The Bulwark Podcast

Charlie Sykes and guests discuss the latest news from inside Washington and around the world. No shouting, grandstanding, or sloganeering. Conservative, conscientious, and civil.

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News Commentary
Julian Zelizer and Kevin Kruse: History Is Unde...
History became more politicized in the Trump era and the conservative media ecosystem has helped amplify untruths.
46 min
Will Saletan: Policing the Police
Training and diversity are not enough — cops who break the law must be prosecuted. Plus, the normalization of political violence around Jan 6 and the attack on Paul Pelosi, and Steve Bannon goes deeper on election denialism.
47 min
Tim Miller: Deep Inside Tucker Carlson's Navel
Republicans are so out of touch, their public brand is in trouble. Plus, MTG is Queen of the GOP, Schlapp is too sleazy for Gaetz, and party types are praying for a Trump heart attack.
50 min
Michael Weiss: A Watershed Moment for Ukraine
It took a lot of arm-twisting, but the West has finally committed to arming Ukraine with battle tanks — not only to boost its defenses, but also to take the fight to the Russians. And
46 min
Jonathan Alter: How the Documents Hurt Biden
Biden has been seen as scandal-free, but his classified docs case may cost him a big political asset: the benefit of the doubt.
48 min
David Weigel: MAGA v MAGA
Republicans may have underperformed in the midterms, but the RNC chair fight is not about changing the party's direction.
39 min
Will Saletan: It's In Your Nature to Destroy Yo...
The pro-life movement, undaunted by the midterms, is pushing for more restrictions— and the political backlash will be severe.
51 min
Catherine Rampell: Psychotic Feral Cats with Ma...
Republicans are back to extortion and holding the debt ceiling hostage after adding $4.7 trillion to the deficit during the Trump years — and that was before the pandemic.
40 min
Michael Schmidt: "I Didn't Know They Made Peopl...
Before John Kelly became chief of staff, he thought the chaos at the White House was due to the people around Trump. Instead, each day was about getting through the day without Trump doing something illegal, immoral, or damaging to himself or the country.
45 min
Bill Kristol: Glimmers of Hope
The shift in attitudes about defense and foreign policy in Germany has been dramatic since the war in Ukraine began. Plus, will ripping off a dying dog be the tipping point for George Santos?
34 min
David French: Our Religious Freedoms Are Not Ha...
New York Times-bound David French tells Charlie Sykes how he re-thought same-sex marriage, how he felt he was living in a bubble, and how religious liberty is more strongly protected than it's ever been.
45 min
Will Saletan: Performative Garbage
RonAnon Johnson wanted to get beat up on "Meet the Press" — so he could weaponize it. Plus, the active moving backward from MLK's dream, Trump gets the ultimate whataboutism, debt ceiling dangers, and a football confession.
42 min
Michael Steele: Slapping Matt Schlapp
Former RNC Chair Michael Steele had a front-row seat for the start of the ugly transformation at CPAC. Racist rhetoric has now been normalized, and they're not even pretending anymore.
33 min
Adam Kinzinger: Detoxing from Congress
Watching from a distance, former Rep. Kinzinger tells Charlie Sykes that House moderates have a lot of power they're not willing to use, while the Freedom Caucus —AKA "The Terror Club" — is willing to shoot hostages.
38 min
Aaron Blake: Kevin McCarthy Is Keeping a Secret
Without his secret pact, Kevin McCarthy likely would not be Speaker.
39 min
Olivia Nuzzi: Has Trump Become Norma Desmond?
Trump rarely leaves his 'weird' smelling, moldy mansion, he seems bored and tired, and D-List MAGA are his main loyalists now.
37 min
Will Saletan: Expect More Hostage-Taking in the...
McCarthy paid the ransom, Bannon is openly supporting violence in Brazil, and even normie Republicans are prepared to put the US economy at risk.
48 min
A.B. Stoddard: A Desperate Man
The hijackers have the energy in the House, Biden is quietly succeeding, no-mentum Trump's biggest fear is being ignored, DeSantis is a closet wimp, and George Santos doesn't respond to his name — is his name fake too? A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
48 min
Nick Confessore: The Theater of Elise Stefanik
Rep. Elise Stefanik was a star pupil and the future of the GOP — now she's joined the kids in the back of the class, whose only role in Congress is to generate outrage.
