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POLITICO's Off Message
POLITICO takes you behind the scenes with Washington's power players to uncover what's really driving politics and policy in the nation’s capital. Hosted by Isaac Dovere.
News & Politics
Beto O'Rourke doesn’t want to be Democrats' nex...
The Texas congressman talks Ted Cruz, the lyrics he wrote in his old punk band, and the ways he wishes he was more like his dad.
54 min
Schwarzenegger lets loose on Trump, Big Oil and...
Live from SXSW, Arnold Schwarzenegger joins us for a wide-ranging conversation on politics, the environment — and even the upcoming "Terminator" movie.
58 min
Democrats Vow to Go After GOP Governors ‘Kowtow...
Jay Inslee, the governor of Washington and DGA head, wants gubernatorial races to become a battlefield for the anti-Trump resistance.
40 min
Michael Hayden on Trump, Russia and why you can...
Retired General and former CIA Director Michael Hayden sees a "convergence" between the Trump campaign and Russia. He's ‘very concerned’ about it—and thinks you should be, too.
41 min
BONUS: Utah Gov. on Romney’s Trump Endorsement ...
Utah Governor Gary Herbert explains why he doesn't mind Romney's flip-flop on taking Trump's endorsement, the gun law changes he'd like to see, and why Utah is chasing another shot at hosting the Olympics.
30 min
Yes to “thoughts and prayers,” but why not acti...
New Jersey Governor Phil Murphy talks about gun violence, what he has in common with Donald Trump, and his time working as a textbook salesman.
42 min
‘Black women are realizing the power of their v...
Atlanta Mayor Keisha Lance Bottoms on the political rise of black women, what it would take for Democrats to win Georgia in 2020, and how it feels to visit your father in prison while you're just a child.
36 min
Joe Kennedy could be the Democrats’ best hope. ...
Kennedy on why Democrats need a “big, messy” primary in 2020, the reason he thinks Joe Biden would've defeated Trump, his time as Elizabeth Warren's student at Harvard, and what it's like to learn about your family members in history class.
38 min
House Republicans struggle with what to do abou...
Steve Stivers heads up the House GOP's campaign arm. And that means that, among other things, he's faced with figuring out where—and how—President Trump can be helpful to Republican candidates.
44 min
Evangelicals give Trump a ‘mulligan’ on life pr...
Tony Perkins, the head of the Family Research Council, says that evangelical conservatives are willing to overlook Trump’s past behavior so long as he delivers for them on policy.
45 min
‘Washington was about to explode’: The Clinton ...
An all-star panel discusses how #MeToo changes the way we think about Bill Clinton and Monica Lewinsky, how the scandals of 1998 would play out in today's media environment, and what Trump learned from Clinton's example.
51 min
Perez: GOP must answer for "appalling silence" ...
DNC chair Tom Perez talks about Trump's 'shithole countries' remark, and shares why he thinks the "party of Lincoln" is dead — despite the fact it controls the White House, Congress, Judiciary, and most states.
41 min
Jordan Klepper: Is what we're living through fu...
Comedy Central host Jordan Klepper discusses satire, conspiracy theorists (including Donald Trump), and working on a fake news show in the "fake news" era.
31 min
John Dean: Trump's inner circle has no idea wha...
John Dean, Nixon's White House counsel, has a warning for Trump's team: they're repeating the mistakes of Watergate, this isn't going to end any time soon, and nobody should assume they're prepared.
44 min
Bill de Blasio says he isn’t running for presid...
In Des Moines, de Blasio talks about the New Yorkers who could run in 2020, and the direction progressives should head.
40 min
Joe Manchin: How Trump is losing red-state Demo...
Manchin talks about moonshine, the ‘chickenshit’ attacks on him, and what he sees as the 'atrocious’ treatment of Al Franken.
54 min
PREVIEW: Why Sen. Joe Manchin thinks Al Franken...
“What they did to Al, the Democrats, was the most hypocritical thing I've ever seen done to a human being,” says Manchin.
