The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Onsite Interview with Text Recruiting Startup C...
A  Exclusive in partnership with , the boys are onsite to interview , CEO of , a text messaging recruiting tool. In addition to covering a wide array of topics, including the power of SMS, the benefits or building a deep data...
45 min
1452
Indeed is Sneaky as Hell & Ripple Hopes to Topp...
This week, Indeed is quietly making some big changes for users, a new report says recruiters don’t give a damn about AI (yet) and there’s another mobile app hoping to take down LinkedIn (good luck with that Sparky). It’s a barrel full of...
40 min
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Firing Squad – HoneIt
, CEO at  not only faces the Firing Squad, but the prospect of a real fire during our recording session. Things can get a little hectic when Chad & Cheese take the mic. Will Nick stand in the pocket, take his licks and score a BIG...
30 min
1454
iCIMS Buys a Trojan Horse
On this week’s episode, iCIMS buys a Trojan horse, Walmart adds a little sugar to make the layoff medicine go down and hiQ gets some good news regarding its epic battle with LinkedIn. You don’t want to miss a second, but if you do, we can still be...
44 min
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Tale of Two Strategies: Google’s Inclusion & In...
The holidays are over, and business is business. The boys are back at it this week, pulling no punches … just like you like it. Believe it or not, in addition to talking Google, Indeed and others, Monster (remember them?) get mad airtime. Here’s a...
34 min
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2018 Predictions
A  Exclusive in partnership with , the boys enlist help from industry expert  to come up with predictions for 2018. Featured are Glassdoor, Monster, CareerBuilder, Slack, and much, much more. There’s even a prediction for...
47 min
1457
Here’s Our Naughty & Nice Lists for 2017
We’ve made a list. We’ve checked it twice. And here’s our list of who’s been naughty and who’s been nice this year. It’s the perfect combination of sweet-and-sour for you to enjoy with a stout eggnog and pudding made of fig. Special...
41 min
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Indeed Comes Clean, ZipRecruiter Is On The Hunt...
Come all ye’ faithful if you seek all the latest news and commentary from the world of recruitment. This week the boys take on Indeed, ZipRecruiter and crappy job descriptions. It’s not personal, it’s just Chad & Cheese, HR’s most...
43 min
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‘Tis the Season: Stockings Full of Coal, Layoff...
The boys are deckin’ the halls and wreckin’ the pod with a slew of industry news. Turns out, the holidays are a great time to pass out pink slips and head to court. Feel the cheer! On this week’s show, Chad & Cheese talk about the following:...
37 min
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Talkin’ hiQ vs. LinkedIn with Mark Weidick, CEO...
It’s a  EXCLUSIVE The  where we’re diving headlong into the hiQ versus LinkedIn court battle starring and interview with CEO of hiQ Labs, Mark Weidick. It’s also a lactose-free event – Joel Cheesman (Cheese) is out on...
33 min
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Giving Thanks and Roasting the Recruiting Indus...
On this Thanksgiving edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys have some mad shoutouts, especially for tweeting fans and feisty Indeed employees. Big fun. Then, like a finely balanced plate of meat and potatoes, the guys go through their Top...
38 min
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FIRING SQUAD: Jeff Dolan, SVP of Growth at Flas...
Jeff Dolan walks in, sits down, and takes his chances by pitching FlashRecruit to The Chad and Cheese Podcast with the possibility of facing disgrace and the Firing Squad.
31 min
1463
Google Sticks It To Indeed (Again) and Anonymit...
It’s the holiday season, but the recruitment news rages on. The boys cover a variety of topics this week, including: Google for Jobs unveils four new features, and one is particularly brutal for Indeed. Glassdoor goes to court and is ordered to...
50 min
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Talkin’ Vet Recruiting, LinkedIn’s Leapfrogging...
The boys recorded this week’s show on Veteran’s Day in the U.S., so vet recruiting is top-of-mind. Considering Chad is an Army Vet, how could it not? CareerBuilder is partnering with this vet site, and rumors that Monster is making changes to...
38 min
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‘Edu-taining’ Interview with Susan Vitale, CMO ...
In this  exclusive, in partnership with ,  bring industry veteran , CMO at , on to discuss iCIMS’ recent job seeker survey, and any other timely topic they want. Included is a deep dive into employment branding...
38 min
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Can We Just Stop with the ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and...
Halloween’s hangover has the boys ranting about some trends that just won’t die: ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and video resumes. Startups Workey and O’Hire go keep going back to the future and treading where past companies have failed, and it’s got...
27 min
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Firing Squad – Crowded.com
On this Halloween edition of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, Chad and Joel welcome Howie Schwartz, CEO of Crowded to the Firing Squad. Howie believes Crowded Refresh will be a big treat because it can bring old and dead candidates back to life. That’s...
35 min
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Tech Killing Fields – Can Recruiters Survive? |...
Chad enlists Tim Sackett – from The Tim Sackett Project at  – to fill in while Joel sits on the beach, sipping margarita’s while wearing a speedo. (Try and get that picture out of your brainpan) Anyways.. In this episode Chad and Tim...
50 min
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Job Board Founder Has a Date with Prison | Goog...
Welcome to another episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast. This week the boys are coming at you on a Sunday morning (more on that in the podcast), which means they still may be a little drunk from Saturday. On this week’s episode, a job board owner...
49 min
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The Race for Recruiting Chatbot Glory Heats Up ...
What’s up, party people? On this week’s podcast, the plot between HiQ and LinkedIn thickens, the race to recruiting chatbot glory continues and maybe Microsoft’s ATS sucks more than we thought. “… imagine if a company that you’ve...
48 min
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Drinkin’ the LinkedIn Kool-Aid while Furniture ...
What a week. LinkedIn’s annual event took place in Nashville, Tennessee and it was an opportunity for them to drop a big ol’ poop sandwich in the lunch boxes of job boards and ATSs everywhere. Listen to learn why. And speaking of ATSs, Chad thinks...
38 min
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LinkedIn’s Jeff Weiner Keynoting Talent Connect...
LinkedIn’s CEO from Talent Connect 2017 discussing the state of the company. Raw and unedited.
22 min
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Newspaper Partnerships are Cool Again, Indeed G...
On this week’s edition of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, the boys are getting geared up for their LIVE Podcast in Denver next week at the TATech conference. Speaking of Denver what’s the deal with all of these Cannabis Jobs? Nearly 150,000...
41 min
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Firing Squad: GoodTime.io
Goodtime.io’s CEO, Ahryun Moon stares down the barrel of the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad podcast. Firing Squad is a raw podcast focused on allowing recruitment industry startup companies to strut their technology, products, and solutions or just...
26 min
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Chad Throws Shade at ZipRecruiter, Crowded Brin...
As we hit the midpoint of September, the news stories are flowing fast, so the boys cover a lot of ground this week. First, Chad goes off on ZipRecruiter, Mayweather-style, dissing their loose definition of “integration,” among other things. Women...
48 min