42 min
John Avlon: The Bomb Throwers Just Don't Care
McCarthy thought he could appease the kamikaze caucus with cash and playing along with Stop the Steal — surprise, they'd rather ruin everything if they can't rule. CNN's John Avlon joins Charlie Sykes on today's pod.
37 min
Tom Nichols: Of Course They All Hate Each Other
The House Republican caucus is a jackal pack, with George Santos — the poster boy for our era of grift — along for the ride.
48 min
Andrew Weissmann: The DOJ and Trump's Attempted...
he clock is ticking down on whether to bring charges against Trump for what was essentially a "simple" scheme — a president wanted to stay in power even though he lost the election. Former DOJ prosecutor Andrew Weissmann joined Charlie Sykes for this encore episode from July.
30 min
Susan Glasser and Peter Baker: Trump's Hostile ...
During his four years in office, Trump kept testing the weaknesses in our Constitutional system — and January 6 was the culmination of his war on the institutions of American government. Susan Glasser and Peter Baker's book, "The Divider" captures the threat Trump posed. But as they told Charlie Sykes, their book is not just history: It's also a prologue if he returns to power. This encore episode was originally released in September.
32 min
Maggie Haberman: Trump Is Damaged and He Causes...
Donald Trump is the product of an exacting and brutal father who undermined him in private, and his damaged childhood has impacted him ever since. In this encore episode from October, Maggie Haberman, author of "Confidence Man," told Charlie Sykes that Trump doesn't really trust anyone — and that the era of distrust we live in now is one of his biggest legacies.
31 min
Jennifer Senior: Steve Bannon Is an Asymmetric ...
Steve Bannon is a card-carrying member of the coastal elite, but he's trying to light a bonfire under American democracy. An intelligent, well-read man in the same category as Tucker Carlson, Bannon's genius is in polarizing people. The Atlantic's Jennifer Senior joined Charlie Sykes in this encore episode from June.
48 min
Nick Confessore: Tucker and the Most Racist Sho...
Tucker Carlson regularly borrows conspiracy theories from the racist right, and counsels his viewers that immigrants, nonwhites, and non-Christians are trying to destroy them and everything they love. Meanwhile, his show brings in more advertising revenue than any other Fox News program. The New York Times' Nick Confessore joined Charlie Sykes for this encore episode, originally released in May.
48 min
Michael Fanone: We Were Literally Fighting for ...
Former DC police officer Michael Fanone joined Charlie Sykes for our first live show, and recalled the events of Jan 6 — when he was seriously injured defending the Capitol. A one-time Trump voter and Fox News fan, Fanone is now waging "a one-man war" against Trump and his reality-denying apologists. He also shared his thoughts about Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, Mike Pence, and the battle for the American soul. This encore episode was originally released in October.
44 min
Tim Alberta: The Political Poisoning of the Eva...
On this Christmas weekend, we revisit our conversation with Tim Alberta about the morphing of evangelicalism from a spiritual disposition to a political identity, a development Alberta calls "heartbreaking."
40 min
BONUS EPISODE: The Bulwark Goes Across the Movi...
The Across the Movie Aisle pod returns to Pandora for James Cameron’s Avatar: The Way of Water. Is the sequel — 13 years in the making — worth the wait?
37 min
Eric Edelman: A Struggle Between Democracy and ...
Zelensky didn't hit a wrong note, and he embodied the Ukrainian people's will to freedom on the floor of the US Congress.
31 min
BONUS EPISODE: The Symmetry Between Zelensky's ...
The fight against Putin and the fight against Trump are cousins, so how poetic is it that Zelensky and the January 6 report both show up on nearly the same day?
43 min
Gen. Mick Ryan: The War in Ukraine, 10 months In
Putin likes to say the West is weak, but he isn't even fighting NATO, and he's losing.
38 min
Will Saletan: He Wanted the Violence
The January 6 committee never wavered from its main goal: to make sure Trump never holds power again.
34 min
The Next Level Takes Over The Bulwark
Tim Miller checks in from Turning Point's event in Phoenix on the role of "Gays Against Groomers" in the culture war.
52 min
Symone Sanders-Townsend: Let Joe Run
The case for Biden to run again, the hate-mongering GOP, and the expectations around Kamala vs the realities of the vice presidency.
46 min
Derek Thompson: An Abundance Agenda for the Future
The success of Operation Warp Speed has been orphaned by both sides — the left won't credit Trump for any policy success, and too many on the right won't get vaxxed.
45 min
Dan Vallone: The History Wars Are Not What They...
Americans are less divided than they think about how schools should teach about our nation's history.
