Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

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Recode Decode: Ron Klain
"Epidemic" co-host Ron Klain, who led the White House's ebola response under President Obama, talks to Recode's Kara Swisher about how the COVID-19 outbreak will strain America's healthcare system; how President Trump downplayed the crisis, rattling public confidence and delaying the country's response; and the way people who work in the gig economy — including Uber drivers and food delivery workers — will be especially hurt by the situation.
62 min
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Recode Decode: Dr. Lloyd Minor
Dr. Lloyd Minor, the dean of Stanford University's School of Medicine, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the novel coronavirus outbreak and his new book, "Discovering Precision Health: Predict, Prevent, and Cure to Advance Health and Well-Being."
44 min
303
Recode Decode: Mark Lemley
Stanford Law School professor Mark Lemley talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about Silicon Valley's obsession with startups getting an "exit" — usually an acquisition by one of the tech giants — and why that trend is suffocating innovation.
42 min
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Recode Decode: Aicha Evans and Jesse Levinson
Zoox CEO Aicha Evans and CTO Jesse Levinson talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their development of a fully autonomous robo-taxi, which will be designed for multiple passengers to share and is planned to hit public roads before the end of 2021.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Dan Pfeiffer
Pod Save America co-host Dan Pfeiffer talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, "Un-Trumping America: A Plan to Make America a Democracy Again."
45 min
306
Recode Decode: Jason Calacanis
Inside CEO and This Week in Startups host Jason Calacanis talks with Kara Swisher about the future of Uber after its troubled IPO, why one of the tech giants should buy Tesla, and Jeff Bezos' achilles heel: His lack of generosity.
62 min
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Recode Decode: Conor Dougherty
New York Times reporter Conor Dougherty talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about his new book, "Golden Gates: Fighting For Housing in America.”
58 min
308
Recode Decode: Jorge Ramos
Univision anchor Jorge Ramos talks with Recode’s Kara Swisher about how much of the Latino vote President Trump might get in 2020, why Bernie Sanders’ praise of communist Cuba in the 1980s might cost him dearly in a general election, and why it’s important that journalists practice contrapoder — being on the other side of power.
56 min
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Recode Decode: Steven Levy
Technology journalist and Wired editor-at-large Steven Levy talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his latest book, "Facebook: The Inside Story."
64 min
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Recode Decode: Peter Diamandis and Steven Kotler
Authors Peter Diamandis and Steven Kotler talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their latest book together, "The Future Is Faster Than You Think: How Converging Technologies Are Disrupting Business, Industries, and Our Lives."
60 min
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Recode Decode: Caleb Scharf
Caleb Scharf, the director of Astrobiology at Columbia University, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the under=discussed dangers humans would face in space and the rise of private space exploration, as championed by billionaires such as Elon Musk and Richard Branson.
51 min
312
Recode Decode: Corey Johnson
Corey Johnson, the Speaker of the New York City Council and an candidate in the 2021 mayoral race, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about expanding transit and bike lanes, attracting tech investment in the city, and what it's like to be a politician today.
61 min
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Recode Decode: David Kaye
David Kaye, the special rapporteur for freedom of opinion and expression at the United Nations, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the hacking of Amazon CEO Jeff Bezos' phone by the Saudi Arabian government; why it’s easier than ever for governments to suppress information spread by journalists and dissidents; and the inherent danger of internet companies and governments collecting massive amounts of data about us.
55 min
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Recode Decode: Larry Ingrassia
Journalist Larry Ingrassia talks with Recode’s Jason Del Rey about his new book, "Billion Dollar Brand Club: How Dollar Shave Club, Warby Parker, and Other Disruptors Are Remaking What We Buy."
49 min
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Recode Decode: Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker
Washington Post reporters Carol Leonnig and Phil Rucker talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "A Very Stable Genius: Donald J. Trump's Testing of America."
63 min
316
Recode Decode: Mark Surman
Mozilla Foundation executive director Mark Surman talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why the internet needs a "public option," how Mozilla's browser Firefox is positioning itself for the future, and the future of tech regulation.
48 min
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Recode Decode: Anna Wiener
Anna Wiener, a contributing writer for the New Yorker and the author of the new book Uncanny Valley: A Memoir, talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about why she left an old industry — book publishing — to work in tech, the "intoxicating" start to her new career, and how her views on tech culture changed over time.
59 min
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Recode Decode: Dave Eggers
Writer and McSweeney's founder Dave Eggers talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new satirical novel, "The Captain and the Glory."
53 min
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Recode Decode: Franklin Leonard
The Black List founder Franklin Leonard talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about how he accidentally created one of the most important lists in Hollywood and how he turned it into a real business for connecting screenwriters with producers.
46 min
320
Recode Decode: Ezra Klein
Vox.com co-founder Ezra Klein talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about his new book, Why We're Polarized, the rise of systemic "zero sum" party politics, and how Klein himself has been polarizing in the Trump era.
66 min
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Recode Decode: Annalee Newitz
Sci-fi novelist and science journalist Annalee Newitz talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about their new book, "The Future of Another Timeline."
47 min
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Recode Decode: Numa Perrier and Tiffany Tenille
Numa Perrier and Tiffany Tenille, the director and star of the new Netflix film "Jezebel," talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about Perrier's real-life experience as an online sex worker in the 1990s and turning that into a movie.
54 min
323
Recode Decode: The L Word
"The L Word" creator Ilene Chaiken and actors Jennifer Beals, Kate Moennig, and Leisha Hailey talk with Recode's Kara Swisher about their decision to reunite for a new series called "The L Word: Generation Q," 10 years after the original show ended.
62 min
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Recode Decode: Kirsten Green
Forerunner Ventures founder and managing partner Kirsten Green talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about the thinking behind her investments in companies like Dollar Shave Club and Glossier; the messy culture struggle at luggage startup Away; and where innovation comes from in today's tech industry.
65 min
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Recode Decode: Ben Silbermann
Pinterest CEO Ben Silbermann talks with Recode's Kara Swisher about deliberately engineering happiness into the site, expanding into commerce, and competing with larger social and commerce tech companies.
30 min