The Chad & Cheese Podcast

Everything people and workforce—recruiting, marketing, technology, talent management, and workforce economics—delivered with biting sarcasm and unapologetic snark. Industry misfits Chad Sowash and Joel Cheesman bring their no-holds-barred opinions to dissect news, trends, and the occasional dumpster fire. If you’re a hiring company, staffing firm, or vendor looking for insights (and a thick skin), these two won’t just tell you what’s happening—they’ll tell you why you’re probably doing it wrong. Buckle up, buttercup.

Business
Careers
Technology
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You're Doing AI Wrong with Charlene Li
38 min
52
VONQ Goes Hollywood & Indeed Builds a Death Star
47 min
53
Shredded: Tutor Intelligence, Jeeva AI, Helio A...
5 min
54
ICE, ICE Baby with Desiree Throckmorton
The Chad & Cheese dive into the rising storm of I-9 compliance with OutSolve’s Desiree Throckmorton. With ICE’s $170B budget surge and 15,000 inspections coming in 2026, sloppy I-9s can mean fines up to $27K per violation. Remote checks, wrong docs, missing fields—everything’s fair game. Add skyrocketing H-1B fees and recent raids, and Desiree warns: audit now, centralize records, and get ICE-ready—or get burned.
25 min
55
TURKEYS: Indeed, Randstad, SHRM and....
39 min
56
From Hi to Hired w/ Julia Levy
29 min
57
Zoom & Workday Get Busy
37 min
58
Shredded: Zoom, BrightHire, Equifax, Vault Veri...
5 min
59
Team Intelligence w/ Jon Levy
32 min
60
Indeed Stranglehold Gets Tighter and Tighter
49 min
61
Shredded: Ridepanda, Planbase, Boostie, Scribe,...
6 min
62
5 Must Have Agents for TA w/ David Weinstock
44 min
63
Will SAP and Workday Go Amazon?
49 min
64
Shredded: VeroSkills, ADP, Pequity, Personio, W...
4 min
65
Fighting Job Seeker Fraud
38 min
66
iCIMS Awakes, Amazon Axes, and Monster Shambles On
51 min
67
Shredded: AuditBoard, FairNow, Amazon, Mercor, ...
6 min
68
Supercharge Your Conversions w/ Shay Johnson
33 min
69
Facebook Jobs Rises While OpenAI Gets Dirty
55 min
70
Shredded: Aragorn AI, Jack & Jill, Armstrong, A...
7 min
71
It’s All In Your Head w/ Barry Wolfe
27 min
72
Chicken Cock Live
32 min
73
Shredded: GigRadar, Upsky, Humanly, Sprockets, ...
3 min
74
Welcome to SkyNet w/ Malcolm Frank
37 min
75
Will LinkedIn Burn Filament?
53 min