26 min
Elaina Plott Calabro: MTG Is More Cunning than ...
Marjorie Taylor Greene tried on Jesus and CrossFit before she got to MAGA.
49 min
Adam Kinzinger: The Torch Is Now with the DOJ (...
Even with some key figures refusing to testify, the Jan 6 committee still was able to tell the story of crimes that were committed that day.
32 min
Tim Miller: Nazis Bad, Constitution Good
Brittney Griner is home, Sinema does the Angus King thing, Republicans pass on a "Get Out of Jail" card, and a huge win for same-sex marriage.
53 min
A.B. Stoddard: A Most Delicious Circular Firing...
Republicans need someone to blame besides Trump, so Laura Ingraham is turning on the RNC, Kellyanne is turning on Jared, and a rump group in the Senate is turning on McConnell.
45 min
Mark Leibovich: DeSantis Is Not the Savior
Republicans are big mad about Herschel's loss, but they won't name the guy who got this production off the ground. Meanwhile, low-energy Trump is plotting how to take out the charmless but ruthless DeSantis. Mark Leibovich joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
47 min
Kori Schake: Rejecting Authoritarianism
The protesters in Iran have the wind in their sails, China is no longer likely to overtake the US as the world's dominant economy, and Ukraine gets to determine when it's time to negotiate. Kori Schake joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
50 min
Will Saletan: Saying the Quiet Part Blaringly O...
Trump has upped the ante from sedition to Nazis and terminating the Constitution — and yet Republicans continue to shrug. Plus, the anti-science fever is spreading, and the genius behind the marketing of Herschel Walker in Georgia. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
41 min
Tim Miller: A Week Full of Nazis
Kanye not only ruined the cover story on Trump's Nazi dinner, he also wrecked Tucker's plan to make him a conservative icon. Plus, prematurely clearing the field for DeSantis, Trump's judge gets slapped down, and Hunter's laptop will be a punchline. Tim Miller's back with Charlie Sykes.
55 min
Dana Milbank: Even Kevin McCarthy Doesn't Trust...
If he can round up the support to be speaker, McCarthy is still going to have to fend off Trump trying to muck things up from Mar-a-Lago, as well members of his caucus threatening repeated no-confidence votes.
39 min
Ben Wittes: The Worst Story We Told Ourselves W...
January 6 was not merely a conspiracy to break windows and storm the Capitol — for some, it was a conspiracy to resist the lawful authority of the United States. Plus, Musk's vandalism of Twitter is destroying something precious. Ben Wittes joins Charlie Sykes.
50 min
Peter Wehner: Turning on Trump for the Wrong Re...
The Republican establishment scolding Trump has little to do with morality and everything to do with power. Peter Wehner joins Charlie Sykes today.
45 min
Will Saletan: Dining with a Nazi
Trump had to know of Nick Fuentes before they sat down to dinner — he regards openly racist and antisemitic trolls as a fundamental part of his base. And now Kevin McCarthy needs allies of Fuentes to be speaker. Will Saletan's back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
51 min
A Thanksgiving Message from Team Bulwark
Bulwarkers join Charlie Sykes to share their thoughts of gratitude for the holiday.
17 min
David Priess: Trump's Very Bad Day at Court
A trio of conservative judges sounded very skeptical about Trump's need for a special master in the Mar-a-Lago case, and the Supreme Court basically told him, "No, we are not your justices." Plus, the post-shame culture of Tucker Carlson. David Priess joins Charlie Sykes.
47 min
David Frum: House Republicans Aim for a Rerun
The incoming House majority looks like it will repeat the patterns of '94 and 2010 by heading into the fever swamps to indulge its coalition, rather than expand it. Plus, Trump isn't the only one to blame for the midterms. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes on today's pod.
45 min
Tom Nichols: A 2016 Flashback?
Once again, the anti-anti-Trumpers are standing back and hoping Trump will run out of tricks, instead of calling him out as an existential threat to democracy. Plus, will McCarthy really get the gavel — and how long could he possibly hold it? Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today.
40 min
Tim Miller: Sometimes Reality Sets In
Steve Bannon knows he's lying, irrational exuberance took over Kari Lake HQ, and Mar-a-Lago is in a bubble. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
43 min
Mark McKinnon: The Message Still Matters
Midterm voters in the middle were deliberative and serious, and were not seduced by the crowds, the media spin, and the polls. Plus, a late Elvis sighting at Mar-a-Lago, and the Republican House makes moves to defend the insurrectionists. Mark McKinnon joins Charlie Sykes today.
