Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recode Decode: David Kaye
David Kaye, the special rapporteur for freedom of opinion and expression at the United Nations, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the hacking of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos' phone by the Saudi Arabian government; why it’s easier than ever for governments to suppress information spread by journalists and dissidents; and the inherent danger of internet companies and governments collecting massive amounts of data about us.
55 min
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Recode Decode: Larry Ingrassia
Journalist Larry Ingrassia talks with Recode’s Jason Del Rey about his new book, "Billion Dollar Brand Club: How Dollar Shave Club, Warby Parker, and Other Disruptors Are Remaking What We Buy."
49 min
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Recode Decode: Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker
Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "A Very Stable Genius: Donald J. Trump's Testing of America."
63 min
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Recode Decode: Mark Surman
Mozilla Foundation executive director Mark Surman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the internet needs a "public option," how Mozilla's browser Firefox is positioning itself for the future, and the future of tech regulation.
48 min
330
Recode Decode: Anna Wiener
Anna Wiener, a contributing writer for the New Yorker and the author of the new book Uncanny Valley: A Memoir, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why she left an old industry — book publishing — to work in tech, the "intoxicating" start to her new career, and how her views on tech culture changed over time.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Dave Eggers
Writer and McSweeney's founder Dave Eggers talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new satirical novel, "The Captain and the Glory."
53 min
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Recode Decode: Franklin Leonard
The Black List founder Franklin Leonard talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he accidentally created one of the most important lists in Hollywood and how he turned it into a real business for connecting screenwriters with producers.
46 min
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Recode Decode: Ezra Klein
Vox.com co-founder Ezra Klein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Why We're Polarized, the rise of systemic "zero sum" party politics, and how Klein himself has been polarizing in the Trump era.
66 min
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Recode Decode: Annalee Newitz
Sci-fi novelist and science journalist Annalee Newitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "The Future of Another Timeline."
47 min
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Recode Decode: Numa Perrier and Tiffany Tenille
Numa Perrier and Tiffany Tenille, the director and star of the new Netflix film "Jezebel," talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about Perrier's real-life experience as an online sex worker in the 1990s and turning that into a movie.
54 min
336
Recode Decode: The L Word
"The L Word" creator Ilene Chaiken and actors Jennifer Beals, Kate Moennig, and Leisha Hailey talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their decision to reunite for a new series called "The L Word: Generation Q," 10 years after the original show ended.
62 min
337
Recode Decode: Kirsten Green
Forerunner Ventures founder and managing partner Kirsten Green talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the thinking behind her investments in companies like Dollar Shave Club and Glossier; the messy culture struggle at luggage startup Away; and where innovation comes from in today's tech industry.
65 min
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Recode Decode: Ben Silbermann
Pinterest CEO Ben Silbermann talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about deliberately engineering happiness into the site, expanding into commerce, and competing with larger social and commerce tech companies.
30 min
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Recode Decode: Jeanette Winterson
Writer Jeanette Winterson talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about her latest book, Frankissstein: A Love Story.
59 min
340
Recode Decode: Jason DeParle
New York Times reporter Jason DeParle talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "A Good Provider Is One Who Leaves: One Family and Migration in the 21st Century."
47 min
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Recode Decode: Megan Rapinoe
Megan Rapinoe, the co-captain of the US Women's National Soccer Team, returns to Recode Decode to talk with Recode's Kara Swisher.
23 min
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Recode Decode: David Epstein
Journalist and bestselling author David Epstein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his most recent book, "Range: Why Generalists Triumph in a Specialized World."
51 min
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Recode Decode: The Swisher family
Kara Swisher convenes her brother, her sons, her mother and her fiancée to talk about their tech habits and how they get their news in a contentious election year.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Bruce Schneier
Security researcher Bruce Schneier talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his recent book, "Click Here to Kill Everybody."
62 min
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Recode Decode: (Bonus) How To Save the 2020 Ele...
If you like Recode Decode, we think you'll also like Function with Anil Dash. Here's a recent episode about stopping fake news ahead of the 2020 US elections.
47 min
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Best of Recode Decode: 2019
Recode's Kara Swisher, her executive producer Erica Anderson, and her producer Eric Johnson discuss their favorite Recode Decode interviews from 2019 and look back at some of the year's big trends.
60 min
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Recode Decode: Liz Plank
Journalist Liz Plank talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about her recent book, "For the Love of Men: A New Vision for Mindful Masculinity."
55 min
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Recode Decode: Dylan Collins
SuperAwesome CEO Dylan Collins talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he got interested in children's digital privacy at a time when Silicon Valley didn't care, how his company works with tech firms to help them comply with privacy laws, and SuperAwesome's in-development video platform for kids, Rukkaz.
50 min
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Recode Decode: Tom Steyer
2020 presidential candidate Tom Steyer talks with Recode's Teddy Schleiefer about income inequality and wealth in America, what separates him from fellow ultra-wealthy candidate Michael Bloomberg, and why we should expect the government to solve problems — not plutocrats who have pledged to give their money away.
40 min
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Recode Decode: Ben Mezrich
Writer Ben Mezrich talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his latest book "Bitcoin Billionaires" and his previous books, including "The Accidental Billionaires," which was adapted into the movie "The Social Network."
56 min