner Rebecca Kelly S...
Rebecca Kelly Slaughter, one of the FTC's two Democratic commissioners, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of antitrust problems in the tech industry, the history of pushback against the FTC for alleged over-enforcement, and whether it is under-enforcing the law today.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Senator Mark Warner
Mark Warner, the senior US Senator from Virginia, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about several interconnected policy issues affecting the 2020 elections, including the security of voter registries, the expectation of social media manipulation by Russia and other hostile foreign powers, and the newly announced impeachment inquiry into President Trump's phone call with Ukrainian president Volodymyr Zelensky.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Whistleblower Aid CEO John Tye
John Napier Tye, the founder and CEO of Whistleblower Aid, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how his non-profit law firm helps people seeking to legally expose corruption in the government and at private companies.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder
Recode's Kara Swisher talks with Hermitage Capital CEO Bill Browder, a hedge fund manager turned human rights activist and his son, Josh Browder, whose company DoNotPay helps consumers fight everything from parking tickets to the Equifax leaks.
42 min
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Recode Decode: "She Said" authors Jodi Kantor a...
New York Times reporters Jodi Kantor and Megan Twohey talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "She Said: Breaking the Sexual Harassment Story That Helped Ignite a Movement."
65 min
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Recode Decode: Blackstone CEO Steve Schwarzman
Steve Schwarzman, the CEO of the private equity firm The Blackstone Group, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, What It Takes: Lessons in the Pursuit of Excellence.
64 min
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Recode Decode: NYC Mayor Bill de Blasio
Bill de Blasio, the mayor of New York City, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why he's still running for the Democratic nomination in 2020, the threat of job automation and his proposed "robot tax," and how de Blasio thinks about the future of transit in New York and beyond.
73 min
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Recode Decode: 2020 presidential candidate Mari...
Author and spiritual teacher Marianne Williamson talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her campaign to be the Democratic nominee for president in 2020.
66 min
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Recode Decode: The Wing CEO Audrey Gelman
Audrey Gelman, the co-founder and CEO of women's coworking space The Wing, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's new hiring network for its members, and how it can combat bias in hiring.
43 min
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Recode Decode: Microsoft President Brad Smith
Microsoft President Brad Smith talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, co-authored with Carol Ann Browne, Tools and Weapons: The Promise and the Peril of the Digital Age.
65 min
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Recode Decode: Why workers need to be part of t...
New York Times labor and workplaces reporter Steve Greenhouse talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, Beaten Down, Worked Up: The Past, Present, and Future of American Labor.
52 min
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Recode Decode: "The Enlightened Capitalists" au...
James O'Toole, a professor emeritus at the University of Southern California, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his book, "The Enlightened Capitalists: Cautionary Tales of Business Pioneers Who Tried to Do Well by Doing Good."
43 min
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Recode Decode: Psychologist Jennifer Eberhardt
Jennifer Eberhardt, professor of psychology at Stanford University, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her most recent book, "Biased: Uncovering the Hidden Prejudice That Shapes What We See, Think, and Do."
51 min
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Recode Decode: Lime president Joe Kraus
Lime President Joe Kraus talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the company's pivot from bikes to scooters, the "unbundling of the car," and the impact of scooters on cities and public transit.
64 min
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Recode Decode: Gro Intelligence CEO Sara Menker
Gro Intelligence founder and CEO Sara Menker talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the growing field of ag-tech and how farmers around the world are using data.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Huawei's chief security officer ...
Andy Purdy, the chief security officer for Huawei Technologies USA, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher.
42 min
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Recode Decode: CDA 230
Recode's Kara Swisher convenes a panel of experts to talk about section 230 of the Communications Decency Act: cybersecurity law professor Jeff Kosseff, author of "The Twenty Six Words That Created The Internet"; lawyer Carrie Goldberg, author of "Nobody’s Victim: Fighting Psychos, Stalkers, Pervs, and Trolls"; and the CEO and founder of Techdirt, Mike Masnick.