41 min
David Corn: Trump Is Still a Threat
Trump's 2024 announcement may have been panned, but his base loves the greatest hits — millions just voted for election deniers across the country. And while the GOP underperformed in the election, the anti-reality wing will have a stronger presence in the House. David Corn joins Charlie Sykes.
49 min
Adam Kinzinger: Knives Out in the Nutcase Caucus
Matt Gaetz is suddenly attacking Marjorie Taylor Greene, MTG is suddenly a super fan of Kevin's, and Elise Stefanik is scheming over in the corner. Republicans will have a very dysfunctional majority. Adam Kinzinger joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
38 min
Will Saletan: Gelded by the Nutcase Caucus
Last Tuesday destroyed Kevin McCarthy — he will be either defeated or humiliated. Meanwhile, Republicans may be figuring out that Trump is electoral poison, and they can't win with him or without him. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
47 min
Michigan Magic with Mallory McMorrow
It was a perfect storm this week for Michigan Democrats, who won control of the legislature for the first time in 40 years and swept the top of the ticket. After all the talk of groomers and drag queen story hour, voters finally reached the limit on crazy. Plus, is a Whitmer v. DeSantis showdown in our future? Mallory McMorrow joins guest host Tim Miller for the weekend pod.
50 min
Tim O'Brien: He Will Burn It All Down
Watch out: Trump is embarrassed, cornered and facing defeat. When GOP leaders try to shun him, he will turn the base against them, regardless of how bad it is for the party. Tim O'Brien joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
36 min
A.B. Stoddard: We Could've Been the United Stat...
The polls were a mess and the hive mind was wrong — Gen Z saved the Democrats and abortion proved to be a powerful issue. Now, the knives are out and there could be a civil war in the GOP caucus. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
46 min
Barbara Slavin: Fire Under the Ashes
Women's rights and hijab rules are at the center of widespread protests in Iran, but the demonstrations quickly evolved and are now the most serious threat to the regime in decades. Barbara Slavin joins Charlie Sykes on today's podcast.
43 min
Will Saletan: Only One God-King at a Time
DeSantis flew too close to the sun, Kellyanne tried out her take on denialism, and Musk — the man who once talked of colonizing Mars — showed in the space of one week how much of a nasty, thin-skinned putz he is. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
48 min
Bill Kristol: Be Alarmed
Republican rhetoric is like rightwing Mad Libs — it's also emboldening Putin over aid for Ukraine. Plus, Kari Lake juniors are surely coming our way, and Trump could get so antsy, he'll announce on Election Day. Bill Kristol joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
41 min
Bart Gellman: The Impeachment of Joe Biden
If Republicans win the House, MAGA voters will expect Republicans to impeach Biden, and Trump will demand it. The rationale won't even matter — and other administration officials are likely to be impeached as well. Bart Gellman joins Charlie Sykes today.
35 min
Elizabeth Williamson: It Started with Sandy Hook
The conspiracies and lies around the mass shooting at Sandy Hook were not a one-off — they laid the foundation for the age of disinformation and misinformation we live in. Elizabeth Williamson joins Charlie Sykes today.
36 min
Charlie Warzel: Elon's Disastrous Weekend
Musk may build rockets and electric cars, but he is ignorant about content moderation on social media. And Twitter is not a game - it’s a platform that is central to our political discourse. We need an adult at the helm. Charlie Warzel joins Charlie Sykes today.
40 min
Will Saletan: Elon Musk’s Hellscape
Twitter's new owner couldn't resist jumping into the toxic disinformation campaign against Paul Pelosi, Stephen Miller's running an ad claiming Biden is racist against white people, and Obama returns to the campaign trail. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie & Will Monday.
49 min
Maggie Haberman: A Character Study of Trump — a...
Trump is fascinated with violence, and his damaging childhood has impacted him ever since. And the man who was more interested in winning in 2016 than being president, now really wants the title and the power again— along with the payback. Maggie Haberman joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
33 min
Karen Tumulty: Are the Pundits Getting It Wrong?
Was John Fetterman's debate performance a fatal error — or will it inspire voters with empathy and admiration? And did the Jan 6 committee hearings actually change people's minds? Karen Tumulty joins Charlie Sykes today.
