Decoder with Nilay Patel

Decoder is a show from The Verge about big ideas — and other problems. Verge editor-in-chief Nilay Patel talks to a diverse cast of innovators and policymakers at the frontiers of business and technology to reveal how they’re navigating an ever-changing landscape, what keeps them up at night, and what it all means for our shared future.

Business
Technology
1
The case for breaking up Google has never been ...
Former DOJ antitrust chief Jonathan Kanter explains why.
64 min
2
Verizon’s consumer chief: Net neutrality ‘went ...
Sowmyanarayan Sampath on the 5G race with China and the perils of standing up to the new Trump administration.
64 min
3
How Trump’s tariffs actually work on the ground
Flexport CEO Ryan Petersen with an air-, sea-, and ground-level view on the tariff fallout.
59 min
4
Are prediction markets gambling? Robinhood's Vl...
From meme stocks to bank accounts, how Robinhood CEO Vlad Tenev is expanding his turf.
70 min
5
Why DOGE is killing the agency that stops banks...
Rohit Chopra, Trump’s fired Wall Street watchdog, on the future of financial regulation
44 min
6
UiPath CEO Daniel Dines on AI agents replacing ...
UiPath’s future depends on agentic AI, which could change everything about the automation business.
62 min
7
What AI anime memes tell us about the future of...
The Studio Ghibli saga has blown the AI art debate wide open.
51 min
8
How Unity CEO Matt Bromberg stopped the ‘war’ a...
How Unity weathered a user revolt and refocused on its game engine.
66 min
9
Capitalism vs. the bird flu
What happens when a deadly, pathogenic virus collides with Big Agriculture?
41 min
10
Splice CEO Kakul Srivastava on why push-button ...
The sample platform behind “Espresso” on where to draw the line with AI tech in music.
62 min
11
The movement to take down Tesla
How Elon Musk turned the Tesla brand toxic
42 min
12
How Trump's tariff chaos is already changing gl...
Altana CEO Evan Smith on the end of globalization and the future of the iPhone.
63 min
13
Why the Take It Down Act is a not a law, but a ...
Congress’ new anti-deepfake bill might give Trump an unprecedented tool to target his enemies.
43 min
14
Dow Jones CEO Almar Latour on AI, press freedom...
The WSJ publisher’s thoughts on what it takes for journalism to thrive in 2025
60 min
15
Flying is still safe, for now — but the FAA isn’t
The FAA is dealing with crashes, layoffs, and outdated tech. Now Elon Musk wants in.
37 min
16
Amazon’s Panos Panay on the long road to Alexa...
After nearly 20 years at Microsoft, Panos was ready to dive in on the challenge.
65 min
17
Elon Musk's polarizing ascent in the MAGA movement
Inside the MAGA movement's confusing, contradictory relationship to Big Tech
31 min
18
Vimeo CEO Philip Moyer is betting on the human ...
AI tools are here to stay, he says, but Vimeo wants to build on “authenticity."
69 min
19
Why gaming never had its Netflix moment
Xbox Game Pass was supposed to bring subscriptions to gaming. It hasn't really worked.
50 min
20
The FCC is a now a weapon in Trump’s war on fre...
Brendan Carr is apparently on a mission to trash the First Amendment
42 min
21
Sen. Ron Wyden is here to stop Elon Musk
‘For all practical purposes, I'd call this a coup.’
54 min
22
Elon Musk's presidency is just getting started
The billionaire is taking over the federal government and remaking it in Twitter’s image.
36 min
23
Bookshop CEO Andy Hunter's crusade to save book...
The company is amping up its fight with a new frontier: ebooks.
62 min
24
DeepSeek, Stargate, and the new AI arms race
The Chinese chatbot and OpenAI’s new data center venture present a stark contrast for the future of AI.
25 min
25
How Ciena keeps the internet online, with CEO G...
One of the biggest tech companies you've never heard of is helping you listen to this podcast.
69 min