62 min
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Recode Decode: "Cult of the Dead Cow" author Jo...
Writer Joe Menn talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "Cult of the Dead Cow: How the Original Hacking Supergroup Might Just Save the World."
49 min
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Recode Decode: Index Ventures' Mike Volpi and D...
Mike Volpi and Danny Rimer, the co-founders of the San Francisco office of Index Ventures, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Ro Khanna
US Congressman Ro Khanna, who represents California's 17th district, joins Recode's Kara Swisher live onstage at Manny's in San Francisco to talk about the state of tech policy and the next elections.
56 min
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Recode Decode: Andreessen Horowitz's Scott Kupor
Scott Kupor, the managing partner of Andreessen Horowitz, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher and Teddy Schleifer about his new book, Secrets of Sand Hill Road: Venture Capital and How to Get It.
61 min
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Recode Decode: Why Silicon Valley loves "biohac...
Inspired by the trendiness of "intermittent fasting" in the tech community, Kara Swisher's executive producer, Erica Anderson, talks with three eating habit experts — a biohacker, an academic, and an eating disorder specialist.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Stanford University's Larry Diamond
Larry Diamond, a professor at Stanford University and senior fellow at the Hoover Institution, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Ill Winds: Saving Democracy from Russian Rage, Chinese Ambition, and American Complacency.
51 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Lauren Underwood
Lauren Underwood, the US Congresswoman who represents Illinois' 14th district, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded on July 29, 2019 at Manny's in San Francisco.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Pearson CEO John Fallon
Pearson CEO John Fallon talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the company is pivoting from print to digital textbooks.
48 min
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Recode Decode: “The Great Hack” director Karim ...
In this live interview, Recode's Kara Swisher talks with former Cambridge Analytica COO Julian Wheatland, early Facebook investor Roger McNamee, and the director and writer of the new Netflix documentary The Great Hack — Karim Amer and Pedro Kos.
66 min
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Recode Decode: Megan Rapinoe
On the 400th episode of Recode Decode, Megan Rapinoe, the co-captain of the US Women's National Soccer Team, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher. This live conversation was recorded at the Mobile Marketing Association CEO & CMO Summit in Sonoma, CA.
58 min
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Recode Decode: Reddit CEO Steve Huffman
Reddit CEO Steve Huffman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded at Manny's in San Francisco.
55 min
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Recode Decode: Stitch Fix CEO Katrina Lake
Stitch Fix founder and CEO Katrina Lake talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the future of retail, how the company has changed in the past nine years, and the rarity of female tech CEOs.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Rep. Adam Schiff
Congressman Adam Schiff, who represents California’s 28th district and chairs the House Intelligence Committee, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the 2020 election, the Russia investigation, and more.
51 min
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Recode Decode: Andrew Yang
Entrepreneur and Venture for America founder Andrew Yang talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign to be the Democratic nominee in the 2020 presidential race.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Senator Michael Bennet
Michael Bennet, the senior U.S. Senator from Colorado, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the intersection of social media and politics, and running for president in 2020.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Mayor Pete Buttigieg
Pete Buttigieg, the mayor of South Bend, Ind., talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his campaign for president of the United States.
44 min
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Recode Decode: Harley-Davidson CEO Matthew Leva...
Harley-Davidson president and CEO Matthew Levatich talks with Recode's Kara Swisher live onstage at the 2019 Code Conference.
35 min
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Recode Decode: Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner
Writer Taffy Brodesser-Akner talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her popular profiles of public figures such as Gwyneth Paltrow and her new novel, "Fleishman Is in Trouble."
60 min
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Recode Decode: Journalist Carole Cadwalladr
Carole Cadwalladr, a reporter for the Guardian and Observer, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her investigations into the Cambridge Analytica scandal and the links between tech and political disinformation campaigns.
72 min
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Recode Decode: Long-Term Stock Exchange founder...