47 min
Robert Draper: Weapons of Mass Delusion
The GOP has become a host body for some of the most radical voices in America, who spread disinformation and use increasingly violent rhetoric. And the party's enablers don't say a word. How are the Republicans going to get this to stop? Robert Draper joins Charlie Sykes.
43 min
Franklin Foer: Donald Trump Will Be Indicted
It will be a terrible spectacle, there may be violence, and the country could be torn apart, but Trump's autocratic, undemocratic behavior cannot go unchallenged. Franklin Foer joins Charlie Sykes to make the case that Trump's indictment is inevitable.
47 min
Will Saletan: Liars and Fraudsters Can Still Win
Walker and Oz are still in the running, Kari Lake is getting fact-checked and she's not happy, and Will shares his theory on why the national Democrats aren't pouring money into Ohio to help Tim Ryan. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
37 min
The Bulwark Live, with Michael Fanone
At our first live show, Michael Fanone shared his thoughts about Kevin McCarthy, Lindsey Graham, Mike Pence, Fox News, and the battle for the American soul.
48 min
Adam Hochschild: American Midnight
An American president doesn't have to be a loud showman to be an aspiring autocrat. The genteel Woodrow Wilson censored the media and threw his political enemies in jail. The years 1917-1921 were some of the darkest days of our democracy. Adam Hochschild joins Charlie Sykes today.
40 min
Jake Sherman: What McCarthy Told Me
If the Republicans win back the House, a more absolutist caucus is likely to refuse to raise the debt limit unless Democrats agree to spending cuts. And Kevin McCarthy is likely to oppose more military aid for Ukraine. Jake Sherman joins Charlie Sykes today.
39 min
Will Saletan: Why Aren't People Voting on Democ...
Americans are worried about democracy, but not enough to vote about it. Plus, Tim Ryan dusted off the hits against JD Vance, Evan McMullin called out Mike Lee, Tulsi goes MAGA, and surprise, Eric "50 Bucks" Trump is a liar. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes.
55 min
Adam Kinzinger: Unplugged
The J6 member sounds off on Ukraine, Iran, Trump, MTG, the Secret Service, Mike Lee, Katie Hobbs, boiling frogs, media exhaustion, and SNL.
39 min
Denver Riggleman: Why I Wrote It
Among the pile of phone and message data to mine is Roger Stone's organizing strategy, Jason Miller's false flag op and the White House phone numbers attached to riot planners. Denver Riggleman joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend podcast.
50 min
Dana Milbank: The Alien Lizard Party
Both parties could have waves, the new crop of House GOP nominees make Jim Jordan and Paul Gosar look sane, and MAGA Musk may lose his urban, coastal Tesla-buyers.
35 min
Lucy Caldwell: Fetterman Should Have Dropped Out
Fetterman's stroke was always going to be THE big story, and now the moment's arrived. Plus, Herschel Walker's talk of redemption without confession, Mastriano's antisemitism, and abortion v crime overshadows democracy in the midterms. Lucy Caldwell joins Charlie Sykes.
44 min
David Frum: Biden's Blurt Problem
Putin's left-wing supporters may be voluble on social media, but his supporters on the right are a political force. Plus, America's crushing labor shortage, asylum laws, and the border problem. David Frum joins Charlie Sykes today.
41 min
Julian Zelizer: Living with Fear of Nuclear Wea...
Since Ronald Reagan signed the INF nuclear arms reduction treaty, all presidents have worked to limit nuclear proliferation — except Trump, who pulled the US out of arms control deals. The nukes are still here, and we're depending on Putin to be rational. Julian Zelizer joins Charlie Sykes.
39 min
Bill Kristol: Degeneracy Is the Norm
Just five years ago, Republicans disavowed Roy Moore. Now, they're all in with Herschel Walker's lies. Plus, a shifting electorate, the prospects for ticket-splitting in the midterms, and Biden's warning about nukes. The weekend podcast with Charlie Sykes and Bill Kristol.
44 min
Major Garrett & David Becker: How a Second Civi...
Most GOP nominees running in the midterms are election deniers. Would it be all that surprising if one political party refused to accept a state's election results in November? Major Garrett and David Becker join Charlie Sykes to discuss the potential fracturing of democracy — and America.
43 min
Ruy Teixeira: Some Tough Love for the Democrats
Normie voters hate crime and want a secure border, but Democrats don't project toughness because they're scared of their base. And the party's quasi-religious belief in wind and solar also makes Democrats less competitive. Ruy Teixeira joins Charlie Sykes today.
