The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

Business
Careers
Technology
1001
Fundraising Galore: Visage, Fetcher, Lattice
3 min
1002
Rick Rolled w/ Rick Carsley
Listeners will remember a red-hot interview Chad & Cheese did in 2020 with IKEA's Rick Carsley, and luckily for everyone, he's back on the podcast.
38 min
1003
Firing Squad: SponTea Coffee's Viktoria Sheyko
COVID has made online video incredibly popular in the workplace, but it's also made human connections harder to come by. And engaging with new people at work is almost impossible. Until...
26 min
1004
LinkedIn Job Boards Like It's 1999
Stick around in this industry long enough and you may see something like a mobile stock trading app called Robinhood acquire a staffing firm. Yeah, that really happened.
46 min
1005
Robinhood (Yes, *That* Robinhood) Acquires Staf...
3 min
1006
The State of Programmatic Job Ads
Performance-based ads have become a highly-adopted and powerful tool for Marketing departments throughout the world, and yet it hasn't in Recruitment Marketing. So, what is the state of programmatic job advertising in the recruitment world?
21 min
1007
Shakin' It Up w/ John Graham
For the most part, Corporate America sucks at Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Wait, you don't believe me? Look at the numbers for this nearly 60-year-old practice. In most organizations, today money is thrown at training, messaging, and an inability to match one's brand articulation with reality.
20 min
1008
Seekout, Jobandtalent Open The Vault
Mad investment dollars going into TA tech startups, international intrigue, recruiting robots in your pocket.
44 min
1009
Seekout Announces $65 Million Series B
3 min
1010
Can't Touch This w/ Albrey Brown
Straight outta Oaktown, the boys invite head of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion at Airtable, Albrey Brown, on the show and chat diversity recruiting, what a typical day in the life of a DE&I director looks like and even find time for MC Hammer jokes.
35 min
1011
Facebook Jobs Invasion
It's a lactose-free episode of The Chad & Cheese podcast with special guest, Canadian podcast superstar, Shelley Billinghurst of The Recruitment Flex.
45 min
1012
Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out.
Aside from being a summary of one of our podcasts, it's also a #1 Amazon Best Seller and one of nine books Entrepreneur Magazine says you have to read this year.
33 min
1013
Coming Clean w/ Arran Stewart
Job.com founder Arran Stewart has been busy making acquisitions - or at least promising acquisitions - since his company appeared on Death Match in Austin a few years ago.
31 min
1014
Recruitics Embraces The Stranger
This one's a real rush of blood to the head! Recruitics and Phenom are continuing the acquisition boom in our industry LinkedIn is looking to take on Fiverr and Upwork.
39 min
1015
Phenom Acquires Talentcube
3 min
1016
ATS Feature Hell w/ Lital Sherman
Maintaining a platform with decades of unused features, or multiple features providing the same end to a means, or a pile of feature dropdowns leading to a totally unusable system is leading indicators you possibly reside in "Feature Hell".
27 min
1017
Radio: Crap Rap by Caroo
HR and TA keep pumping out the hits!
2 min
1018
Moped Money w/ Torin Ellis
It's part 2 of our interview with Torin Ellis, DEI consultant, risk mitigator, and truth teller!
28 min
1019
Indeed's FUBAR UX
"Indeed gives zero fucks about employers!!!"
43 min
1020
Google Caves to Pressure from Down Under
3 min
1021
Entelo CRO Ejects
Did you really expect the wheels to stay on for long?
2 min
1022
Firing Squad: Caroo's Gareth Peterson
UK-based and focused Caroo has tickled the industry's funny bone recently. With a series of marketing strategies that have pushed the boundaries of good taste
34 min
1023
Exorcising Our Demons
If you can't handle truth tellin' this interview with Torin Ellis might be too much for you, although it is something we all need. Sit back, listen, tweet, and do whatever it takes to unload as we all disagree, yet try to find our way back to common ground.
20 min
1024
Paychex Squeezes Recruiting
With Valentine's Day going down this week, love is in the air and so is Barry White...
47 min
1025
To Check or Not To Check?
In this episode, the boys join Kim Jones, professor at UC Davis, and dig into the seedy underbelly of the business of background checks
31 min