Eric Ries, the founder of the Long-Term Stock Exchange and author of "The Lean Startup," talks with Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
33 min
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Recode Decode: "Russian Doll" star Natasha Lyon...
Actor and producer Natasha Lyonne ("Russian Doll," "Orange Is the New Black") and Netflix's vice president of original content Cindy Holland talk with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference.
40 min
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Recode Decode: Rockfeller Foundation president ...
Rockfeller Foundation president Raj Shah and Goldman Sachs CEO David Solomon talk with Recode's Teddy Schleifer at the 2019 Code Conference.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian (...
Delta Air Lines CEO Ed Bastian talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Jason Del Rey at the 2019 Code Conference.
39 min
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Recode Decode: MIT Media Lab director Joi Ito
Joichi "Joi" Ito, the director of the MIT Media Lab, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about engineers who over-simplify the world's problems, the Media Lab's role in "surveillance capitalism," and why the values of the tech world will shift from within.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Instagram's Adam Mosseri, Facebo...
In these live interviews from the 2019 Code Conference, Casey Newton first talks to Instagram boss Adam Mosseri and Facebook's head of AR and VR, Andrew "Boz" Bosworth; then; later in the show, he interviews three former tech insiders: ex-Googler Jessica Powell, ex-Facebooker Antonio García-Martínez, and ex-Twitter lawyer Nicole Wong.
57 min
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Recode Decode: Fair Fight Action founder Stacey...
Georgia politician Stacey Abrams and her former campaign manager Lauren Groh-Wargo, now the co-founders of Fair Fight Action, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher and Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
53 min
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Recode Decode: RAICES immigration activists Jon...
Jonathan Ryan and Erika Andiola, the CEO and chief advocacy officer at RAICES, talk with Vox.com's Ezra Klein at the 2019 Code Conference.
33 min
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Recode Decode: Amazon Web Services CEO Andy Jas...
Andy Jassy, the CEO of Amazon's cloud computing service AWS, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher at the 2019 Code Conference.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Twitter's Vijaya Gadde and Kayvo...
Vijaya Gadde, who leads the legal and trust and safety teams at Twitter, and Periscope co-founder Kayvon Beykpour, who's now the company's head of product, talk with Recode's Kara Swisher and Peter Kafka at the 2019 Code Conference in Scottsdale, Ariz.
46 min
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Recode Decode: The Intercept's Mehdi Hasan
Mehdi Hasan, a columnist at the Intercept and host of its weekly podcast Deconstructed, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher.
58 min
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Recode Decode: CNN's Jim Sciutto
CNN's chief national security correspondent Jim Sciutto talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, The Shadow War: Inside Russia’s and China's Secret Operations to Defeat America.
56 min
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Recode Decode: Michele Madansky
Media market research consultant Michele Madansky talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about The Elephant in the Valley, her study into the prevalence of harassment in tech that was first conducted in 2016 and recently updated with new statistics.
43 min
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Recode Decode: Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani
Girls Who Code CEO Reshma Saujani talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the challenges facing women in the tech industry and what everyone can do to make progress happen faster.
40 min
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Recode Decode: Susan Hockfield
Former MIT president Susan Hockfield talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "The Age of Living Machines: How Biology Will Build the Next Technology Revolution."
53 min
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Recode Decode: Investors Mark Cuban and Steve C...
In these live interviews recorded at the 2019 SALT Conference in Las Vegas, Recode's Kara Swisher talks to investors Mark Cuban and Steve Case and talent agent Scooter Braun.
63 min
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Recode Decode: DuckDuckGo CEO Gabe Weinberg
DuckDuckGo CEO Gabe Weinberg talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher in this live conversation recorded at Made By We in New York City.
53 min
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Recode Decode: Facebook’s former security boss ...
Ex-Facebook security boss Alex Stamos and Twitter co-founder Ev Williams (Live)
44 min
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Recode Decode: Anand Giridharadas
"Winners Take All" author Anand Giridharadas talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher in this live conversation recorded at Made By We in New York City.
