The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Gerry Tales IV (Gerrymandering)
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part IV of our interview on all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.
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Recruiter Marketplace: Scout w/ CEO Ken Lazarus
One of the biggest stories from 2018 was recruiting software solution Scout getting $100 million in investment. The company is quietly becoming a force, so the boys decided to sit down with CEO Ken Lazarus to find out what’s going on. Enjoy this Un
34 min
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What Can Two White Dudes Do About Diversity?
Part of our interview with Torin Ellis. Full video interview coming soon.
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‘Job Board Summer Camp’ Sucks
It’s been a week since tearin’ shit up in London, and the boys are psyched to get back to the weekly round-up show. And the hits just keep on rollin’. This week, programmatic remains hot, Amazon says ‘there’s nothing to see
43 min
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Firing Squad: StaffUpApp
Do staffing firms need a native app for iPhones and Android devices? This startup certainly thinks so, but do the boys agree? Let’s just say it’s a house divided. Ready. Aim. Listen. And enjoy this Talroo exclusive.
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The Chad & Cheese Recfest 2019 ‘Hype Video’
Before going on stage at Recfest 2019, this happened. ‘Murica! Special thanks to Talent Nexus for creating.
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TMP Acquires Perengo
Its The Shred - a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash On to the NEWS for July 16st 2019.. THE ARMS RACE IS RED HOT We were talking about texting and chatbots - Now its a word most TA professionals cant even spell... Prog
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Indeed.com Strikes Back
When Stepstone acquired Appcast, the boys wondered why Indeed failed to snatch-up programmatic’s most well-known and successful companies. Maybe Indeed wasn’t even interested. Turns out, they were, as proven by the recent announcement that th
45 min
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Gerry Tales III (Beyond Thunderdome)
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part III of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Nexxt some love.
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We Love the Smell of Acquisitions in the Morning
The week of July 4th is usually pretty slow, but there were plenty of fireworks this year. Aside from a big acquisition, Facebook, Walmart and Hallmark are in the news, as well as a segment on rainbow-colored flags and the companies that say they support
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Recfest 2019: British / U.S. Relations are Head...
With Recfest 2019 a little over a week away in London, what better way for Chad & Cheese to pregame than to get the show’s masterminds, Jamie Leonard and Joe Slavin? The boys breakdown the show and give listeners a sneak-peek into the havoc tha
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Gerry Tales II (Electric Boogaloo)
Gerry Tales with industry icon Gerry Crispin was off-the-chain, and this is Part II of our interview all-things-recruiting. Enjoy, get smarter and show exclusive sponsor Uncommon some love.
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Appcast Acquired by Stepstone
Its The Shred - a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash On to the NEWS for July 1st 2019.. The Deutschland powerhouse Stepstone acquires programmatic job distribution darling Appcast. You heard it here on Chad & Chee
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‘Jibe’ Turkeys & Slack Smackdowns
If you missed the news breakdown from last week, you’re in for a treat this week. The boys breakdown a bevy of news, including iCIMS buying Jibe, another chatbot domino falling, rumors out of CareerBuilder, Entelo and Salesforce, and new headwinds
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Firing Squad: Job.com
An old URL with a lot of new ideas – including blockchain, paying job seekers and a credit card (yes, credit card) – but we’ll see how the company does against 40 years of industry experience. Chad & Cheese run Job.com CEO Arran Ste
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Gerry Tales w/ Gerry Crispin
Gerry Crispin is an industry treasure and a virtual encyclopedia for anyone who wants to take a look back at how things used to be, as well as getting an historical perspective on the present and the future. Chad & Cheese chatted with Gerry and it tu
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Live from Smashfly’s Transform Conference
The boys cover just about everything with Smashfly’s Josh Zywien, Delta Airlines’ Holland McCue and Fiserv’s Julia Levy. Enjoy this live show from Boston and throw our sponsors – Sovren, JobAdx and Canvas – lots of love.
45 min
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THE SHRED – Returnships
THE SHRED – Don’t Call It a Comeback! They’ve been here for years. Here’s a bit of news from the political blog – Roll Call. “A pair of Democratic senators introduced legislation Thursday that would offer subsidies to employers who hire longt
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THE SHRED — Facebook That’s Just Nasty
The Absolutely Horrible, Disgusting and Inexcusable Working Conditions at Facebook Facebook moderators are the cops of the social network. They patrol its cyberspace for things like hate speech, murders in livestream, child pornography and anything else
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Tag-Teaming ‘Recruiting Future’ Podcaster Matt ...
Three podcasters – one British, two American – get together and talk recruitment. Lock the doors, hide ya’ kids and serve-up the tea and crumpets. Enjoy this cross-Atlantic crossover.
34 min
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Talkin’ ‘Bad Touch’ with Nexxt’s Andy Katz
What do you get when you bring 65 years of industry experience under one podcast? Press play and find out, as the boys chat with Nexxt’s 25-year veteran Andy Katz. There will be beer on this Nexxt exclusive.
32 min
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iCIMS Latest Acquisition Keeps Recruitment Plat...
Popular ATS has added a new toy to the arsenal. Listen now.
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… And You Will Know CareerBuilder By The Trail ...
Another week of breaking news highlights this week’s show. More bleeding at CareerBuilder as the C-suite loses another one, Job.com readies for an IPO and a new partnership, and the boys go rapid fire with more alerts. Enjoy and show Sovren, JobAdx
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Live from RECex in Europe
If you thought you’d heard everything from the Chad & Cheese European Tour in Lisbon for TAtech, well, think again. Here’s their session on A.I. from RECex. Enjoy this Uncommon exclusive.
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#AI Interview Regulations PASSED!
HR TECH SHOULD WORRY ABOUT “THE AI VIDEO INTERVEW ACT” Housebill 2557 is now an ACT. Housebill 2557 was passed May 29th by the Illinois House of Representatives and it sailed through the Illinois Senate without anyone voting – no. That kind of unani
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