The Chad & Cheese Podcast
Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.
1401
Here’s Our Naughty & Nice Lists for 2017
We’ve made a list. We’ve checked it twice. And here’s our list of who’s been naughty and who’s been nice this year. It’s the perfect combination of sweet-and-sour for you to enjoy with a stout eggnog and pudding made of fig. Special...
41 min
1402
Indeed Comes Clean, ZipRecruiter Is On The Hunt...
Come all ye’ faithful if you seek all the latest news and commentary from the world of recruitment. This week the boys take on Indeed, ZipRecruiter and crappy job descriptions. It’s not personal, it’s just Chad & Cheese, HR’s most...
43 min
1403
‘Tis the Season: Stockings Full of Coal, Layoff...
The boys are deckin’ the halls and wreckin’ the pod with a slew of industry news. Turns out, the holidays are a great time to pass out pink slips and head to court. Feel the cheer! On this week’s show, Chad & Cheese talk about the following:...
37 min
1404
Talkin’ hiQ vs. LinkedIn with Mark Weidick, CEO...
It’s a EXCLUSIVE The where we’re diving headlong into the hiQ versus LinkedIn court battle starring and interview with CEO of hiQ Labs, Mark Weidick. It’s also a lactose-free event – Joel Cheesman (Cheese) is out on...
33 min
1405
Giving Thanks and Roasting the Recruiting Indus...
On this Thanksgiving edition of The Chad & Cheese Podcast, the boys have some mad shoutouts, especially for tweeting fans and feisty Indeed employees. Big fun. Then, like a finely balanced plate of meat and potatoes, the guys go through their Top...
38 min
1406
FIRING SQUAD: Jeff Dolan, SVP of Growth at Flas...
Jeff Dolan walks in, sits down, and takes his chances by pitching FlashRecruit to The Chad and Cheese Podcast with the possibility of facing disgrace and the Firing Squad.
31 min
1407
Google Sticks It To Indeed (Again) and Anonymit...
It’s the holiday season, but the recruitment news rages on. The boys cover a variety of topics this week, including: Google for Jobs unveils four new features, and one is particularly brutal for Indeed. Glassdoor goes to court and is ordered to...
50 min
1408
Talkin’ Vet Recruiting, LinkedIn’s Leapfrogging...
The boys recorded this week’s show on Veteran’s Day in the U.S., so vet recruiting is top-of-mind. Considering Chad is an Army Vet, how could it not? CareerBuilder is partnering with this vet site, and rumors that Monster is making changes to...
38 min
1409
‘Edu-taining’ Interview with Susan Vitale, CMO ...
In this exclusive, in partnership with , bring industry veteran , CMO at , on to discuss iCIMS’ recent job seeker survey, and any other timely topic they want. Included is a deep dive into employment branding...
38 min
1410
Can We Just Stop with the ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and...
Halloween’s hangover has the boys ranting about some trends that just won’t die: ‘Tinder for Jobs’ and video resumes. Startups Workey and O’Hire go keep going back to the future and treading where past companies have failed, and it’s got...
27 min
1411
Firing Squad – Crowded.com
On this Halloween edition of The Chad and Cheese Podcast, Chad and Joel welcome Howie Schwartz, CEO of Crowded to the Firing Squad. Howie believes Crowded Refresh will be a big treat because it can bring old and dead candidates back to life. That’s...
35 min
1412
Tech Killing Fields – Can Recruiters Survive? |...
Chad enlists Tim Sackett – from The Tim Sackett Project at – to fill in while Joel sits on the beach, sipping margarita’s while wearing a speedo. (Try and get that picture out of your brainpan) Anyways.. In this episode Chad and Tim...
50 min
1413
Job Board Founder Has a Date with Prison | Goog...
Welcome to another episode of The Chad and Cheese Podcast. This week the boys are coming at you on a Sunday morning (more on that in the podcast), which means they still may be a little drunk from Saturday. On this week’s episode, a job board owner...
49 min
1414
The Race for Recruiting Chatbot Glory Heats Up ...
What’s up, party people? On this week’s podcast, the plot between HiQ and LinkedIn thickens, the race to recruiting chatbot glory continues and maybe Microsoft’s ATS sucks more than we thought. “… imagine if a company that you’ve...
48 min
1415
Drinkin’ the LinkedIn Kool-Aid while Furniture ...
What a week. LinkedIn’s annual event took place in Nashville, Tennessee and it was an opportunity for them to drop a big ol’ poop sandwich in the lunch boxes of job boards and ATSs everywhere. Listen to learn why. And speaking of ATSs, Chad thinks...
38 min
1416
LinkedIn’s Jeff Weiner Keynoting Talent Connect...
LinkedIn’s CEO from Talent Connect 2017 discussing the state of the company. Raw and unedited.
22 min
1417
Newspaper Partnerships are Cool Again, Indeed G...
On this week’s edition of HR’s Most Dangerous Podcast, the boys are getting geared up for their LIVE Podcast in Denver next week at the TATech conference. Speaking of Denver what’s the deal with all of these Cannabis Jobs? Nearly 150,000...
41 min
1418
Firing Squad: GoodTime.io
Goodtime.io’s CEO, Ahryun Moon stares down the barrel of the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad podcast. Firing Squad is a raw podcast focused on allowing recruitment industry startup companies to strut their technology, products, and solutions or just...
26 min
1419
Chad Throws Shade at ZipRecruiter, Crowded Brin...
As we hit the midpoint of September, the news stories are flowing fast, so the boys cover a lot of ground this week. First, Chad goes off on ZipRecruiter, Mayweather-style, dissing their loose definition of “integration,” among other things. Women...
48 min
1420
Interview: Candidate.Guru on Elevated Careers A...
The guys have given eHarmony’s Elevated Careers a hard time from the first podcast. With the belief that candidate matching is more pixie dust and unicorns than real science and a commercially viable product, both Chad and Cheese couldn’t imagine...
25 min
1421
Google Hire is Killing ATSs, Skype is Killing V...
The first show to follow Labor Day weekend finds the guys especially salty and feisty. They start the show with a rant about Dice that follows up one of their best interviews of the year. Then they bring it down a bit with some news from the pizza...
42 min
1422
Live from PracticeLink
This week, the boys broadcasted live from Hinton, West Virginia at ‘s annual corporate event. We had a great time and loved visiting West Virginia and soaking up a little southern hospitality. Much love. We covered our recent interview with...
48 min
1423
Interview with Dice’s CEO
The boys were really excited to recently chat with Dice’s CEO, Mike Durney. As listeners will know, DHI, Dice’s parent, has been through an interesting year that saw the company look at strategic options for the business (a fancy way of saying,...
40 min
1424
Interview – Mark Weidick of hiQ Labs and the Ca...
One of the hottest stories in recruitment right now is the legal battle between hiQ and LinkedIn. If you’re not familiar with the case, : A federal judge issued a huge setback for LinkedIn on Monday, ruling that LinkedIn can’t block...
23 min
1425
Firing Squad – Vervoe
Startup Vervoe faces the Chad and Cheese Firing Squad. Firing Squad is a podcast which allows a startup company to either showcase their technology, products, and solutions or just fail miserably. It’s a Shark Tank-like podcast with 37 pieces of...
34 min