The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Interview: Candidate.Guru on Elevated Careers A...
The guys have given eHarmony’s Elevated Careers a hard time from the first podcast. With the belief that candidate matching is more pixie dust and unicorns than real science and a commercially viable product, both Chad and Cheese couldn’t imagine...
25 min
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Google Hire is Killing ATSs, Skype is Killing V...
The first show to follow Labor Day weekend finds the guys especially salty and feisty. They start the show with a rant about Dice that follows up one of their best interviews of the year. Then they bring it down a bit with some news from the pizza...
42 min
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Live from PracticeLink
This week, the boys broadcasted live from Hinton, West Virginia at ‘s annual corporate event. We had a great time and loved visiting West Virginia and soaking up a little southern hospitality. Much love. We covered our recent interview with...
48 min
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Interview with Dice’s CEO
The boys were really excited to recently chat with Dice’s CEO, Mike Durney. As listeners will know, DHI, Dice’s parent, has been through an interesting year that saw the company look at strategic options for the business (a fancy way of saying,...
40 min
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Interview – Mark Weidick of hiQ Labs and the Ca...
One of the hottest stories in recruitment right now is the legal battle between hiQ and LinkedIn. If you’re not familiar with the case, :   A federal judge issued a huge setback for LinkedIn on Monday, ruling that LinkedIn can’t block...
23 min
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Firing Squad – Vervoe
Startup Vervoe faces the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad. Firing Squad is a podcast which allows a startup company to either showcase their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s a Shark Tank-like podcast with 37 pieces of...
34 min
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eHarmony’s Elevated Careers Finally Finds a Mat...
Lots going on this week. Dog days of summer be damned. EHarmony’s Elevated Careers found a buyer in this company and a little crow has to be eaten. Is it a match made in matching heaven? We’ll see. HiQ gets a ‘W’ against the big, bad LinkedIn,...
39 min
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HR is the New PR | Ladders Gets Its TMZ On | Is...
Another big week. The boys cover a grassroots campaign by HiQ to fight-off LinkedIn. Are you in? Indeed has gone shopping, acquiring Interviewed and taking the company into ATS territory. Can Indeed build a platform to take on Google, LinkedIn and...
42 min
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LinkedIn is Out for Blood, Indeed is Dining Out...
The summer of love rolls on, boys and girls. This week, LinkedIn is out for blood, Dice hits rock bottom and there ain’t no party like a microchipping your employee party. But first, the state of Wisconsin is losing its mind or maybe overindulging...
37 min
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CareerBuilder Gets a Divorce | Employers are Mi...
Giddyup kids! Episode 19 is in the books. Chad and Cheese are hot on Google Hire’s exploding interest and latest product demo. Chad breaks it down like a math problem. CareerBuilder’s 15 year marriage to Gannett ended in divorce this week....
30 min
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Google Hire Officially Launches, Indeed and Lin...
The boys are back after the 4th holiday and Chad trekking to Oregon for college visitations. And it’s a good thing, because the news was hot-and-heavy this week. Google Hire officially launched. Are the guys impressed or not? Indeed and LinkedIn...
40 min
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Talking Millennials, Employment Brand and Emplo...
This week, we deliver an interview with the CEO of Wonderlic, Charlie Wonderlic. Football fans will recognize the Wonderlic name for the assessment tests they provide for the NFL during the combine.
34 min
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Jumping into Indeed’s Walled Garden Against Goo...
Still a little hungover from the 4th of July holiday, the boys dive into Indeed’s walled garden against Google, wonder if old school job board SEO is dead and drop wisdom and perspective following the Jobg8 conference. Put on your big-boy pants and...
35 min
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With special guest Bill Fanning: Are you embrac...
Where’s Cheese? Chad brings recruiting industry veteran and America’s Job Exchange GM Bill Fanning to the mic while Joel takes a much-needed vacation. Chad takes aim at Bill with questions like – What the Hell is going on in this crazy AI/Google...
35 min
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Live from Jobg8 Job Board Summit in New Orleans...
The boys headed down the The Big Easy this week for a live podcast at the Jobg8 Job Board Summit. As usual, they weren’t so “easy” with the commentary on CareerBuilder, who is valued at $500 million, instead of the $1 billion-plus price tag...
28 min
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McDonald’s Goes All-In on Snapchat | Amazon Wan...
What started out as a slow week certainly turned up as time passed. Entelo received $20 million in funding, and the boys discuss what’s really behind all the money flowing into A.I. Can you say “land grab”? Amazon, yes, that Amazon is rumored to...
39 min
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Workey and Clustree Get Paid | TaskRabbit Grows...
It was a busy week. Economic megatrends continue to take hold. There are more job openings than ever before, and that has invigorated the gig economy and put recruiters in a strong sellers market for many positions. TaskRabbit, where anyone who will...
36 min
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Live from TA Tech Summit – All Things Google fo...
The boys were at  in Minneapolis June 1, and did a live broadcast on all things Google … we’re talkin’ Google Cloud Jobs API, Google Hire and Google for Jobs. They even discussed ideas for what the future might look like. Special...
28 min
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CareerBuilder Gets a Haircut | Snapchatting Get...
This week, the boys discuss a big discount in the acquisition price tag for CareerBuilder based on a Reuters report. Someone actually got a job opportunity, compliments of Snapchat.
36 min
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Google for Jobs Launches ... What the Hell Does...
May 2017 and Google for Jobs Launches
43 min
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CareerBuilder’s Revenue Drop | Microsoft’s Work...
Happy Mother’s Day Edition! This week, the boys are scared sh!#less at Microsoft’s workplace-of-the-future, Google makes a virtual reality play and disagreement ensues about its relevancy to recruitment, startup Mya’s A.I. recruitment play gets...
37 min
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Google Testing Indeed-Killer, Dice Cuts Off Its...
It was a big week. We finally have visual proof that Google is testing an Indeed-style job search, Ladders looks like it wants to become an online newspaper, Dice is getting rid of these sites, 84 Lumber returns with new recruitment ads (follow-ups to...
39 min
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LinkedIn’s Future | Slack Eavesdropping | Vervo...
This week, the boy wonders discuss LinkedIn’s ongoing ubiquity in news and finally catching up to Facebook and Twitter on this one key offering, eavesdropping on employees and gauging morale via Slack, Hipchat and others, more end of the...
39 min
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DICE | Snapchat’s ‘Snapplications’ | LinkedIn |...
This week, the boys discuss how no one apparently wants to buy DICE and its portfolio of sites and what it could mean for CareerBuilder’s reported sale. Snapchat is in the news again with “Snapplications,” a way McDonald’s is generating...
35 min
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Google Jobs API | Glassdoor Court Case | Beamer...
On Episode 6, the boys bookend the episode with Google, starting a discussion about the Google Jobs API and ending with the news this week that Google Hire is set to turn the ATS market upside down … and maybe the job search market too. Glassdoor...
36 min