50 min
Kara Swisher: Our Careless Oligarchs
Those billionaires who text Elon Musk don't care what they break, Musk is tweeting about Ukraine because he loves attention, Peter Thiel doesn't care that he's a hypocrite, and Christian Walker needs a hug. Kara Swisher joins Charlie Sykes today.
45 min
BONUS EPISODE: The Focus Group with Sarah Longw...
America's Dairyland is becoming America's Election Land. Wisconsin has major races for governor and for U.S. Senate...and how are the Trump-to-Biden voters that delivered Wisconsin for Joe Biden feeling about them? The Bulwark's own Charlie Sykes joins Sarah Longwell to talk about what the voters (and Charlie) are thinking. Listen to the end for the most laugh-out-loud funny moment Sarah's ever heard in a focus group.
43 min
Will Saletan: Shrugging in the Face of Threats ...
Trump makes an apparent death threat against McConnell and Marjorie Taylor Greene incites violence at one of his rallies. Official GOP response? Crickets. Meanwhile, CPAC goes full RT and Russia stumbles in Ukraine. Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
45 min
Tim Miller: Why Lizzo Triggers Ben
Kevin McCarthy tries/fails to argue he's not a spineless suck-up, the [Blame] America First crowd goes full Alex Jones, and the fake mad get tied in knots over Lizzo and the flute. Plus, Trump really had the USS John McCain moved out of sight. Tim Miller joins Charlie Sykes for the weekend pod.
62 min
Susan Glasser & Peter Baker: A History and a Wa...
The history of the Trump presidency is also a warning of a Trump 2.0 — this time, he would know how to pull the levers of power to get what he wanted, and there would be no John Kelly or Jim Mattis looking out for our democracy. Peter Baker and Susan Glasser join Charlie Sykes.
34 min
Tom Nichols: Clowns with Flame Throwers
Roger Stone, Tucker Carlson, and other clowns rile people up only to stand back and let violent political tourists do the actual fighting — and jail time. Plus, the nuclear threat from Russia. Tom Nichols joins Charlie Sykes today.
46 min
A.B. Stoddard: The Super Kooks
Oz is critiquing Fetterman's clothing style, Obama supporter and liar Kari Lake is a contender, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been normalized — and Elise Stefanik is trying to stay in her good graces. Plus, progressives may be in for a reckoning. A.B. Stoddard joins Charlie Sykes.
53 min
Tim O'Brien: For Trump, It's Always about the $$$
Letitia James aims to shut down the Trump family operation in New York, which means he'd have to unload his skyscrapers in a fire sale. Plus, Trump will sell anything — he's sold underwear, water, and steaks. Why wouldn't he monetize nuclear secrets? Tim O'Brien joins Charlie Sykes.
38 min
Tim Miller: Can We Indict Him Just by Thinking ...
Judge Dearie is not the kind of master Trump wanted, Hannity is like a North Korea propagandist, DeSantis has thoughts about history, and Turning Point welcomes Alex Jones. And from TribFest, Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller debate immigration deep in the heart of Texas. Your weekend pod.
48 min
Jonathan Lemire: How Do You Cover an Insurrecti...
The media had to learn never to quote Trump verbatim because of the lies, and it fact-checked him on steroids. Is it up to the task of covering him again? Plus, is the Big Lie just a pretext for not letting the other side win? Jonathan Lemire joins Charlie Sykes today.
43 min
Stephanie Slade: The NatCons’ Will to Power
Elements on both the left and right are tracking in the same illiberal direction on economic regulation, the First Amendment, and on radical rhetoric. Plus, the NatCons’ plan to get the country to go full Trump. Stephanie Slade joins Charlie Sykes today.
47 min
Dylan Byers: What's Going On at CNN?
It's a new era at CNN. Don Lemon's moving to mornings, and some of the more outspoken anchors and correspondents, like Brian Stelter, have been cleared out. Plus, the goings-on at Politico, Semafor and Puck. Dylan Byers joins Charlie Sykes today.
43 min
Will Saletan: Nice Little Democracy You Got There
Will Saletan is back with Charlie Sykes for Charlie and Will Monday.
48 min
Tim Miller: LOLs in DeSantis-Stan
Refugees escaping communist Venezuela are pawns in a big joke, but isn't it brilliant political theater? -> Charlie Sykes and Tim Miller do an epic takedown of the "Nothing Matters" crowd. Plus, weird Blake Masters, putting Kemp on the spot, and Republicans: Put up or shut up on same-sex marriage.
50 min