The Church Lobby

(Formerly Can This Work In a Small Church?)

Karl Vaters interviews church leaders about the important issues of faith and ministry.

It's called The Church Lobby because:

  • The church lobby is where the church meets and does ministry.
  • The church lobby moves conversations from the stage to the floor.
  • The church lobby is a good place to take the temperature of a church’s health.

Karl Vaters is the author of several books, including Small Church Essentials and The Grasshopper Myth. Formerly known as Can This Work In a Small Church?, this podcast primarily looks at church leadership from a small church perspective.

Religion & Spirituality
Ep 040: How Excellence Looks Different In Small...
Trying to imitate a big church is lame. Yes, lame. There's a better way forward.
40 min
Ep 039: Polycentric Leadership: Church as a Dis...
Karl Vaters interviews Dan White Jr.. the coauthor (w JR Woodward) of The Church as Movement: Starting and Sustaining Missional-Incarnational Communities.
63 min
Introducing The Church Lobby Podcast! (A Bonus ...
Welcome to the first episode of The Church Lobby: Conversations on Faith & Ministry.
15 min
Our Final CTWIASC Podcast! And What’s Next (Spe...
Yes, you read that title right. This is the last episode of “Can This Work in a Small Church?”
15 min
Ep 038: A Discipleship Strategy Small Churches ...
Darrell and Karl talk about the importance of discipleship in the life of the church – and as a central role in our calling as pastors.
50 min
Ep 037: Seculosity: Ministry In The Era Of Secu...
Karl Vaters interviews David Zahl, author of Seculosity: How Career, Parenting, Technology, Food, Politics, and Romance Became Our New Religion and What to Do about It.
57 min
Ep 036: Why Proximity and Longevity Matter in P...
Karl interviews Alan Briggs, a pastor, the author of Staying is the New Going, the host of the Right Side Up Leadership podcast and
43 min
Ep 035: Should You Start a Podcast? And Positiv...
Karl Vaters interviews Aron Utecht, a pastor and the host of the Good Ideas for Churches podcast
45 min
Ep 034: Technology, Ministry, and Keeping Peopl...
Church Growth Movement, technology and how it has affected the way we approach pastoring
45 min
Ep 033: Leveraging the Strengths of Your Small ...
Ron Klassen talks about seeing the unique nature of the small church, not as a problem to be solved, but as a strength to leverage.
48 min
Ep 032: Teaching the Bible In Your Context, wit...
Karl and Matt talk about how to become better Bible teachers, whether online or in person.
56 min
Ep 031: How To Find The Right Pastor/Church Fit...
Can we slow down the revolving door for churches and pastors?
51 min
Ep 030: How Fixing the World Is Killing the Chu...
Is the church called to separate ourselves from the world? Change it? Fix it? Or something else entirely?
50 min
Ep 029: When “Can’t Miss” Church Growth Answer...
An interview about what to do when answers don't work as promised, and refocusing on the essentials.
56 min
Ep 028: Ending Human Trafficking, with Dr. Sand...
Healthy churches are uniquely positioned to help prevent human trafficking
56 min
Ep 027: The Unexpected Origins of the Church Gr...
The origins of church growth are far different than what most of us have been taught recently, according to Dr. McIntosh.
48 min
Ep 026: Destigmatizing the "M" Word (Marketing)...
An interview with Austin Savage about the role of marketing in church leadership.
45 min
Ep 025: Why Your Church Needs A Website And Soc...
In a small church, a Facebook page should be enough of an online presence, right? Wrong.
44 min
Ep 024: Rural Church Rescue, with Jon Sanders
Jon and Karl talk about how Jon used the principles he learned as a firefighter to help churches better understand how to do ministry that matters.
50 min
Ep 023: A Christian's Guide To The Gender Revol...
Karl and Dr. Gil address issues of concern to pastors, and provide a dialogue on how to approach varied sex/gender concerns in congregants and beyond.
65 min
Ep 022: Helping Men Become More Intentional Dad...
Karl Vaters interviews Jeff Hamilton, of Dad Academy, about helping men become the dad they want to be.
58 min
Bonus: Introducing the Bible-Reading Coach Podcast
This time you'll finish
16 min
Ep 021: Church Planting For Everyone, with Peyt...
44 min
Ep 020: Online and In-Person Worship, with Jaso...
49 min
Ep 019: Current Issues in Church Law & Tax, wit...
Karl Vaters interviews Matt Branaugh about the important subjects of law, tax and finances in the church.
50 min
Ep 018: The Small Church In God's Mission, with...
Karl Vaters interviews Bob Roberts Jr., a pastor, author, global strategist and more.
54 min
Ep 017: Pastoral Transition with Gary Garcia
Gary is back! This time we talk about Pastoral Transition from a unique perspective.
53 min
Ep 016: Pastoral Longevity and Ministry Partner...
Karl Vaters interviews Gary Garcia about keeping fresh and working together well for the long haul.
40 min
Ep 015: Interim Pastors, with Tom Harris
46 min
Ep 014: Long Term Pastorates, with Rich Brown
Karl Vaters interviews Rich Brown on the importance of long-term pastorates.
40 min
Ep 013: Small Churches In Denominational Leader...
Karl Vaters interviews Matt Henslee about the importance of having small church representation in denominational leadership.
29 min
Ep 012: Small Church Pastor Personality Types, ...
27 min
Ep 011: Trauma, Brain Science, and Ministry, wi...
Karl talks with Lori Andrews, Ed.D. about trauma, its effect on the brain, and how to use this information as we lead through challenging times.
41 min
Ep 010: Writing For Ministry, with Drew Dyck
Join Karl as he talks with Drew Dyck about how to effectively write for ministry.
40 min
Ep 009: First Impressions, with Greg Atkinson
Greg Atkinson is one the world’s leading voices in First Impressions for churches.
46 min
Ep 008: Recovering & Thriving In the Post-Pande...
In this two-part series, Karl Vaters shares several lessons about responding, recovering and thriving through a challenging season.
28 min
Ep 007: Recovering & Thriving In the Post-Pande...
In this two-part series, Karl Vaters shares several lessons about responding, recovering and thriving through a challenging season.
30 min
Ep 006: Video Ministry Using Devices You Alread...
An interview with Craig Forrest, who’s spent decades shooting and editing film and video for ministries and network TV.
35 min
Ep. 005: Small Church Conferences
What big church conferences can do to include the needs and voices of small church leaders
67 min
Ep 004: Decision Fatigue, with Ira Antoine
“What is decision fatigue? Why are we facing it? And what can we do about it?”
57 min
Ep. 003: Can a Pastor Change the Culture of a S...
26 min
Ep 002: Making a Positive Impact on Social Medi...
Hope for how we can be peacemakers and reconcilers in our online behavior.
60 min
Ep 001: Can A Small Church Be An Effective Church?
Karl answers another small church question...
39 min
EP 000: Introducing Can This Work in a Small Ch...
Karl Vaters introduces his new podcast!
3 min