2 min
Petraeus: ‘Life is not full of high-five moments’
The retired general and former CIA director explains why he thinks Trump’s foreign policy is more continuation than change, what he knows about Mike Flynn, and
65 min
Trump’s threat to take down the GOP still stands
Corey Lewandowski and David Bossie don’t know if Donald Trump will remain a Republican, but they believe Republicans owe him their loyalty.
47 min
Capitol Hill braces for a wave of sexual harass...
Isaac talks with Politico congressional reporters Rachael Bade and Elana Schor about Al Franken, John Conyers, Roy Moore, why Hill staffers fear what leadership will do if they speak out and what it will take for the ‘dam to break.’
36 min
Garry Kasparov on whether Trump could beat Puti...
The Russian pro-democracy activists on strategy, transparency, and how chess made him interested in politics.
34 min
Perry: The Cabinet won’t stop Trump from launch...
Former Secretary of Defense Bill Perry is America’s nuclear conscience — and he’s worried.
40 min
What Jed Bartlet and Jack Donaghy would say to ...
Interviews with Alec Baldwin and Bradley Whitford
31 min
Eric Holder is done holding his tongue
The former Attorney General talks impeachment, redistricting, and why Jeff Sessions is “racially unaware.”
37 min
Nancy Pelosi isn’t going anywhere
Nancy Pelosi is hated; she’s a hero. She’s the Democrats’ secret weapon; she’s the Republicans’ favorite target. She’s been around politics her entire life...
58 min
Preet Bharara: Trump, indictments and the Godfa...
For years, former U.S. Attorney Preet Bharara was one of the most feared prosecutors in America. Then President Trump asked him to resign...
50 min
Thom Tillis: ‘If they don’t like the process, ...
North Carolina Senator Thom Tillis discusses his dream of going to Burning Man and how he sees Breitbart and the Huffington Post as the same...
54 min
Puerto Rico's Jenniffer Gonzalez to Trump: ‘We...
Puerto Rico's delegate in Congress discusses what she made of President Trump’s promise to wipe away the territory’s debt...
40 min
Mark Kelly to lawmakers opposing gun laws: ‘You...
Captain Mark Kelly sits down to discuss gun control in the wake of the Las Vegas shooting...
41 min
Rob Reiner tries to find the truth about Trump ...
Actor and activist Rob Reiner sits down with Isaac Dovere in New York to discuss Russia, Trump, cultural fights sweeping and country and celebrities' role in all of it.
38 min
Jeff Merkley: Meet the leader of the vast left-...
Oregon Senator Jeff Merkley discusses what became of the wind turbine he built in his backyard, how an offhand slight in the math-science center in high school got him started in his first race...
46 min
Will Hurd: Everybody needs to stand up
Texas Congressman Will Hurd has a message for Republicans who don’t like the funding deal President Donald Trump made with Democrats: Get yourself together, or quit complaining.
36 min
Dolores Huerta: I think the '60s are back
Dolores Huerta, the famed labor leader who marched with Cesar Chavez and coined his rallying cry, is still mad as hell—and she was spitting fire when I asked her about..
26 min
How Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan became unbeatable
Detroit Mayor Mike Duggan discusses his unexpected write-in victory, turning around the city's urban decline and turning the street lights back on.
40 min
Al Sharpton & Jerry Nadler on hate in America
Rev. Al Sharpton and Rep. Jerry Nadler, who battled Donald Trump for years in New York, consider the lasting consequences of his Charlottesville comments and their own experiences with racism and anti-Semitism.
57 min
Cecile Richards and the future of choice politics
Planned Parenthood President Cecile Richards discusses women senators' role in the health care repeal vote, the resilience of volunteers and clinics, and what the future holds for the abortion fight.
32 min
Alaska Gov. Bill Walker on the future of indepe...
Bill Walker sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss the last time he saw Sarah Palin, standing in the middle of a river at age 12 when an earthquake destroyed his hometown and what his meetings during Energy Week at the White House were like.
34 min
Obama’s inner circle is urging Deval Patrick to...
Former Massachusetts Governor Deval Patrick sits down with Isaac Dovere at Bain Capital in Boston to discuss his decision to join the investment firm, his tight-knit relationship with President Obama and what's next for his political career.
