Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Google CEO Sundar Pichai on the next phase of AI
43 min
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Why Uber's CEO is okay with reinventing the bus
Dara Khosrowshahi on autonomy, AI agents, and the future of ride sharing.
59 min
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Microsoft CTO Kevin Scott on how AI can save th...
One of Microsoft’s top AI leaders on the future of agents, web search, and AI art.
66 min
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Workday's new product head hopes he can make yo...
Gerrit Kazmaier on AI and making enterprise software suck less
69 min
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Did Apple get too big for its own good?
Daring Fireball’s John Gruber on the latest in Epic v. Apple and why the iPhone maker is under threat.
74 min
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Reuters is ready to stand up for the press — an...
President Paul Bascobert on distribution, press freedom, and the value of facts.
61 min
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NYT publisher AG Sulzberger on Trump, OpenAI, a...
Peter Kafka sat down with the publisher of The Times on this episode of the Channels podcast.
62 min
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What Trump has broken in 100 days
Tariffs, TikTok, censorship, safety, and the DOGE of it all
44 min
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Decoder Live: Fired FTC commissioners fight back
A core thesis for our era: ‘Bribery is bad, even when it doesn’t work.’
50 min
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The case for breaking up Google has never been ...
Former DOJ antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter explains why.
64 min
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Verizon’s consumer chief: Net neutrality ‘went ...
Sowmyanarayan Sampath on the 5G race with China and the perils of standing up to the new Trump administration.
64 min
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How Trump’s tariffs actually work on the ground
Flexport CEO Ryan Petersen with an air-, sea-, and ground-level view on the tariff fallout.
59 min
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Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood's Vl...
From meme stocks to bank accounts, how Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev is expanding his turf.
70 min
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Why DOGE is killing the agency that stops banks...
Rohit Chopra, Trump’s fired Wall Street watchdog, on the future of financial regulation
44 min
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UiPath CEO Daniel Dines on AI agents replacing ...
UiPath’s future depends on agentic AI, which could change everything about the automation business.
62 min
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What AI anime memes tell us about the future of...
The Studio Ghibli saga has blown the AI art debate wide open.
51 min
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How Unity CEO Matt Bromberg stopped the ‘war’ a...
How Unity weathered a user revolt and refocused on its game engine.
66 min
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Capitalism vs. the bird flu
What happens when a deadly, pathogenic virus collides with Big Agriculture?
41 min
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Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava on why push-button ...
The sample platform behind “Espresso” on where to draw the line with AI tech in music.
62 min
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The movement to take down Tesla
How Elon Musk turned the Tesla brand toxic
42 min
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How Trump's tariff chaos is already changing gl...
Altana CEO Evan Smith on the end of globalization and the future of the iPhone.
63 min
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Why the Take It Down Act is a not a law, but a ...
Congress’ new anti-deepfake bill might give Trump an unprecedented tool to target his enemies.
43 min
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Dow Jones CEO Almar Latour on AI, press freedom...
The WSJ publisher’s thoughts on what it takes for journalism to thrive in 2025
60 min
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Flying is still safe, for now — but the FAA isn’t
The FAA is dealing with crashes, layoffs, and outdated tech. Now Elon Musk wants in.
37 min
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Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa...
After nearly 20 years at Microsoft, Panos was ready to dive in on the challenge.
65 min