54 min
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Recode Decode: Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse
Ripple CEO Brad Garlinghouse talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about bringing legitimate financial institutions into the formerly-sketchy world of blockchain and cryptocurrencies.
55 min
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Recode Decode: “Good to Great” author Jim Collins
Jim Collins, the author of business books such as "Built to Last" and "Good to Great," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest work, "Turning the Flywheel."
59 min
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Recode Decode: Preet Bharara
Preet Bharara, the former U.S. Attorney for the Southern District of New York and host of the podcast "Stay Tuned With Preet," talks with Recode's Kara Swisher.
62 min
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Recode Decode: Former Secretary of Defense Ash ...
In this live conversation recorded at Harvard University's Kennedy School of Government, Recode's Kara Swisher talks with Ash Carter, the former Secretary of Defense under President Obama who now runs the Belfer Center for Science and International Affairs.
77 min
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Recode Decode: Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes
Facebook co-founder Chris Hughes talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent New York Times op-ed, "It's Time to Break Up Facebook."
52 min
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Recode Decode: Esther Wojcicki
Author and journalism educator Esther Wojcicki, Silicon Valley’s “mother of dragons,” talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, How to Raise Successful People.
48 min
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Recode Decode: Sam Harris
Writer and podcaster Sam Harris talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his views on Islam, social media, and President Trump.
96 min
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Recode Decode: Tristan Harris
Tristan Harris, the co-founder of the Center for Humane Technology, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the latest problem he and his peers are trying to solve: "Human downgrading."
61 min
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Recode Decode: Scott Galloway
NYU professor and Pivot co-host Scott Galloway talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "The Algebra of Happiness."
58 min
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Recode Decode: Mayor London Breed
San Francisco Mayor London Breed talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded at Manny's in the Mission District.
75 min
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Recode Decode: Trash in space, diversity in STE...
Kara Swisher's executive producer, Erica Anderson, talks with four TED Fellows at the 2019 TED Conference in Vancouver.
61 min
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Recode Decode: Journalist Julia Angwin
Julia Angwin, the former editor-in-chief of The Markup, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live podcast recorded in Washington, DC.
42 min
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Recode Decode: Why thinking about your death fi...
WeCroak co-founder Hansa Bergwall talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his mobile app, which reminds users of death five times a day.
40 min
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Recode Decode: Why tech is "flunking" the diver...
Venture capitalist and prominent activist Freada Kapor Klein, the founder of Kapor Capital, talks with Recode's Teddy Schleifer about diversity in tech and impact investing.
57 min
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Recode Decode: Ford CTO Ken Washington
Ford CTO Ken Washington talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about AI and autonomous vehicles in this live interview recorded at the Studio Theatre in Washington, DC.
64 min
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Recode Decode: PBS CEO Paula Kerger
Paula Kerger, the president and CEO of PBS, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of public media as President Trump is trying to cut its federal funding.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi
U.S. Speaker of the House Nancy Pelosi talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about breaking up Big Tech, immigration, hate speech, and more.
46 min
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Recode Decode: "The Uninhabitable Earth" author...
Journalist David Wallace-Wells talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "The Uninhabitable Earth: Life After Warming."
51 min
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Recode Decode: Meredith Whittaker and Kate Craw...
AI Now Institute founders Meredith Whittaker and Kate Crawford talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about artificial intelligence in this live interview recorded at the Studio Theatre in Washington, DC.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Valerie Jarrett
Valerie Jarrett, who was a senior adviser to President Barack Obama from 2009 to 2017, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book "Finding My Voice: My Journey to the West Wing and the Path Forward."
59 min
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Recode Decode: Ashton Applewhite
Writer and activist Ashton Applewhite talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "This Chair Rocks: A Manifesto Against Ageism."
40 min
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Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rames...
Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of daily news podcasts and the future of the medium.
49 min
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Recode Decode: Backstage Capital founder Arlan ...