43 min
Maz Jobrani on Trump protest comedy
Comedian Maz Jobrani reflects back on his own immigrant experience as a child and how that has influenced his perception of the world, especially now that the country is charged by policies like President Trump's travel ban.
28 min
Arnold Schwarzenegger's not done with politics
Gov. Arnold Schwarzenegger sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss gerrymandering, the similarities between politics and show business, and why he gets under President Trump's skin.
46 min
Debating free journalism in Cuba
One of the most recognizable journalists from Cuba's state television, Cristina Escobar, sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss censorship, the impact of President Obama's historic visit in 2016, and Cubans' take on the Trump White House.
33 min
Can Roy Cooper show Democrats how to win again?
North Carolina Governor Roy Cooper talks high school sports highlights, gerrymandering and building up the Democratic party at the state levels.
39 min
How Trump Is changing the Washington game
Playbook co-authors Anna Palmer and Jake Sherman join the show to discuss how they have reworked their lives around an early morning schedule that keeps them both going 365 days per year...
35 min
Is Trump a Conservative? Mike Lee says yes
Here’s where Lee, the junior Republican senator from Utah, has landed: Trump makes sense in the White House, as the head of the Republican Party, and as a leader of the conservative moment because that’s what happened. It’s more deduction than enthusiasm.
26 min
Wrestling with the Trump White House
AP's Julie Pace and NYT's Peter Baker discuss how they approach covering a president and White House that clearly wants a war with the media and looks for every opportunity to pick a fight.
40 min
Gerard Araud: Europeans can't build a future wi...
French Ambassador Gerard Araud gives Isaac Dovere his read on Trump’s personality and the advice he gave Macron on dealing with him before their first encounter.
45 min
Mitch Landrieu: The President of the United May...
New Orleans Mayor Mitch Landrieu wants to turn the Conference of Mayors into a powerful national platform as cities work around, ignore and resist the White House.
34 min
Ben Cardin: America in danger of stumbling into...
Maryland Senator Ben Cardin on how the Trump administration's foreign policy strategy is affecting credibility, his take on Rex Tillerson and what he's prepared to do if Republicans bring a health care bill to the floor without a hearing.
35 min
How Jason Kander won by losing
Jason Kander, who came shockingly close to ousting Missouri’s Republican Sen. Roy Blunt last November despite Hillary Clinton’s blowout loss in the state—has been a man in demand the last seven months.
45 min
Terry McAuliffe looks past the Clintons
The Virginia governor talks skydiving, how he thinks Hillary Clinton needs to step back, taking on Trump, his campaign plans for 2018 and the looming question of whether he'll make his own White House run in 2020.
50 min
Chad Griffin & Paula Vogel
Human Rights Campaign president Chad Griffin assesses the record of Trump White House--and Ivanka Trump--on gay rights and what the Resistance has to learn. Tony-nominated Paula Vogel talks her play "Indecent" and anxieties about art in the age of Trump.
55 min
Linda McMahon complains of White House 'bottlen...
Small Business Administrator Linda McMahon discusses going from bankruptcy to WWE millions, the first time she met Donald Trump, staffing challenges and her mission to introduce more small business owners to the SBA.
35 min
Wyclef Jean: I might run for office someday
Wyclef Jean’s advice for celebrities who want to get political: Don’t be like Kathy Griffin.
27 min
Ben Sasse on Trump and being an adult
Mention President Donald Trump’s name and Nebraska Senator Ben Sasse closes his eyes, rocks back and forth on his heels in almost momentary pinched smile meditation, waiting for it to pass.
73 min
Problem Solvers insist it's not too late for ta...
Reed and Gottheimer aren’t crazy—they’re the co-chairs of the bipartisan Problem Solvers Caucus, and they insist their day has come. The voters who elected Trump demand it.
38 min
Eric Garcetti isn’t running for president (wink...
L.A. Mayor Eric Garcetti sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss his relationship with Donald Trump, what he learned about politics from his father and what his hopes are for his own political career.
57 min
Rahm Emanuel: 'America’s reliability is now in ...
