The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Job Board Founder Has a Date with Prison | Goog...
Welcome to another episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast. This week the boys are coming at you on a Sunday morning (more on that in the podcast), which means they still may be a little drunk from Saturday. On this week’s episode, a job board owner...
49 min
1527
The Race for Recruiting Chatbot Glory Heats Up ...
What’s up, party people? On this week’s podcast, the plot between HiQ and LinkedIn thickens, the race to recruiting chatbot glory continues and maybe Microsoft’s ATS sucks more than we thought. “… imagine if a company that you’ve...
48 min
1528
Drinkin’ the LinkedIn Kool-Aid while Furniture ...
What a week. LinkedIn’s annual event took place in Nashville, Tennessee and it was an opportunity for them to drop a big ol’ poop sandwich in the lunch boxes of job boards and ATSs everywhere. Listen to learn why. And speaking of ATSs, Chad thinks...
38 min
1529
LinkedIn’s Jeff Weiner Keynoting Talent Connect...
LinkedIn’s CEO from Talent Connect 2017 discussing the state of the company. Raw and unedited.
22 min
1530
Newspaper Partnerships are Cool Again, Indeed G...
On this week’s edition of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, the boys are getting geared up for their LIVE Podcast in Denver next week at the TATech conference. Speaking of Denver what’s the deal with all of these Cannabis Jobs? Nearly 150,000...
41 min
1531
Firing Squad: GoodTime.io
Goodtime.io’s CEO, Ahryun Moon stares down the barrel of the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad podcast. Firing Squad is a raw podcast focused on allowing recruitment industry startup companies to strut their technology, products, and solutions or just...
26 min
1532
Chad Throws Shade at ZipRecruiter, Crowded Brin...
As we hit the midpoint of September, the news stories are flowing fast, so the boys cover a lot of ground this week. First, Chad goes off on ZipRecruiter, Mayweather-style, dissing their loose definition of “integration,” among other things. Women...
48 min
1533
Interview: Candidate.Guru on Elevated Careers A...
The guys have given eHarmony’s Elevated Careers a hard time from the first podcast. With the belief that candidate matching is more pixie dust and unicorns than real science and a commercially viable product, both Chad and Cheese couldn’t imagine...
25 min
1534
Google Hire is Killing ATSs, Skype is Killing V...
The first show to follow Labor Day weekend finds the guys especially salty and feisty. They start the show with a rant about Dice that follows up one of their best interviews of the year. Then they bring it down a bit with some news from the pizza...
42 min
1535
Live from PracticeLink
This week, the boys broadcasted live from Hinton, West Virginia at ‘s annual corporate event. We had a great time and loved visiting West Virginia and soaking up a little southern hospitality. Much love. We covered our recent interview with...
48 min
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Interview with Dice’s CEO
The boys were really excited to recently chat with Dice’s CEO, Mike Durney. As listeners will know, DHI, Dice’s parent, has been through an interesting year that saw the company look at strategic options for the business (a fancy way of saying,...
40 min
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Interview – Mark Weidick of hiQ Labs and the Ca...
One of the hottest stories in recruitment right now is the legal battle between hiQ and LinkedIn. If you’re not familiar with the case, :   A federal judge issued a huge setback for LinkedIn on Monday, ruling that LinkedIn can’t block...
23 min
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Firing Squad – Vervoe
Startup Vervoe faces the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad. Firing Squad is a podcast which allows a startup company to either showcase their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s a Shark Tank-like podcast with 37 pieces of...
34 min
1539
eHarmony’s Elevated Careers Finally Finds a Mat...
Lots going on this week. Dog days of summer be damned. EHarmony’s Elevated Careers found a buyer in this company and a little crow has to be eaten. Is it a match made in matching heaven? We’ll see. HiQ gets a ‘W’ against the big, bad LinkedIn,...
39 min
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HR is the New PR | Ladders Gets Its TMZ On | Is...
Another big week. The boys cover a grassroots campaign by HiQ to fight-off LinkedIn. Are you in? Indeed has gone shopping, acquiring Interviewed and taking the company into ATS territory. Can Indeed build a platform to take on Google, LinkedIn and...
42 min
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LinkedIn is Out for Blood, Indeed is Dining Out...
The summer of love rolls on, boys and girls. This week, LinkedIn is out for blood, Dice hits rock bottom and there ain’t no party like a microchipping your employee party. But first, the state of Wisconsin is losing its mind or maybe overindulging...
37 min
1542
CareerBuilder Gets a Divorce | Employers are Mi...
Giddyup kids! Episode 19 is in the books. Chad and Cheese are hot on Google Hire’s exploding interest and latest product demo. Chad breaks it down like a math problem. CareerBuilder’s 15 year marriage to Gannett ended in divorce this week....
30 min
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Google Hire Officially Launches, Indeed and Lin...
The boys are back after the 4th holiday and Chad trekking to Oregon for college visitations. And it’s a good thing, because the news was hot-and-heavy this week. Google Hire officially launched. Are the guys impressed or not? Indeed and LinkedIn...
40 min
1544
Talking Millennials, Employment Brand and Emplo...
This week, we deliver an interview with the CEO of Wonderlic, Charlie Wonderlic. Football fans will recognize the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they provide for the NFL during the combine.
34 min
1545
Jumping into Indeed’s Walled Garden Against Goo...
Still a little hungover from the 4th of July holiday, the boys dive into Indeed’s walled garden against Google, wonder if old school job board SEO is dead and drop wisdom and perspective following the Jobg8 conference. Put on your big-boy pants and...
35 min
1546
With special guest Bill Fanning: Are you embrac...
Where’s Cheese? Chad brings recruiting industry veteran and America’s Job Exchange GM Bill Fanning to the mic while Joel takes a much-needed vacation. Chad takes aim at Bill with questions like – What the Hell is going on in this crazy AI/Google...
35 min
1547
Live from Jobg8 Job Board Summit in New Orleans...
The boys headed down the The Big Easy this week for a live podcast at the Jobg8 Job Board Summit. As usual, they weren’t so “easy” with the commentary on CareerBuilder, who is valued at $500 million, instead of the $1 billion-plus price tag...
28 min
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McDonald’s Goes All-In on Snapchat | Amazon Wan...
What started out as a slow week certainly turned up as time passed. Entelo received $20 million in funding, and the boys discuss what’s really behind all the money flowing into A.I. Can you say “land grab”? Amazon, yes, that Amazon is rumored to...
39 min
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Workey and Clustree Get Paid | TaskRabbit Grows...
It was a busy week. Economic megatrends continue to take hold. There are more job openings than ever before, and that has invigorated the gig economy and put recruiters in a strong sellers market for many positions. TaskRabbit, where anyone who will...
36 min
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Live from TA Tech Summit – All Things Google fo...
The boys were at  in Minneapolis June 1, and did a live broadcast on all things Google … we’re talkin’ Google Cloud Jobs API, Google Hire and Google for Jobs. They even discussed ideas for what the future might look like. Special...
28 min