Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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How Trump's tariff chaos is already changing gl...
Altana CEO Evan Smith on the end of globalization and the future of the iPhone.
63 min
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Why the Take It Down Act is a not a law, but a ...
Congress’ new anti-deepfake bill might give Trump an unprecedented tool to target his enemies.
43 min
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Dow Jones CEO Almar Latour on AI, press freedom...
The WSJ publisher’s thoughts on what it takes for journalism to thrive in 2025
60 min
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Flying is still safe, for now — but the FAA isn’t
The FAA is dealing with crashes, layoffs, and outdated tech. Now Elon Musk wants in.
37 min
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Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa...
After nearly 20 years at Microsoft, Panos was ready to dive in on the challenge.
65 min
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Elon Musk's polarizing ascent in the MAGA movement
Inside the MAGA movement's confusing, contradictory relationship to Big Tech
31 min
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Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer is betting on the human ...
AI tools are here to stay, he says, but Vimeo wants to build on “authenticity."
69 min
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Why gaming never had its Netflix moment
Xbox Game Pass was supposed to bring subscriptions to gaming. It hasn't really worked.
50 min
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The FCC is a now a weapon in Trump’s war on fre...
Brendan Carr is apparently on a mission to trash the First Amendment
42 min
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Sen. Ron Wyden is here to stop Elon Musk
‘For all practical purposes, I'd call this a coup.’
54 min
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Elon Musk's presidency is just getting started
The billionaire is taking over the federal government and remaking it in Twitter’s image.
36 min
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Bookshop CEO Andy Hunter's crusade to save book...
The company is amping up its fight with a new frontier: ebooks.
62 min
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DeepSeek, Stargate, and the new AI arms race
The Chinese chatbot and OpenAI’s new data center venture present a stark contrast for the future of AI.
25 min
39
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO G...
One of the biggest tech companies you've never heard of is helping you listen to this podcast.
69 min
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How Meta's MAGA heel turn is a play for global ...
Law professor Kate Klonick explains what Big Tech’s Trump appeasement is really about.
45 min
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Why CEO Matt Garman is willing to bet AWS on AI
The head of AWS says Amazon is already seeing the benefits of its AI investments.
62 min
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Studying online bad behavior was hard. It's goi...
Friend of the show Peter Kafka interviews disinformation researcher Renee DiResta on an episode of Channels.
53 min
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Answering your biggest Decoder questions
Our end-of-year wrap up special, featuring Nilay Patel.
50 min
44
Tech antitrust is about to get really weird
Trump’s second term is a regulatory wild card hanging over Big Tech.
33 min
45
Arm CEO Rene Haas on the AI chip race, Intel, a...
The head of the ubiquitous chip design firm on the ‘breaktaking’ pace of AI.
38 min
46
Platforms need the news, but they're killing it
Matt Pearce on 'Lessons on media policy at the slaughter-bench of history'
51 min
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Why every company wants a podcast now
The rise of the 'nefariously' B2B podcast’
35 min
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Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman says conversa...
The head of Microsoft’s new AI division on leaving Google, OpenAI, and when superintelligence might actually arrive.
69 min
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AI is a money pit — here’s why investors don’t ...
AI investment is massive, but AI profits are not. How are investors justifying this pricey gamble on the future?
31 min
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Rewind: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber on the future of...
Revisiting our conversation with the head of Bluesky in light of its explosive growth.
67 min