Backstage Capital founder Arlan Hamilton and Deeds Not Words founder Wendy Davis talk with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview from South by Southwest 2019.
64 min
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Recode Decode: dtx CEO Tim Armstrong and Poshma...
Two interviews from An Evening With Code Commerce in Las Vegas: First, the dtx company CEO Tim Armstrong talks with Recode's Kara Swisher and Jason Del Rey; then, Poshmark CEO Manish Chandra talks with Del Rey.
85 min
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Recode Decode: Richard Walker
Historian and urbanist Richard Walker, a professor emeritus at UC Berkeley, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his latest book, "Pictures of a Gone City: Tech and the Dark Side of Prosperity in the San Francisco Bay Area."
51 min
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Recode Decode: Margrethe Vestager, European Com...
European Commissioner for Competition Margrethe Vestager talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in front of a live audience at South by Southwest 2019.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Senator Amy Klobuchar
Amy Klobuchar, the senior U.S. Senator from Minnesota who is running for the Democratic Party's nomination in the 2020 presidential race, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in front of a live audience at South by Southwest.
63 min
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Recode Decode: Kathy Griffin
Comedian Kathy Griffin talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the photo shoot that got her investigated by the Secret Service — and her new self-financed stand-up special, "A Hell of a Story."
59 min
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Recode Decode: YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki
YouTube CEO Susan Wojcicki talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded at Lesbians Who Tech in San Francisco.
29 min
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Recode Decode: Hudson's Bay Company CEO Helena ...
Hudson's Bay Company CEO Helena Foulkes talks with Recode's Kara Swisher in this live interview recorded at An Evening With Code Commerce in Las Vegas.
36 min
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Recode Decode: Laurene Powell Jobs
Laurene Powell Jobs, the founder of the Emerson Collective, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about journalism, VR, and activism.
28 min
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Recode Decode: Chamath Palihapitiya
Social Capital CEO Chamath Palihapitiya talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher and Teddy Schleifer about an “identity crisis” that pitted his wealth and fame against personal happiness and relationships.
63 min
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Recode Decode: News Media Alliance CEO David Ch...
David Chavern, the president and CEO of the nonprofit News Media Alliance, talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about advocating on behalf of journalists in Washington, D.C.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Lora Haddock
Lora DiCarlo CEO Lora Haddock talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the process of designing an innovative new sex toy for women — and the fight to get mainstream acceptance for her invention.
38 min
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Recode Decode: Rhizome artistic director Michae...
Michael Connor, the artistic director of the digital art community Rhizome, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the group's museum exhibit, "The Art Happens Here," and the future of art made on the internet.
45 min
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Recode Decode: Shoshana Zuboff
Harvard Business School professor emerita Shoshana Zuboff talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her new book, "The Age of Surveillance Capitalism: The Fight for a Human Future at the New Frontier of Power."
47 min
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Recode Decode: IAC chairman Barry Diller
Barry Diller, the chairman of IAC and the Expedia Group, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the state of the tech and media industries, problematic people in power and why Diller is building a new public park in New York.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Center for Democracy and Technol...
Nuala O'Connor, the CEO of the Center for Democracy and Technology, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how the group she leads is lobbying the government and private companies on issues like consumer privacy and free speech.
47 min
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Recode Decode: "Zucked" author Roger McNamee
Elevation Partners founding partner Roger McNamee talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, "Zucked: Waking Up to the Facebook Catastrophe."
69 min
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Recode Decode: “The Mastermind” author Evan Rat...
Journalist and Pop-Up Magazine co-founder Evan Ratliff talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "The Mastermind: Drugs, Empire, Murder, Betrayal."
47 min
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Recode Decode: Spencer Stuart executive recruit...
James Citrin, the head of Spencer Stuart CEO Practice, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about placing top executives at companies like Yahoo, PayPal, eBay, Twitter, Cisco, Pandora and Hulu.
52 min