Decoder with Nilay Patel
Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.
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DeepSeek, Stargate, and the new AI arms race
The Chinese chatbot and OpenAI’s new data center venture present a stark contrast for the future of AI.
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How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO G...
One of the biggest tech companies you've never heard of is helping you listen to this podcast.
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How Meta's MAGA heel turn is a play for global ...
Law professor Kate Klonick explains what Big Tech’s Trump appeasement is really about.
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Why CEO Matt Garman is willing to bet AWS on AI
The head of AWS says Amazon is already seeing the benefits of its AI investments.
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Studying online bad behavior was hard. It's goi...
Friend of the show Peter Kafka interviews disinformation researcher Renee DiResta on an episode of Channels.
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Answering your biggest Decoder questions
Our end-of-year wrap up special, featuring Nilay Patel.
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Tech antitrust is about to get really weird
Trump’s second term is a regulatory wild card hanging over Big Tech.
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Arm CEO Rene Haas on the AI chip race, Intel, a...
The head of the ubiquitous chip design firm on the ‘breaktaking’ pace of AI.
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Platforms need the news, but they're killing it
Matt Pearce on 'Lessons on media policy at the slaughter-bench of history'
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Why every company wants a podcast now
The rise of the 'nefariously' B2B podcast’
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Microsoft AI CEO Mustafa Suleyman says conversa...
The head of Microsoft’s new AI division on leaving Google, OpenAI, and when superintelligence might actually arrive.
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AI is a money pit — here’s why investors don’t ...
AI investment is massive, but AI profits are not. How are investors justifying this pricey gamble on the future?
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Rewind: Bluesky CEO Jay Graber on the future of...
Revisiting our conversation with the head of Bluesky in light of its explosive growth.
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GoDaddy CEO Aman Bhutani on the enduring power ...
Despite everything, websites are still a pretty neat idea — but what if AI builds them?
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Remix: Google Zero is here — now what?
Search is an invisible platform that shaped the entire web. And it’s changing.
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Will the world end before I can retire?
An episode from Vox’s Explain It To Me about how and when you should start saving for retirement — and will it even matter.
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How Trump’s second term could be bad for EVs, b...
What Elon Musk really wants from a Trump presidency.
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Why the Grammys need to change, with CEO Harvey...
Rebooting the member list, taking the show streaming — is it enough in the age of AI?
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Return-to-office mandates are more than "backdo...
Big tech companies want workers back at their desks. Is it about productivity, headcount reduction, or something else?
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Why GM ditched CarPlay, with software boss Bari...
GM’s new SVP of software and services on the importance of building in-car experiences.
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“It’s the First Amendment, stupid”
The bizarre fight between Trump and broadcast TV
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Airbnb CEO Brian Chesky on what founder mode re...
The head of Airbnb on the gospel of Steve Jobs and being “in the details.”
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The AI arms race to build digital god
Understanding the AI industry’s latest, grandest manifesto — and what AGI might do for humanity.
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Intuit asked us to delete part of this Decoder ...
The maker of TurboTax disagrees with its controversial reputation for lobbying.
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How influencers are changing advertising with D...
The head of the major North America agency on the rise of the influencer as creative director.
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