The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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1401
Baby Bathrobes
Searching it hard. You have to type words and push Enter. Nobody has time for that, which must be the reason why Facebook and Google are making life more tolerable for recruiters by just serving up perfect candidates without all that searchings stuff....
54 min
1402
Google is Dropping Bombs!
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by The Judge Group… Who is this Judge Group I keep hearing about? Well, Judge has over 48 years of experience and success in...
4 min
1403
Facebook, Google Prepare to Play Matchmaker
Hey kids, it’s The Shred for July 27, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Whether you’re moving your systems to the cloud, building out a team for your next project, finding healthcare talent for your organization, filling that mission critical...
2 min
1404
Your Job Description Sucks! w/ Elena Valentine,...
Video is HUGE! Employer Brand is HUGE! Candidate Experience is HUGE!
28 min
1405
Interview: Joe Shaker Jr., President of Shaker ...
It took over a year to convince , president of  to be a guest on The Chad & Cheese Podcast, but he acquiesced. The state of the recruitment ad agency is as interesting as it’s ever been. From newspapers to job boards to branding...
33 min
1406
Snag Ousts CEO — MSFT Targets Slack
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash The Shred is brought to you by The Judge Group… What exactly is The Judge Group, well Judge has over 48 years of experience and success in recruiting talent...
3 min
1407
Text Recruiting Wars Heat-Up
The boys discuss updates on the text recruiting wars, featuring the likes of Jobvite, TextRecruit, iCIMS, Canvas and Emissary. Plus, Chad talks “shortage,” acquisitions by Ultimate Software and Slack, and, of course, what episode would be complete...
41 min
1408
Ultimate Software, Slack Make Acquisitions
Hey boys and girls, it’s The Shred for July 18, 2018, brought to you by Judge.com. Whether you’re moving your systems to the cloud, building out a team for your next project, finding healthcare talent for your organization, filling that mission...
2 min
1409
Following the Money in HR Tech
The boys breakdown the who, what, why and how of all the investment money flowing into recruitment technology startups with industry analyst . This podcast is an exclusive from .
27 min
1410
Greenhouse rakes in $50m
It’s The Shred – a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News — This is Chad Sowash Greenhouse ATS and Recruiting Software scored $50 million in Series D funding from Riverwood Capital. What the Hell are they going to do with that kinda cash?...
3 min
1411
Shaker Shakes Things Up
The boys are back after a July 4th break and there’s a lot to cover. Shaker Recruitment Marketing makes an acquisition, Google embraces the Union Jack, voice assistants go commercial, CareerBuilder continues to burn and lots more. Enjoy, and give...
41 min
1412
Bleeding at CareerBuilder Continues
The bleeding over at CareerBuilder continues. Multiple sources are informing us that three more executives are gone. It’s a mix of terminations and just getting the hell off the Titanic.
2 min
1413
Firing Squad: AllyO
 touts itself as an end-to-end solution for recruitment. But if you think it’s just another chatbot waiting to board the commoditization train, well, you might be right. Or wrong. You’ll have to listen to see if this start-up cuts the mustard...
34 min
1414
Interview: Groupon’s James Ellis
On a slow week that saw us celebrating America’s birthday, the boys are taking a break from the weekly rundown and chatting with Groupon’s head of global employment brand, . Chad cornered the poor guy at a recent conference and dug into a...
46 min
1415
The Shred: July 5 News — Google
The Chad & Cheese Podcast brings introduces THE SHRED — breaking Recruitment Industry News   Topics Google for Jobs rumored to be launching soon in the UK The Arland Group ACQUIRED by Shaker Recruitment Marketing   —...
4 min
1416
Down Goes Slack!
Chad’s back! And he’s probably sporting a beret this week as the boys are talkin’ LinkedIn’s foray into the SMB market, on-demand worker platforms boom and Slack going down (ensue internet meltdown). Your ears will thank you. Enjoy, and...
42 min
1417
Snagajob Rumors
This week, Google keeps googling, Juju (who? who?) pulls the ripcord and rumors are swirling around Snag.co (better known as Snagajob). And the funding keeps flowing. Enjoy and show our sponsors some love: America’s Job Exchange, Sovren and JobAdX.
26 min
1418
Interview: Anoop Gupta, SeekOut CEO
It’s not everyday you get to talk to someone who was a direct report to Bill Gates, but Chad & Cheese have done it. Meet Anoop Gupta, co-founder and CEO of  and Microsoft veteran. This is a  exclusive.
32 min
1419
Microsoft Buys GitHub
With Chad in Europe for the next 3 weeks, Cheese pulls a Lionel Richie and goes solo, talkin’ news and opinion on Microsoft’s acquisition of GitHub. Who are the winner and losers? Additionally, Facebook and LinkedIn are in the news with new tools...
35 min
1420
Huh? Indeed Buys Resume.com
Indeed keeps building-up that moat against Google, but the latest acquisition of Resume.com has the boys shaking their heads. Plus Dice still has a pulse, Walmart is sending the blue vests to college and ZipRecruiter flexes. Enjoy, and show sponsors...
41 min
1421
Money, Money, Money … and Millennials
If you thought an upcoming holiday weekend would mean a slow week in the recruiting industry, then you’re gravely mistaken, kiddies. Chad & Cheese bring da noise and da funk on a episode featuring Phenom People, Vervoe, Job.com, Indeed, and...
47 min
1422
Firing Squad: HireVisor
Startup  faces the firing squad. Will their warm-and-fuzzy, sharing-is-caring business model pass the test? Gotta listen to this  exclusive if you want to find out.
31 min
1423
Interview w/ Colin Day, CEO at iCIMS – An Uncom...
, founder, chairman and CEO at popular ATS  doesn’t pull any punches. He’s more than happy to give his honest opinion on everything from Indeed’s future to Google’s reign to ‘Freemium’ ATS providers. And Chad and Cheese are more...
43 min
1424
Uncommon.co Demo
The boys checkout ‘s product demo. And there’s beer too. Enjoy.
41 min
1425
Indeed Embraces Its Inner Glassdoor
Indeed had its annual event this week. News and opinion from the show highlight this week’s episode. Also, Google for Jobs referral traffic numbers are coming out, .jobs is .gone for Direct Employers Association and Starbucks is a real shit-show,...
45 min