Chicago Mayor Rahm Emanuel believes everyone in Washington is too focused on the craze around President Trump and unable to see what’s actually going on—and what’s not.
39 min
Sophia Bush: 'I have a right to take up space'
Actress and political activist Sophia Bush sits down with Isaac Dovere in New Orleans to discuss fighting for what she believes in (even if that means losing followers) and standing up against sexism in the work place.
48 min
Tom Cotton has no problem with Donald Trump
Arkansas Senator Tom Cotton sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss his love of Abraham Lincoln, how he cultivated such a friendly relationship with the Trump White House and what he learned from his time in the military.
49 min
Gov. John Kasich on a "post-truth" America
Ohio Gov. John Kasich sits down with Isaac Dovere this week to discuss the development of his faith, the difficulty of losing both his parents at a young age to a drunk driver and the moment he met President Nixon.
48 min
‘The Handmaid’s Tale’ crashes up against Trump
In Donald Trump, author Margaret Atwood and actress Elisabeth Moss see an eerie echo of her novels. Activist Stephanie Schriock is fighting to ensure that she’s wrong.
61 min
Elliott Abrams: Steve Bannon 'not a good influe...
Former Reagan and Bush diplomat Elliott Abrams sounds off on Steve Bannon, President Trump’s about-face on Syria and the boss he almost had.
56 min
Ed Murray: Meditating in the age of Trump
Seattle Mayor Ed Murray joins Off Message to discuss the city's lawsuit against the federal government on the sanctuary cities, how a monk encouraged him come out as a young man and what President Trump doesn't understand about the immigrant community.
52 min
Roger Stone on Russian claims: "They have no pr...
Republican strategist Roger Stone says he’s apologized to Paul Manafort for getting him involved in all the inquiries about possible Russian connections to Donald Trump’s presidential campaign.
52 min
Dave Brat: 'There's primaries coming' off Obama...
The Virginia congressman says it shouldn’t take a PhD to see what’s wrong with how his own party is handling the health care situation. He also discusses the importance of civics classes, if Paul Ryan is a conservative and his take on "fake news."
50 min
Adriano Espaillat: Trump has ‘permeated this to...
The New York congressman discusses the challenges of growing up undocumented, his take on fellow New Yorker President Donald Trump and more.
30 min
Michael Chertoff: 'I’d be guessing' on Trump's ...
Former Secretary of Homeland Security Michael Chertoff sits down with Isaac Dovere to discuss the country's most pressing security concerns, how to be prepared for the unexpected and his experiences with 9/11 and Hurricane Katrina.
55 min
Donna Brazile on DNC hack: 'I was scared'
The former Democratic National Committee Interim Chair Donna Brazile opens up about the toll the 2016 election hacks took on her personally, how her rapport with Donald Trump turned sour and discusses the CNN questions flap.
39 min
Tom Perez: "Trump is anathema to America"
Former Labor Secretary Tom Perez discusses his fight to become the new chair of the Democratic National Party and the many mistakes made in the 2016 presidential election.
45 min
Jon Karl: Trump White House "incredibly open"
ABC's Chief White House Correspondent Jon Karl has a front row to the Trump White House. And despite what the president has said about the "unfair media", Karl says this administration has been incredibly accessible and open.
37 min
Congressmen Marc Veasey and Brendan Boyle: Reac...
The two Democratic congressmen sit down with Isaac Dovere over some beers to discuss why they felt compelled to start the Blue Collar Caucus and how they're going to help Democrats understand what they missed about the electorate in 2016.
40 min
Hakeem Jeffries: 'Every racist' voted for Trump
POLITICO's Isaac Dovere sits down with New York Congressman Hakeem Jeffries to discuss his experience with detainees at JFK Airport, the similarities between Donald Trump and Richard Nixon, and how Democrats plan on pushing back against the White House.
36 min
John Malcolm: Is Trump a Constitutional conserv...
Isaac Dovere sits down with Heritage Foundation's John Malcolm for an in-depth discussion about how the next Supreme Court justice is chosen, what sets the best candidates apart from the rest and Donald Trump's Constitutional politics.
41 min
Chuck Todd: What makes Donald Trump laugh?
