The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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1201
Chad & Cheese Get Interviewed in Lisbon
Stephen O’Donnell of VideoMyJob sat down with the boys in Lisbon at the TAtech conference. Enjoy.
13 min
1202
Exploring the Recruitment Tech Hype Cycle w/ AI...
Chatbots, messaging, programmatic advertising … even QR codes. They have their place on the recruitment hype cycle. The boys sit down with VP, Digital Marketing Solutions – Employer Brand at AIA, Nathan Perrot, to explore the hype cycle. Enjo
33 min
1203
HR Learns AI: Digging Into The 5-Week Online Co...
Did you know there’s a five-week online course where HR pros can learn how to use Artificial Intelligence (AI) to re-imagine the employee experience? Well, there is, and Jeanne Meister is the brains behind this offering from SHRM. Enjoy this Jobcas
22 min
1204
Interview: Tengai, Sweden’s Recruiting Robot
Few things have caused as much buzz this year as Tengai Unbiased, the recruiting robot from a company in Sweden that has garnered responses from creeped-out to amazement. The boys decided to find out for themselves and interview the team – and the
36 min
1205
“98% Of Sourcing Should Be Automated”
Social Talent’s Johnny Campbell is never one to pull punches, and this interview with him at SHRM Talent showcases his brutal honesty. Enjoy this Jobcase exclusive.
30 min
1206
Help Wanted: ‘Preferably Caucasian’ Candidates
What a week! Jobvite has a new CEO, Ladders exposes 13 million resumes to evil-doers, Google targets the Enterprise, Facebook gets integrated wit’ it, and racism is alive-and-well at a job board near you. Enjoy, and show our sponsors some love: Sov
41 min
1207
Jobvite Has a New CEO
Dan Finnigan is hanging it up after more than a decade at Jobvite. Who’s taking the reigns? Gotta listen.
3 min
1208
Firing Squad: Maia
Maia – no, not that Mya, the chatbot – brings its game to the Firing Squad. With a founder who cut his teeth at Indeed, Jobcase and The Muse, it’s bound to get interesting. Enjoy this Talroo exclusive.
30 min
1209
Google ATS Goes Enterprise
Its The Shred - a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash On to the NEWS for April 30 2019.. HOLY SHIT were talking about another Google move again... No this isnt a brick-by-brick move ohh no this is a major move and announc
3 min
1210
Demopocalypse: VideoMyJob
An Aussie, a Scot and two Americans get together for a demo of one of the hottest video solutions in recruiting. Grab a Foster’s and enjoy.
36 min
1211
Live from Hireology HQ
Chad & Cheese recently invaded Hireology HQ in Chicago to be guests on their podcast, The Best Team Wins. This is what came out of it. Enjoy.
28 min
1212
Damn, Monster’s New Commercials Suck!
Let’s just come out firing: Monster’s new commercials aren’t that great. Think dusting off some ads from 2004 that didn’t make the cut then and certainly shouldn’t now. Plus, LinkedIn’s pricing increases, Google’
44 min
1213
Zip vs. Indeed – Appcast rankings
Its The Shred - a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash Its the 2019 Appcast Publisher Ratings by Function What is that you might say? Simple - it says right here on the cover Job ad publisher performance based on lowest co
2 min
1214
JobAdx’s New Ad
Suckin’ up like a boss.
1 min
1215
Dynamic Video Ad Units
Chad & Cheese sponsor JobAdx shared some news with us at StaffingTec. Want to know what it is? Gotta listen. Enjoy this Jobcase exclusive.
19 min
1216
Google Builds Brick By Brick
Its The Shred - a mini-Chad and Cheese bite of Breaking News -- This is Chad Sowash On to the NEWS for April 24 2019.. Now, this is going to start out slow, so stick with me... Googles newest feature drop is Work from Home job search available in Go
2 min
1217
All Our Rowdy Friends
A chat with Katrina Kibben, Abby Cheesman and Dawn Burke at the SHRM Talent Conference. What else do you want from us? Enjoy this Jobcase exclusive.
45 min
1218
All-Star Panel, Live From TAtech in Chicago
It’s on! Some of the industry’s most respected folks joined the boson stage for some good ol’ fashioned verbal jousting. The lineup included Joe Shaker of Shaker Recruitment Marketing, Thom Kenney of Smashfly, Abby Cheesman of SkillScou
45 min
1219
Interview: StaffingTec’s Maurice Fuller
Enjoy this Jobcase exclusive with StaffingTec’s Maurice Fuller, Staffing Technology and Blockchain Expert.
15 min
1220
SHRM Live: One Platform To Rule Them All
A Jobcase exclusive: In just the past few years, Goliaths like Google, Microsoft / LinkedIn and Facebook have entered the world of recruitment in a big way. Traditional vendors like Indeed, Monster and CareerBuilder are struggling to catch-up, keep-up an
23 min
1221
Post-Game: SHRM Talent, StaffingTec
News about Indeed, Rectxt, JazzHR and more.
41 min
1222
TikTok, Farting on Coworkers & DeskDogs
This episode is all over the place. The boys cover everything from ZipRecruiter’s CEO dissing Google, Indeed giving Hire by Google a sloppy kiss, TikTok landing on the proverbial radar and stinky Australians. And much, much more. Enjoy and give our
40 min
1223
Interview: Justin Gignac w/ Working Not Working
For those who think gig economy platforms like Upwork and Fiverr are a race to the bottom for freelance wages, then this podcast is for you. The boys interview Justin Gignac, co-founder at Working Not Working, a site dedicated to making sure freelance de
25 min
1224
Talking Like a Pirate
Behind the scenes at Talroo.
5 min
1225
Cheating College
Jim Stroud here, reporting for The Shred! A mini-Chad and Cheese bite of breaking news. No doubt you have heard about the college admissions scandal where federal officials have charged several members of the 1% in what the Justice Department is calling
4 min