Off The Looking Glass
Kate Fagan and Jessica Smetana host this magazine style podcast. The show will include a mix of interviews, skits and discussions that consider an alternative historical point of view on culture, as well as women’s sports and those who have critiqued them. While the show is *technically* about sports, it will mostly enter through the side doors of pop culture and comedy, with a northstar of telling the story of (women in) sports with humor, insight, and joy.
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The Hustle
Kate and Jess welcome on Adia Barnes, who talks about the impact of Arizona’s 2021 run to the NCAA title game.
38 min
27
Rocky Top
The duo welcomes Lady Vols’ coach (and former ‘90s star) Kellie Jolly Harper and introduce a new storytelling segment called “Campfire” — this one starring icon Cheryl Miller — that of course leads to a fiery (fire-y) discussion on the merits of S’mores.
36 min
28
Trophies
They’re back in the game! Jess & Kate have a spiffy new logo and brand-new game plan — OTLG is going weekly until the end of time!
31 min
29
Euro Step
In this, the Season 2 Finale, Kate & Jess go INTERNATIONAL, talking all things F1 (and W Series!) with Sky Sports host and professional driver Naomi Schiff.
57 min
30
A Land Before IX
Jess & Kate commemorate the 50th anniversary of Title IX with an “Extra, Extra” that explains why the NCAA running women’s sports is like the fox guarding the hen house. Plus, USWNT midfielder Kristie Mewis — recent reader of The Five Love Languages — joins the show in a wide-ranging interview (from Sam Kerr to A League of Their Own to claiming shotgun as a kid). Oh, and, DON’T SKIP THE ADS!
50 min
31
Grit(iron)
Two-time FIFA world player of the year Carli Lloyd joins Jess & Kate, and she has some thoughts about what she sees as the changing culture of Team USA. Plus, Jess takes us back to the ‘70s for an “Extra, Extra” about her favorite sport. Oh, and — *multiverse alert* — we take a trip to an alternate universe and try to help make men’s sports matter.
50 min
32
Big Waves
Kate and Jess welcome the sensational — and Arby’s-lovin’ — Mo’ne Davis … a convo that briefly plunges the hosts down a youth sports’ rabbit hole; then, in this edition of “Does it Hold Up?”, Jess & Kate face their biggest fear: A Very Big Wave. Plus, the latest edition in the show’s incredibly-popular line of tactical gear!
59 min
33
Stakes and Storylines
Kate and Jess listen to Kate’s recent TedxBoston Talk about why we watch sports. Cameos include Ada Anderson and Inez Patterson of the Philadelphia Tribunes.
22 min
34
Just Sky
Fellow Notre Dame alumnae, Jess & Skylar Diggins Smith, chop it up about ol’ South Bend, then Kate shares an “Extra, Extra” that includes shots of Jack Daniels in paper cups and the phrase “pawnshop proprietor”. Also, OTLG welcomes another new sponsor: the Brag Hotline for Parents. (You probably need it.)
54 min
35
Million Dollar Ideas
Come along as Jess & Kate & Dawn Staley brainstorm the future: the next big signature shoe (Dawn), a game-changing brick and mortar business (Jess), and your next binge-worthy TV obsession from Disney ++, GOOD BOYS (team effort). Oh, um, yeah, and a gritty “Does It Hold Up” that leaves Jess and Kate questioning the wisdom of The Academy.
63 min
36
Trojan Horse
Episode featuring: Cheryl Miller, Extra, Extra on Lynne Cox, and cameo by Dawn Staley.
38 min
37
That’s Showbiz
Jess & Kate drop a trailer for their new blockbuster film, chat WNBA streaming rights with Los Angeles Sparks’ all-everything Nneka Oguwmike, and dip into the 90’s for a “Does It Hold Up?” of epic — or tiny? — proportions. (Hi, Little Giants!)
63 min
38
Leagues Of Their Own
The SEASON 2 PREMIERE! Jess & Kate are giddy over welcoming the iconic Geena Davis, who helps put a bow on Season 1 and addresses the controversial debate: Did Dottie Henson drop the ball on purpose?
47 min
39
Big UConn
Crossover pod alert! Kate and Jess are pulled away from writing Season 2 to join Basketball Illuminati (hi, Tom and Amin) in the pursuit of truth: how and why did UConn end up with a home game to get to the Final Four? We investigate....
23 min
40
March Madness
the top two all-time scorers in NCAA history — Jackie Stiles and Kelsey Plum — tell us the story of how they are linked forever; Kate drops an Extra, Extra about the lingering pain of the most famous upset in tournament history; and the NCAA surprisingly buys ad space for their new product: the POWER card.
43 min
41
GOAT(s?)
A guest fit for a season finale: all-timer Cynthia Cooper joins Jess and Kate and brings her infectious championship attitude, which leads to a brief UConn-tallying rabbit hole; then, Jess (!) flips the script and brings her own ‘Extra, Extra’ that attempts to answer, “Why does softball exist?” — plus, Jon from New York has constructive criticism and Kate and Jess hint at what (and who!) is to come in Season 2.
46 min
42
Penultimate
In this, the second-to-last episode of Season 1, Jess and Kate talk pro leagues — foreign and domestic — with one of the coolest to ever play the game, Ticha Penicheiro, which leads to a rabbit hole about an ex-KGB spy who once ran the most opulent women’s team in the world; then, an “Extra, Extra!” about the first-ever World Champions, the Fort Shaw Indian Boarding School. Plus, goodies (Geoff! Nneka! Ads!) sprinkled throughout.
46 min
43
Shooting Stars
A show filled with a few of the greatest: Jess and Kate are joined by baller-for-life Nancy Lieberman, which leads to a rabbit hole about the late 70s WBL; then, a “Does It Hold Up?” analyzing (perhaps?) the best sports movie of all-time, Love & Basketball.
58 min
44
Pedestrianism
The show goes way back for an Extra, Extra that makes a very modern point: that what we love about sports is more simple than most of us — including the show’s new caller, Geoff from Austin — recognize.
48 min
45
Coach Speak
Two-time NCAA title-winning coach Muffet McGraw -- should we call her “Coach”? -- drops by the show to share her thoughts on the NIL as well as UConn, which leads Kate and Jess down a champagne-popping rabbit hole
49 min
46
Queens
Sue Bird, Megan Rapinoe, Ashlyn Harris, and Ali Krieger ALL join this episode, and so much star power triggers some anxiety from Jess, which Kate admits to sharing.
69 min
47
Road Trip
Buckle up for this one: The OG, Chamique Holdsclaw, stops by the show, which sends Kate and Jess down multiple rabbit holes about heroes and villains and pettiness in sports, then we take a spin with a 26-year-old Pat Summitt as she drives the team van.
70 min
48
Signature Moves
OTLG is back for Episode 3 with (arguably) the best hooper in the world, Brenna Stewart.
48 min
49
Soft Americans?
59 min
50
NO CRYING!
In this, the inaugural episode of OTLG, you’re introduced to everything this show will be about: Kate and Jessica plunging down rabbit holes (UConn privilege, anyone?), mining ideas with superstars (hi, Seimone Augustus!), and deconstructing nostalgic pop culture (“Wait … Madonna is in this?"); also, Mr. Everyman, Kirk from Fort Collins, has opinions on what the show should be about, and the NCAA pitches us on their brand-new app, athlEATS.
66 min