Meet the Press host Chuck Todd sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his father's influence on his career, why he regrets allowing Donald Trump to call in to the show and the public's perception of the media.
52 min
Keith Ellison's one-man march
Minnesota congressman Keith Ellison sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss growing up in Detroit, fighting Muslim stereotypes, what led him to Louis Farrakhan as a young man and why he's best suited for the top DNC post.
55 min
Tim Ryan: Lessons in losing
The Ohio congressman sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how mindfulness influences his everyday life, why losing to Pelosi was the "best professional experience" of his life and how Democrats need to tweak their messaging to working class people.
53 min
David Brock: Clinton campaign allowed her image...
Media Matters founder sits down with Glenn Thrush for a 2016 post-mortem. Brock criticizes the Clinton campaign's press strategy, lays out tactics for Democrats going forward and opens up about how pizza-gate has affected his day-to-day life.
68 min
Grover Norquist: The anti-tax man's take on Trump
Americans for Tax Reform founder Grover Norquist sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how anti-communism books inspired his political career at 10 years old and why he believes America does best with less government.
59 min
Maggie Haberman: How New York tabloids shaped T...
New York Times reporter Maggie Haberman sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss how they began their career together in New York City Hall and how the tabloid culture shaped Donald Trump.
73 min
Best of Off Message
In honor of Election Day, Glenn Thrush takes a look back at his favorite moments on the show - interviews that framed the narrative, made news, gave insight into the candidates' mindsets or, at least, gave us a laugh.
39 min
Mark Stephenson and John Hagner on early voting
Data gurus Mark Stephenson and John Hagner sit down with Glenn Thrush to discuss early voting and absentee ballots - what the trends say about campaign strategies and the electorate.
56 min
Mark Kelly: Everyone deserves to be heard on guns
Astronaut Mark Kelly sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss his lifelong experience with guns. Kelly opens up about the importance of having civil conversations with those who adamantly disagree with you and what needs to be done to stop gun violence.
46 min
Kris Kobach: Trump’s immigration whisperer
Kansas Secretary of State Kris Kobach sits down with Glenn Thrush in Topeka, Kansas to talk immigration and maintaining civility.
66 min
Michael Che, Colin Jost: What SNL's weekend anc...
Saturday Night Live's Colin Jost and Michael Che sit down with Glenn Thrush in 30 Rock for an unvarnished conversation about hating on Donald Trump, what Hillary Clinton is like behind the scenes and growing up in New York City.
60 min
Jen Palmieri: 2016 is 'a harrowing experience'
Hillary Clinton’s communications director Jen Pal…
56 min
Jill Stein: Trump may have 'memory problem'
Jill Stein: Trump may have 'memory problem' by P…
54 min
Ann Coulter: The Doyenne of the Deplorables
Author and political commentator Ann Coulter delv…
72 min
Neera Tanden: Hillary Clinton's anger translator
Neera Tanden: Hillary Clinton's anger translator…
64 min
Tony Blair: Centrism may be dead
Former British Prime Minister Tony Blair sits dow…
48 min
John Dickerson: Don't blame media for Donald Tr...
John Dickerson: Don't blame media for Donald Trum…
65 min
Chris Murphy: Newtown gave me a mission
Senator Chris Murphy made a name for himself when…
40 min
Jeff Weaver on the Bernie Sanders surrender
Bernie Sanders campaign manager Jeff Weaver sits …
49 min
Robby Mook on how to sell Hillary
Hillary Clinton campaign manager Robby Mook sits …
46 min
Nancy Pelosi's advice to Hillary Clinton: 'Be y...
Democratic Leader Nancy Pelosi sits down with Gle…
34 min
Mike DuHaime: Christie 'wasn't expecting' veep nod
Longtime Chris Christie adviser Mike DuHaime sits…
27 min
Bill Kristol to Democrats: Don't underestimate ...
