The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

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Careers
Technology
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Top Talent Myth w/ Frida Polli
Frida Polli joins the boys on a quest for a better understanding of personality tests, matching of soft skills to job openings, and the threats that A.I. backlash has on businesses like hers.
38 min
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Sprint Recruiting w/ Trent Cotton
Ever heard the concepts behind sprint recruiting? Well, we've got the guy who wrote the book on the topic, super-recruiter Trent Cotton.
31 min
878
LinkedIn Da Club
The world is awakening from its pandemic-induced coma. What does that look like?
48 min
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Meet Indeed's New Smartypants CMO
3 min
880
Redefining HR w/ Lars Schmidt
Hot off the presses of his latest book, the boys dig into everything swimming around in Lars head at the moment.
27 min
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What's Your COVID Brand?
Just when you thought you had that whole employer brand game figured out, along comes a pandemic and tosses that EB playbook right out the window.
30 min
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LinkedIn We Have A Problem
There’s bad, there’s rotten and then there’s LinkedIn’s job board strategy. It’s like peeling an onion and the boys are almost in tears covering this story
46 min
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Fundraising Galore: Visage, Fetcher, Lattice
3 min
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Rick Rolled w/ Rick Carsley
Listeners will remember a red-hot interview Chad & Cheese did in 2020 with IKEA's Rick Carsley, and luckily for everyone, he's back on the podcast.
38 min
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Firing Squad: SponTea Coffee's Viktoria Sheyko
COVID has made online video incredibly popular in the workplace, but it's also made human connections harder to come by. And engaging with new people at work is almost impossible. Until...
26 min
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LinkedIn Job Boards Like It's 1999
Stick around in this industry long enough and you may see something like a mobile stock trading app called Robinhood acquire a staffing firm. Yeah, that really happened.
46 min
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Robinhood (Yes, *That* Robinhood) Acquires Staf...
3 min
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The State of Programmatic Job Ads
Performance-based ads have become a highly-adopted and powerful tool for Marketing departments throughout the world, and yet it hasn't in Recruitment Marketing. So, what is the state of programmatic job advertising in the recruitment world?
21 min
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Shakin' It Up w/ John Graham
For the most part, Corporate America sucks at Diversity, Equity, and Inclusion. Wait, you don't believe me? Look at the numbers for this nearly 60-year-old practice. In most organizations, today money is thrown at training, messaging, and an inability to match one's brand articulation with reality.
20 min
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Seekout, Jobandtalent Open The Vault
Mad investment dollars going into TA tech startups, international intrigue, recruiting robots in your pocket.
44 min
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Seekout Announces $65 Million Series B
3 min
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Can't Touch This w/ Albrey Brown
Straight outta Oaktown, the boys invite head of Diversity, Equity and Inclusion at Airtable, Albrey Brown, on the show and chat diversity recruiting, what a typical day in the life of a DE&I director looks like and even find time for MC Hammer jokes.
35 min
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Facebook Jobs Invasion
It's a lactose-free episode of The Chad & Cheese podcast with special guest, Canadian podcast superstar, Shelley Billinghurst of The Recruitment Flex.
45 min
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Move Fast. Break Shit. Burn Out.
Aside from being a summary of one of our podcasts, it's also a #1 Amazon Best Seller and one of nine books Entrepreneur Magazine says you have to read this year.
33 min
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Coming Clean w/ Arran Stewart
Job.com founder Arran Stewart has been busy making acquisitions - or at least promising acquisitions - since his company appeared on Death Match in Austin a few years ago.
31 min
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Recruitics Embraces The Stranger
This one's a real rush of blood to the head! Recruitics and Phenom are continuing the acquisition boom in our industry LinkedIn is looking to take on Fiverr and Upwork.
39 min
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Phenom Acquires Talentcube
3 min
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ATS Feature Hell w/ Lital Sherman
Maintaining a platform with decades of unused features, or multiple features providing the same end to a means, or a pile of feature dropdowns leading to a totally unusable system is leading indicators you possibly reside in "Feature Hell".
27 min
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Radio: Crap Rap by Caroo
HR and TA keep pumping out the hits!
2 min
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Moped Money w/ Torin Ellis
It's part 2 of our interview with Torin Ellis, DEI consultant, risk mitigator, and truth teller!
28 min