Weekly Standard founder Bill Kristol sits down wi…
56 min
Chuck D takes on Rudy G
Public Enemy frontman Chuck D sits down with Glen…
39 min
Ted Cruz talks: He's not ready to endorse ... yet
Texas senator and former 2016 hopeful Ted Cruz si…
58 min
Playbook passes the torch
The new Playbook authors Anna Palmer and Jake She…
43 min
Nate Silver: Primary whiff made me humbler, sma...
Statistician and fivethirtyeight.com founder Nate…
70 min
Sheriff Joe Arpaio, Trump’s political godfather
Maricopa County Sheriff Joe Arpaio sits down with…
77 min
Jeff Roe: Allergy to analytics could be fatal f...
Ted Cruz strategist Jeff Roe and Glenn Thrush get…
82 min
Joe Scarborough dishes on Donald Trump, Jeff Zu...
'Morning Joe' host Joe Scarborough sits down with…
54 min
Gary Johnson on Zen and the art of Trump trolling
Libertarian presidential candidate Gary Johnson s…
55 min
Jeff Sessions to GOP: Adapt to Trump or die
Alabama Senator Jeff Sessions sits down with Glen…
56 min
Paul Ryan: Trump could win, but I’m not ‘bettin...
House Speaker Paul Ryan sits down with Glenn Thru…
36 min
Mark Salter on Trump: 'I think he could come ap...
Former top John McCain aide and one of the most p…
52 min
Larry Wilmore is not joking around
Comedian and 2016 White House Correspondents' Din…
46 min
Roger Stone on Trump campaign: 'You don't manag...
Republican political adviser Roger Stone sits dow…
66 min
Kirsten Gillibrand's tearful plea to Bernie: Gi...
Senator Kirsten Gillibrand of New York, a passion…
55 min
Tim Miller: ‘Hillary would beat him from jail’
Republican strategist Tim Miller tells Glenn Thru…
53 min
Hillary Clinton has had enough of Bernie Sanders
Hillary Clinton sits down with Glenn Thrush follo…
58 min
Alan Gross on Bernie Sanders, 'failure' of soci...
Former Cuban prisoner Alan Gross sits down with G…
47 min
Gen. Michael Hayden: Hillary Clinton second cho...
Former CIA Director Michael Hayden sits down with…
54 min
Jill Abramson on NYT email stories: 'Why is th...
Jill Abramson, the first woman editor of the New …
64 min
Joel Benenson: No path for Donald Trump in Nove...
Pollster Joel Benenson tells Glenn Thrush that Do…
50 min
Sanders strategist Tad Devine: Losing Nevada wa...
Bernie Sanders' senior advisor Tad Devine sits do…
48 min
Former top Ted Cruz adviser: Conservatives won'...
Rick Tyler sits down with Glenn Thrush to discuss…
41 min
David Plouffe: Hillary Clinton has 98% chance o...
Former Obama political strategist and UBER SVP Da…
56 min
Ben Carson: Obama was ‘raised white’
Dr. Ben Carson sits down with Glenn Thrush to dis…
34 min
Rev. Al Sharpton: Donald Trump is the white Don...
Rev. Al Sharpton talks with Glenn Thrush about wh…
37 min
'The Big Short' director on supporting Bernie S...
'The Big Short' director Adam McKay sits down wit…
24 min
Jeb goes after Marco: 'He's never been challeng...
Governor Jeb Bush and Glenn Thrush discuss the 20…
35 min
Martin O'Malley insists he won't play Iowa king...
Governor Martin O'Malley sits down with POLITICO'…
35 min
Glenn Thrush interviews President Obama on Iowa...
In an Oval Office interview for POLITICO's Off Me…
39 min
Hugh Hewitt gives Donald Trump 25 percent chanc...
Radio talk show host Hugh Hewitt sits down with G…
48 min
George Pataki: The underdog's take
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Th…
26 min
Axe on Hillary: I would have nixed paid speeche...
Glenn Thrush with David Axelrod, author of 'Belie…
27 min
Nicolle Wallace's advice to Carly Fiorina: Hand...
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Th…
34 min
Paul Ryan's advice to Hillary: Figure out who y...
POLITICO's Chief Political Correspondent Glenn Th…
36 min
50 Shades of Barney Frank
POLITICO's chief political correspondent Glenn Th…
41 min